Sodium Usniate????

[gopro]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Thanks both.

I think I speak for Rob as well when I say...TP, you are welcome!

 

[hardHITer001]

Well, aren???t I the rude one?

Yes, gentlemen. Thank you!

I placed yet another order to 1fast400. Mike is making a small fortune off me! I'll keep you posted on the results when my SU comes in.

p.s. The Monster Combo is going great! My weight is up 7lbs in 1 week! Some of that is sure to be water retention. But I???m going to check my BF on Saturday and hopefully there will be a lean mass gain as well.

 

[gopro]

Is the SU coming in capsules? What mg amounts?

 

[hardHITer001]

100mg caps.

I thought I might start with 200mg twice a day. Then add a third dose. Then gradually increase the dosage every 2-3 days.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by hardHITer001
100mg caps.

I thought I might start with 200mg twice a day. Then add a third dose. Then gradually increase the dosage every 2-3 days.

Either that or 100 mg 3 x per day, then start to add.

 

[hardHITer001]

.I guess I could go with many options. I just thought I would take it in conjunction with my ECA and initially I will only take 2 doses of ECA until I can tolerate a 3rd dose with out keeping me up at night.

I guess I could still take a 3rd dose of SU with out the ECA in the afternoon

 

[ZECH]

Get ready for night sweats!

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by hardHITer001
.I guess I could go with many options. I just thought I would take it in conjunction with my ECA and initially I will only take 2 doses of ECA until I can tolerate a 3rd dose with out keeping me up at night.

I guess I could still take a 3rd dose of SU with out the ECA in the afternoon

Well, all I was saying was that I recommend that you start with single doses of only 100 mg each...especially with ECA. Best to start low, check your tolerance and then go up slowly. Everyone reacts differently so be careful.

 

[Twin Peak]

And whats the update on the SU? Come on HH, where is ya?

 

[hardHITer001]

Just getting started with the SU, so no real info yet. But I can already tell that combined with the ECA and Yohimbine my body temp is up. I just feel kind of sweaty all day.

 

[kuso]

Keep us up to date on how you feel etc mate

You should even start yourself a journal

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by hardHITer001
Just getting started with the SU, so no real info yet. But I can already tell that combined with the ECA and Yohimbine my body temp is up. I just feel kind of sweaty all day.

ECA, Yohimbe, SU...I'm sweating just writing it!

 

[cornfed]

Well where the fuq are people finding sodium usinate? I can't get anyone to carry/order or even find any SU these days.

 

[Twin Peak]

Try 1fast400.com

 

[kuso]

Thats one of the only places I`ve heard that sell it.

 

[hardHITer001]

I got mine at 1fast400........great prices, great service!

 

[hardHITer001]

Im up to 600mg SU a day split in three doses. THe only side effect I have noticed is about an hour after I take it I get sweaty. Its not like sweat is poring off me but just kind of a hot sticky feeling.

I seem to be "leaning up" pretty quickly. I know some of it was water retention from the monster combo. I'll let you know what my weight/BF test say this weekend.

What is a safe max daily dose of SU?

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by hardHITer001
Im up to 600mg SU a day split in three doses. THe only side effect I have noticed is about an hour after I take it I get sweaty. Its not like sweat is poring off me but just kind of a hot sticky feeling.

I seem to be "leaning up" pretty quickly. I know some of it was water retention from the monster combo. I'll let you know what my weight/BF test say this weekend.

What is a safe max daily dose of SU?

Sounds good so far. There is NO max daily dose b/c that hasn't been tested. Each person has different tolerance levels to these sort of products. Some people can only use 20 mcg of clen, while others can use 200 mcg or more! I think its safe to say that 1200 mg of SU is as high as anyone should go..and even that is very very high! I can't go past 600-800 myself!

 

[Robboe]

In hindsight of my own use, don't exceed 1g. Although that was UA i was using, not SU.

 

[hardHITer001]

This will be my second full day of 200mgs every four hours.

I use every for hours because I have "normal" days that I must take my last ECA dose about 2-3 pm so I can sleep at night. But I have other days that last 18-22 hours, then somewhere I wake at Noon and I???m in bed again at 9pm. (I have an unusual job)
So as you can see some "days" will have a much higher dose than others.

Tomorrow I will go to 700 for 2 days then 800, 900 and top out at 1000. Next week

 

[gopro]

Good luck. STAY HEALTHY!

 

[hardHITer001]

Just some follow up:

I have found that 600mgs a day (200mg x 3 doses) is all I can seem to handle. I tried going to 700 using 300mgs on my first dose of the day but I felt like shit!
As gopro mentioned: It does seem to have a tendency for me to get pissed pretty easy. So I???m going to stick with 600 for duration of my ECA cycle.
When I start again (after my next ph cycle) I may try to go higher again, when it???s closer to show time.

Just FYI

 

[Twin Peak]

Thanks, interesting stuff. I am going to try it for 2 weeks after the new year and just before my next PH cycle.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by hardHITer001
Just some follow up:

I have found that 600mgs a day (200mg x 3 doses) is all I can seem to handle. I tried going to 700 using 300mgs on my first dose of the day but I felt like shit!
As gopro mentioned: It does seem to have a tendency for me to get pissed pretty easy. So I???m going to stick with 600 for duration of my ECA cycle.
When I start again (after my next ph cycle) I may try to go higher again, when it???s closer to show time.

Just FYI

Thanks for keeping us posted. Interesting that it has the same effect on you...irritability...as it does me. 600 mg is as high as I can go, especially along with other thermogenics. I plan on using it for my next show as well.

 

[crackerjack414]

ok i have a few questions
1 does your macro nut intake change like dnp say50%carbs 30% protein 20%fat.
2 d u still need the fructose and everything like dnp?
3 are the carb crazings like dnp?
4how long can i stay on it a simple 12day cylcle
5 do i get the same type of water retention and anabolic rebound from it like dnp?

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by crackerjack414
ok i have a few questions
1 does your macro nut intake change like dnp say50%carbs 30% protein 20%fat.
2 d u still need the fructose and everything like dnp?
3 are the carb crazings like dnp?
4how long can i stay on it a simple 12day cylcle
5 do i get the same type of water retention and anabolic rebound from it like dnp?

You will not get any of the same effects as DNP would give. I would estimate that SU is about 20% as effective as DNP. The only side effect I got was massive irritability and a loss of strength in the gym which was remedied with creatine and ribose. It does work well when combined with thermogenics.

 

[crackerjack414]

thanks for the info, i remember dan duchaine writing a bit about the stuff

 

[cornfed]

Here's another angle I've been wondering about...
Given that increased body temp for prolonged periods can lower sperm count, has anyone seen any info in regard to SU and this?

did a 15day stint over christmas break and managed to lose a couple even w/ a horrible diet...

1200-1500mg/day (300x4, 400x4 & 300x1)
w/ no negs other than a waking up sweating a few times (my tolerance to substances is rather strange I guess)

 

[Twin Peak]

I started over the holidays too.

I got up to 500mg on the 4th day and started to get sick. Came down with a stuffy nose. I don't know if it was related. The stuffiness stick lingers so I think not. I'll prolly finish the bottle at some point, but I am not buying more until I finish and see what happens.

 

[cornfed]

I'd say not to take it longer than 14days, I developed too high a tolerance for it by then. Good luck and sorry bout the cold.

NOTE to self: do NOT mix sodium usinate in high dosages w/ high alcohol consumption