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Originally posted by Var
I think one thing we should NOT lose sight of is that Babsie wasnt the only one doing this. We've all seen lots of questionable Syntrax threads (I think many were about Nectar) from other members (some well respected) here.
Yes, but I bet if asked, they wouldn't lie about and openly admit it ;)
 
Eh... just learn not to take one person's opinion or advice as gospel. For that matter, dont use one source for your information - use various bulletin boards, various books, and just talk to people at your gym. Even if you're given 'bad' information by a malevolent or misinformed person, it'll have a minimal impact because you've been sure to gather a variety of sources before making a decision. You will have educated yourself as to why and how a certain supplement works, not just "ITS SECRET RUSSIAN KGB POWDER THAT MAEKS U HUGE DUED!!!1."

If you're careful, it should be near impossible for one shady persons information to steer you wrong, since you'll have a solid foundation based on a myriad of sources that their misleading information can't crack.
 
Originally posted by Jodi
Yes, but I bet if asked, they wouldn't lie about and openly admit it ;)

This is NOT the point in my mind Jodi. A search on Nectar reveals many interesting posts. From my point of view, the first post in such a thread should say something like, "Syntrax hooked me up with some free stuff and asked me to post my feedback". Otherwise, its shady!!!
 
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Well, its his board.

And I certainly hope you don't think he was defending me. He wouldn't do that.



TP you are the man............and you need do defense :)
 
Originally posted by Monolith
Eh... just learn not to take one person's opinion or advice as gospel. For that matter, dont use one source for your information - use various bulletin boards, various books, and just talk to people at your gym. Even if you're given 'bad' information by a malevolent or misinformed person, it'll have a minimal impact because you've been sure to gather a variety of sources before making a decision. You will have educated yourself as to why and how a certain supplement works, not just "ITS SECRET RUSSIAN KGB POWDER THAT MAEKS U HUGE DUED!!!1."

If you're careful, it should be near impossible for one shady persons information to steer you wrong, since you'll have a solid foundation based on a myriad of sources that their misleading information can't crack.

Agreed! And this is definitely what I do. My concern is the newb's who come on the board and read posts from someone with a high post count preaching the benefits of supplement X
 
i think that babsie was the most blatant, and deceitful one doing this. although there were other people posting about syntrax or nectar ( i'd say that this adverts were successful as i now want to give nectar a try - anyone know where i can score a free sample?) these other people were not posting their opinions over and over in an endless stream.

i mean, did this woman actually have a job? other than pimping Nectar? I mean she had 4000 + posts! 4000+ ! and it's not as if she was a mod or anything.

Her behavior calls into question EVERYTHING that she said, everything that she did and everythign that she said that she did! it seems to me that all her other posts were simply a set up for her posts about syntrax.

And many of her posts was bad advice or stolen from some other website or stolen from another person then she tried to pass off as being her own.

you can be against steroids all you want ( this is not the specific "you" but the general "you" so I am not talking to anyone in particular ), but her stance seemed to be ' steroids are bad " then she would come back with a product placement. so her goal seems to have been to downpplay the importance of steroids while over playing the importance of supplements in general but specifically syntrax supplements.

Her last post about Anabolic Steroid , women and what they can and can't do was particular amusing although she did n't intend it to be funny. unintentional humor is the best. the entire article was off. these articles mean well but fitness competitors DO take anabolics. in the beginning most took anavar or some other weaker steroid. the contention that fitness athletes don't resort to anabolics or that anabolics don't do any of the listed thing is absurd.

I am not for people being handed steroids upon entering a gym or when assigned a workout routine. but articles like that do not help the debate.

so yes, babsie was indeed the only one who passive- aggressively went all out for syntrax and nectar. and when confronted, became even more so.

she then altered her mode of attack, changed her writing style ( she now writes as if she is from the inner city or in a hip hop style - everyone is a 'bro' or "man" or " brother" . ) i am waiting for her to start using "buddy"!.

someone over at the other board has already noticed that she is a complete crock of shit- she cut and pasted an entire article onone prohomone.which she then tried to pass off as being her own thoughts. Another person subsequently posted the real source of the information and in fact that the information was for an entirely different prohomone!
it's enough to make you cringe when you see this happening.

Syntrax could not have picked a worse person to hire. But she has no sense of shame at all, in fact she has learned from her experience over here and has taken it elsewhere. so in fact, we have helped her by pointing out her mistakes.

HEY SYNTRAX- I WANT MY CUT! :D
 
bABSIE'S BOARD

a person could tell that babsie thought that this was her board. in my initial encounter with her, she essentially told me to stop coming back. that this was her board. Not in those exact words yet the intention was clear.
that is the problem with people who are allowed to post non stop AND are never checked or held accountable for their actions. She had a high post count and it seemed as if she could say and do whatever she wanted. few ever pointed out her errors in any significant way. So she became to view this board as her own personal space. When she was confronted, she ripped the person a new one !

this was what was unique and different about Babsie- she could not tolerate anyone disagreeing with her. she then accused the other person of doing exactly that as well. It was like talking to a 4 year old.

the distinction is very important; i have disagreed with Jodi ( about the definitino of food in one instance and something else in another ). neither one of us went for the other's jugular in our argument. and it ended and we sometimes now joke about it.

these people react and respond with innapropriate violence and aggression out of proportion to the event. I have constantly wondered about these people's personalities; whether it works for them in their life. the constant threatening behavior and then having to back it up. their cortisol levels must be sky high!

Seems to me to be a punch of peacocks flashing their feathers.
 
other board

i dont' wish to upset Prince by posting the other board name on this thread. if you wish for it, you can pm me.
 
Marcus, you wouldnt happen to be one of those kinds of people that beats a dead horse would you? :p

:lol:

You brought up alot of good points and made alot of good statements though. For that I'm sure alot of members are thankful. That said, could we bury the damn horse already? :p
 
Originally posted by Eggs
Marcus, you wouldnt happen to be one of those kinds of people that beats a dead horse would you? :p

:lol:

You brought up alot of good points and made alot of good statements though. For that I'm sure alot of members are thankful. That said, could we bury the damn horse already? :p

lol
:D
 
Originally posted by Var
I think one thing we should NOT lose sight of is that Babsie wasnt the only one doing this. We've all seen lots of questionable Syntrax threads (I think many were about Nectar) from other members (some well respected) here.

Hell, I've bumped Nectar threads, its good stuff, especially the sour apple. Its just way too pricey.

That said, there are probably other people (shills/trolls) from other companies that we should feret out.

Those who have seen Babs on other boards, please PM me the links.

I am starting to think that "she" was way more than just receiving free product.
 
Originally posted by MarcusMaximus
i think that babsie was the most blatant, and deceitful one doing this. although there were other people posting about syntrax or nectar ( i'd say that this adverts were successful as i now want to give nectar a try - anyone know where i can score a free sample?) these other people were not posting their opinions over and over in an endless stream.

i mean, did this woman actually have a job? other than pimping Nectar? I mean she had 4000 + posts! 4000+ ! and it's not as if she was a mod or anything.

Her behavior calls into question EVERYTHING that she said, everything that she did and everythign that she said that she did! it seems to me that all her other posts were simply a set up for her posts about syntrax.

And many of her posts was bad advice or stolen from some other website or stolen from another person then she tried to pass off as being her own.

you can be against steroids all you want ( this is not the specific "you" but the general "you" so I am not talking to anyone in particular ), but her stance seemed to be ' steroids are bad " then she would come back with a product placement. so her goal seems to have been to downpplay the importance of steroids while over playing the importance of supplements in general but specifically syntrax supplements.

Her last post about Anabolic Steroid , women and what they can and can't do was particular amusing although she did n't intend it to be funny. unintentional humor is the best. the entire article was off. these articles mean well but fitness competitors DO take anabolics. in the beginning most took anavar or some other weaker steroid. the contention that fitness athletes don't resort to anabolics or that anabolics don't do any of the listed thing is absurd.

I am not for people being handed steroids upon entering a gym or when assigned a workout routine. but articles like that do not help the debate.

so yes, babsie was indeed the only one who passive- aggressively went all out for syntrax and nectar. and when confronted, became even more so.

she then altered her mode of attack, changed her writing style ( she now writes as if she is from the inner city or in a hip hop style - everyone is a 'bro' or "man" or " brother" . ) i am waiting for her to start using "buddy"!.

someone over at the other board has already noticed that she is a complete crock of shit- she cut and pasted an entire article onone prohomone.which she then tried to pass off as being her own thoughts. Another person subsequently posted the real source of the information and in fact that the information was for an entirely different prohomone!
it's enough to make you cringe when you see this happening.

Syntrax could not have picked a worse person to hire. But she has no sense of shame at all, in fact she has learned from her experience over here and has taken it elsewhere. so in fact, we have helped her by pointing out her mistakes.

HEY SYNTRAX- I WANT MY CUT! :D

I linked the other thread over at Avant, and once of the first comments someone made was that "Babs" sounded like a man trying to write like a woman.
 
Re: bABSIE'S BOARD

Originally posted by MarcusMaximus
a person could tell that babsie thought that this was her board. in my initial encounter with her, she essentially told me to stop coming back. that this was her board. Not in those exact words yet the intention was clear.
that is the problem with people who are allowed to post non stop AND are never checked or held accountable for their actions. She had a high post count and it seemed as if she could say and do whatever she wanted. few ever pointed out her errors in any significant way. So she became to view this board as her own personal space. When she was confronted, she ripped the person a new one !

this was what was unique and different about Babsie- she could not tolerate anyone disagreeing with her. she then accused the other person of doing exactly that as well. It was like talking to a 4 year old.

the distinction is very important; i have disagreed with Jodi ( about the definitino of food in one instance and something else in another ). neither one of us went for the other's jugular in our argument. and it ended and we sometimes now joke about it.

these people react and respond with innapropriate violence and aggression out of proportion to the event. I have constantly wondered about these people's personalities; whether it works for them in their life. the constant threatening behavior and then having to back it up. their cortisol levels must be sky high!

Seems to me to be a punch of peacocks flashing their feathers.

Such people need to be confronted; and checked.

We had several encounters before this one, and she always backed down and tried to smooth it over with "hon".
 
Oh, btw, I have an affiliation with Avant Labs.
 
Originally posted by Twin Peak
I am starting to think that "she" was way more than just receiving free product.

If this is the case then we definitely shouldnt just bury it for sure. What makes you think this TP, besides the fact that she was way more vehement in her denial than she should have been regarding a free product.
 
I too should come clean here I guess....I`m rather ashamed.....:o

While giving out advice left right and center in the Sexual Health forum, I never let it be known I was actually representing, and sponsored by...

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Re: Re: bABSIE'S BOARD

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Such people need to be confronted; and checked.

We had several encounters before this one, and she always backed down and tried to smooth it over with "hon".
don't i know it. she does this all the time. she is now doing it with mousie. makes a back handed comment about what someone else meant about mousie's boyfriend then adds " hon"... in the next post to patch things up.
 
Originally posted by kuso
I too should come clean here I guess....I`m rather ashamed.....:o

While giving out advice left right and center in the Sexual Health forum, I never let it be known I was actually representing, and sponsored by...

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:grin: :p

hey, i loaned those to you, and if you can't use them, i wnat them back!!!
:D
 
Originally posted by kuso
I too should come clean here I guess....I`m rather ashamed.....:o

While giving out advice left right and center in the Sexual Health forum, I never let it be known I was actually representing, and sponsored by...

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Yes Kuso, you should have told us... we would never have bought those products if we knew they misrepresented the size so badly. I mean, most of us couldnt fit one of those things over our little toe!

I'm glad they fit you just perfectly though!

:grin:
 
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Originally posted by Twin Peak
I linked the other thread over at Avant, and once of the first comments someone made was that "Babs" sounded like a man trying to write like a woman.

maybe her name should be Pat.
:D
 
Originally posted by Eggs
If this is the case then we definitely shouldnt just bury it for sure. What makes you think this TP, besides the fact that she was way more vehement in her denial than she should have been regarding a free product.

The fact that she is on another board with a different writing style is a clue.

Add to that how she left here, in here journal, very upset -- distraught even, due to personal issues -- then hourse later, is posting on another board about Syntrax all over again.
 
Yes, that does seem indicative that there is more to the situation than meets the eye. It really calls the endometriosis (sp?) and what not into question... makes it seem nothing more than a tool to latch on to people.

Hrm..
 
ao she stole another person's identity as well. She took the name Big Swole. it wasn't even her name to take. I know that Big Swole is Babsie as she is over there talking about her endometriosis. I don't doubt that she has endo but her use of it in this regard is something else!
as for her 'emotional distress" them be crocodile tears. Just something to garner more sympathy from naive people.

its crazy. click on her profile, then click, search all posts by this member and you will see how see talks about her endometriosis . its' all the same ..

you will find her under " what sort of creatine " in the supplement section.
 
Definitely more than meets the eye.
 
So, does Babsie work for Syntrax or what? I first met her at the Sytnrax board and she was Gung-Ho Syntrax, but I didn't think she worked for them.

I'm a Syntrax supporter but I don't work for them or any other company for that matter. If someone does work for a supp.company it would the only ethical thing to do by listing the affiliation.
 
Perhaps Prince should address this issue instead of attempting to regulate the thoughts of PAYING members who engage in a bit of fun and sarcasm.

Just a thought.
 
Originally posted by Sir Foxx
So, does Babsie work for Syntrax or what? I first met her at the Sytnrax board and she was Gung-Ho Syntrax, but I didn't think she worked for them.

I'm a Syntrax supporter but I don't work for them or any other company for that matter. If someone does work for a supp.company it would the only ethical thing to do by listing the affiliation.

i think that babsie is one of those people like the guy in the Wendy's commercials. you knw, if you haven't seen it, the guy runs around with a bullhorn promoting wendy's food items, he's at the mall yelling through a bullhorn to get people to try the salad. people yell up . do you work for Wendy's or something?" and he says " no but i want to!"
this scenario would be the most charitable. so she's just a delusional nitwit blowhard in that case. a fred flintstone type of character whose personality, in time turns off everyone she meets. it takes a while for people to recognize it but there she is. She was always extended the benefit of the doubt due to her, being female, the picture in her profile is kind of cute if not good looking, and she has endo. for many people, its hard to believe that such a person could be evil. and i think that she is.

if syntrax IS paying her, then the owner of the company is pretty stupid as it was a poor choice.
 
Originally posted by topolo
Perhaps Prince should address this issue instead of attempting to regulate the thoughts of PAYING members who engage in a bit of fun and sarcasm.

Just a thought.

What are you talking about?
 
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