well i have a friend who stacked it and he was very impressed with the results. I can get the masteron from him and the d bol i would just buy alone. he did mention the d bol is a water retainer and masteron is just the opposite, but i am trying to get away from the bloated look and still gain strength. I have a fairly stalky physique, but just want to get rid of the outer layer that is sitting on the muscle. he also said that masteron is a pro testosterone and an anti estrogen so it keeps the so called bitch tits from forming. I am really trying to get under 200 but with a lot more definition without losing the muscle. if there is something else that you can recomend then please share. i am fairly new to all this, I have used about every over the counter supplement of some kind there is but never really went anabolic.