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Stealing $100 vs $3,000,000,000
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Seems like Roy got a very raw deal.
At least now Roy will get 3 warm meals and full health care benefits from now...
it has always been this way, white collar crime is more acceptable and the punishment is much less than blue collar crime, its stupid because white collar crime affects 100's to 1,000's of people (such as your example) and blue collar crimes typically only affect 1 or maybe a few people, our justice system rocks!
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the main difference i see is that the 100$ was stolen to support a drug habit....
You don't put yourself in the homeless guy's situation and there shouldn't be a problem.
Great comparison of foul justice, Minimal.
While, I was reading about that white collar thief only getting 3 yrs for his thievery of billions. And the homeless guy getting 15 yrs. for stealing a hundred, then turned himself in because he felt guilty.
But, what's really messed up, is the guy getting 20 yrs. for stealing a buck!
Then I remembered, all these prisons being built are for the poor. Not for a well off thief who steals billions.
In Amerika, greed and corruption get rewarded, while the poor get the shit end of the stick!
While, I was reading about that white collar thief only getting 3 yrs for his thievery of billions. And the homeless guy getting 15 yrs. for stealing a hundred, then turned himself in because he felt guilty.
But, what's really messed up, is the guy getting 20 yrs. for stealing a buck!
Then I remembered, all these prisons being built are for the poor. Not for a well off thief who steals billions.
In Amerika, greed and corruption get rewarded, while the poor get the shit end of the stick!
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It's not the situation but the outcome of having been in that situation.
White collar guy got zip.
Blue collar (or no collar) guy got hammered.
That's a problem, imo.
Your a fuckin tool.
How do you know the white guy doesnt have a drug habbit?
Why is a drug habbit different than a "spend 10,000 dollars on a boat with hookers" habit?
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because the article didn't say what the white collar crime amount was used for......so it's not relevant with the information provided.....
I agree that this is messed up. Very very messed up. But I want to point something out.
These are two different states and two different legal systems. These sentences were made completely independent of each other. So, I am curious; which state are you more frustrated with: Virginia for only giving the white-collar crime 3 years or Louisiana for giving the homeless man 15 years?
I suspect that you all are more frustrated with Virginia. My bet is that you all wouldn't give two shits about the homeless man if his story wasn't cleverly used as a contrast to the little time that the white-collar criminal received.
These are two different states and two different legal systems. These sentences were made completely independent of each other. So, I am curious; which state are you more frustrated with: Virginia for only giving the white-collar crime 3 years or Louisiana for giving the homeless man 15 years?
I suspect that you all are more frustrated with Virginia. My bet is that you all wouldn't give two shits about the homeless man if his story wasn't cleverly used as a contrast to the little time that the white-collar criminal received.
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That contrast is the hook, but I'm still curious how a man trying to recover from drug addiction and who showed some remorse for his wrongdoing was given 15 years in prison.
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Not sure that adds up to fifteen years for Roy, though.
Google offered this...
KILLEEN (May 19, 2011)—Two Killeen women who dressed as men and robbed a Killeen bank were sentenced in Waco’s federal court Wednesday to federal prison time.
Amber D. Waters, 24, and Jalyssa S. Bradley, 20, pleaded guilty in March in Waco's federal district court to charges stemming from the Dec. 22, 2010 robbery of the First National Bank Texas.
Waters was sentence to 32 months for bank robbery and 84 months for using a firearm in commission of felony, ordered to pay a $1,000 fine, $2,635 in restitution and a $100 special assessment to the court.
Bradley was sentenced to 21 months for bank robbery and 84 months for using a commission of a firearm, plus ordered to pay a $1,000 fine, $2,635 in restitution and a $100 special assessment to the court.
More @ Two Women Sentenced For Robbing Local Bank
Less than ten and she used a firearm. I'd love to see his rap sheet.
Yeah, it may be he got a raw deal, we don't know what his priors look like.
The judge seems to have been well within his rights to sentence him to 15 years. There has to be something else going on though. Like curt james/vortex said, I'd love to see his rap sheet.
Also, I'd like to point out that people always complain about the law. This particular Louisiana bank robbery statute was created by the Louisiana legislature, which represents the people. In theory, if Louisianans don't like this law or its application, they can change it through the democratic process.
In theory, if we don't like how little time white-collar criminals can be sentenced to, we can change that through Congress.
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so are you a tool that can't read? the article says nothing about supporting a drug habit. the homeless man said he needed the money to stay in detox...
This is really a case of apples and oranges. Louisiana law versus Federal law. An unsophisticated homeless man who immediately waived his 5th Amendment rights, and a highly sophisticated white-collar criminal, presumably with a team of lawyers.
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not really if you steal under 40 or 50 billion the sentance is the same thats why most ceo's steal under that amount .
Seems like Roy got a very raw deal.
just a few months back a investor stole 300 million so he got only 4 years in prison strange.but i always say if your going to steal, steal bigg. Andon a side note he's black and homeless. people don't have much use for them
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So, what you steal something for is more relevant than how much you stole in your opinion?
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what is this "tool" term mean?
since when do poor people have to start paying for detox?.....you go to the hospital and say you want detox and they simply send you and the taxpayers foot the bill......he WANTED to get arrested it appears then for the long term treatment.....i wish the gentleman the best in his recovery....
so now we have gone from "I go by whats in the articel bla bla.." to "I assume that is what he was gonna do.." . which one is it?
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but you're also assuming that there isn't much more to the story (either story of course) than what's been printed......
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When you assault someone, you'll get a stiffer sentence if you assaulted the person because you didn't like their race. The corollary being that if you beat someone up for no particular reason, you'll get a lesser sentence.
So apparently the reason does matter.
bingo. and when you rob a bank, you have a gun, or atleast say you have a gun. otherwise the tellers would just say, "fuck you". ANY crime committed "with the use of a firearm" is considered a WAY bigger deal.
plus, i bet the homeless guy has been in trouble ALOT. that's one of the main reasons you become homeless.
3 hots and a cot!
way to avoid a question..
Where do I assume anything? all I did was call you out on the fact that you claimed to be going by the articel when the truth was that the article never said anything about supporting a crack habit.
did you maybe not read the whole 15 lines and then got caught bs-ing? it's ok, it happens to all of us..
thats not an entirely correct statement. It is true in cases classified as hate-crimes yes but if we get into it over a parking spot it's no different than if we fight over a female.
some cases it matters yes but generally motive is not of primary concern in criminal cases (does not need to be established or proven)
in this case, you are wrong, it really would not matter what he stole it for.
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people don't go to detox for crack (which i never stated which drug, only that the article said "detox")it's out of your system in 72 hours and there's no physical addiction after that, only psychological addiction.....detox is for drugs that cause you to get sick such as heroin....so why would he be trying to go to detox then as stated in the article?......i think you're letting your emotions get in the way of your debate here
