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I respect your culture very much, but in my opinion
Suicide would be the least Rational thing to do
If you are just going to kill yourself, why not join the army, ask to be sent to iraq, and Bring a few fuckholes down with you?
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I respect your culture very much, but in my opinion
Suicide would be the least Rational thing to do
If you are just going to kill yourself, why not join the army, ask to be sent to iraq, and Bring a few fuckholes down with you?
so as for me, have i ever even thought about committing suicide, as in I thought about doing it
HELLZ NO
would i kill someone? yea, under the right circumstances
like if they keyed my car (
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HELLZ NO
would i kill someone? yea, under the right circumstances
like if they keyed my car (
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nth wrg with suicide. who owns ur life anyway..God?
Death before dishonor...the old samurai way.PreMier said:
I have thought about it only in the sense that it's a subject that has entered my mind. As far as considering it as one of life's options, no. Suicide is for the weak.
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I would never kill myself, I have 3 beautifull kiddos and to ever do that to them would be awfull. I did get into a bought of depression once when I was pregnant and the dude left me, but I realized he's just a stupid punk bitch that could never handle being a Dad. So I feel good about it now, since my life would have been and would still be HELL if he had stayed with me. My daughter is all that matters!
Also 3 of my closest friends all commited suicide when they were 15, they formed a suicide cult and each shot themselves two weeks apart. No matter what we did, did not change their views on life. It was terrible going to 3 funerals in 2 months and the look on their parents faces crushed my heart. And that their families could not look upon them one last time, closed caskets all of them. Gutt wrenching.
IMO it's not worth it. Seek help before it becomes too serious. Depression is a vast illness and you can only get help if you seek it or if someone detects it.
#1 reason why kids kill themselves- Social Rejection.
Also 3 of my closest friends all commited suicide when they were 15, they formed a suicide cult and each shot themselves two weeks apart. No matter what we did, did not change their views on life. It was terrible going to 3 funerals in 2 months and the look on their parents faces crushed my heart. And that their families could not look upon them one last time, closed caskets all of them. Gutt wrenching.
IMO it's not worth it. Seek help before it becomes too serious. Depression is a vast illness and you can only get help if you seek it or if someone detects it.
#1 reason why kids kill themselves- Social Rejection.
Not quite, you think that because you never contemplated it as a form of liberation from the common life.I Are Baboon said:
Quoting a friend from IM:
Damn, I like that quote.
Vieope said:
Liberation!? No, it's quitting, giving up, throwing in the towel.
If you talking about suicide as a form of escape from a terminal illness, that's one thing. But to kill yourself because you're going through a rough patch in life is a chicken shit thing to do.
Like I said before, "terminal illness" is very subjective.
Yeah, I guess we are all terminally ill since we are all going to die. 
Natural death is for those who like procrastination.I Are Baboon said:Yeah, I guess we are all terminally ill since we are all going to die.
As one who attempted it about 13 years ago, all I can say is that you aren't thinking about anyone or anything else at the time. The pain you are going through is so deep there is nothing anyone can do to bring you out of it. It's not a 'coward's way out' or a weak thing to do... it's a solution to pain that you cannot stand, or possibly think there is a remedy for other than dusting yourself off.
I don't mean to lash out or sound angry at anyone (I'm not), but unless you've experienced the profound pain and despair, you can't know it or judge it.
Obviously I failed at it (boy, what a loser... can't even kill myself!
) Sorry, a little black humor there. I came home from work one night and was so depressed (it had been a years-long chronic depression that I tried various treatments for... meds., a shrink, etc.) and started drinking, after not having eaten all day. I had written a note and had every intention of drinking everything in the apartment until I accomplished the mission. And that mission was to not wake up.
Suffice to say I would up with a b.a.c. of .216. I made it out my front door to pass out on the lawn, whereby a neighbor called EMS. I woke up in the ER. I started another form a therapy after that, which I have to say was successful in treating most of my depression. I still have my demons, but for the most part they are chained up. But they still rattle and strain at their chains.
I don't mean to lash out or sound angry at anyone (I'm not), but unless you've experienced the profound pain and despair, you can't know it or judge it.
Obviously I failed at it (boy, what a loser... can't even kill myself!
) Sorry, a little black humor there. I came home from work one night and was so depressed (it had been a years-long chronic depression that I tried various treatments for... meds., a shrink, etc.) and started drinking, after not having eaten all day. I had written a note and had every intention of drinking everything in the apartment until I accomplished the mission. And that mission was to not wake up. Suffice to say I would up with a b.a.c. of .216. I made it out my front door to pass out on the lawn, whereby a neighbor called EMS. I woke up in the ER. I started another form a therapy after that, which I have to say was successful in treating most of my depression. I still have my demons, but for the most part they are chained up. But they still rattle and strain at their chains.
It is a weak thing to do. Rather than fighting it, you off yourself.. leaving your family & friends to pick up the pieces. That makes it the most selfish act you can possibly commit. You owe it to your family & to that person who would find you dead to keep pushing.
No matter how many times you may have tried before, try again. Killing yourself is giving up. Only the weak give up.
No matter how many times you may have tried before, try again. Killing yourself is giving up. Only the weak give up.
Robert DiMaggio said:sorry, but no matter how you spin it killing yourself because you're depressed is cowardly IMO.
It is not cowardly or a weak thing to do.
Yes I saw the IMO but it would be nice to change that. Severe depression is so difficult that people lose the ability to walk, talk, eat or any other function you can think of. They just live in a world of severe pain 24hrs per day. This type of thinking that depression is only sadness is the main reason why insurance companies don´t cover mental problems in US. I have an ocasional period of depression and it is bad as hell, I never want to experience severe depression. My advice is to start reading a little bit more about the subject, one day you may help a friend.
as busyLivin said, suicide is quiting...which reminds me of a little saying:
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
either way, these people that are so severely depressed that they cannot function as you say, could seek out help rather than kill themselves, right?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
either way, these people that are so severely depressed that they cannot function as you say, could seek out help rather than kill themselves, right?
Not really Prince, a lot of people don´t know what a calorie is and they can´t figure out a simple diet to mantain a health weight. Imagine going through the process of looking for a good psychiatrist and spending a lot of time with combination of drugs to stabilize yourself. Even if that happens, which is difficult since a lot of people don´t respond to psychotherapy or drugs, the cost to mantain those drugs and visits to your doctor can easily supass U$15.000 per year. It is a very complicated issue. No wonder why the other alternatives like suicide, drug abuse and so on are so appealing.Robert DiMaggio said:
Well, I hope you guys never have to endure the pain and depression and despair that precedes and accompanies suicide attempts. Or rather, maybe you should experience it to understand. It's easy to sit in ones ivory tower and make pronouncements when you've never experienced it.
Vieope said:
Thank you.
Minotaur said:
I agree, I've never been in the situation and hope I never am. I deal with depression occasionaly, but not severe.
I guess I just believe there is always a way out.
Think about this busy, remember the last time you were angry and the decisions that you made? After it is gone, you usually regret of saying something or doing something.busyLivin said:
Imagine this, if someone is driving with a high speed and he suffers an accident and somebody that he loves die and just after it happened you ask him a mathematical question, would he answer right? No, because your judgment is not good and it is not under your control. That is what it is like to be in a severe mental problem.
Well no reason to argue about this though, I was just doing a poor analogy about it.
I can say now that I would kill the guy who asked that mathematical question
Vieope said:Think about this busy, remember the last time you were angry and the decisions that you made? After it is gone, you usually regret of saying something or doing something.
Imagine this, if someone is driving with a high speed and he suffers an accident and somebody that he loves die and just after it happened you ask him a mathematical question, would he answer right? No, because your judgment is not good and it is not under your control. That is what it is like to be in a severe mental problem.
Well no reason to argue about this though, I was just doing a poor analogy about it.
I can say now that I would kill the guy who asked that mathematical question
I see what you're saying, but all I can say is what I think I would do. I've never been there.
:bounce:
I dont think it is a very weak thing to do. I feel it does take certian amount of guts to see it through.Robert DiMaggio said:
Besides i dont think a person at the point of suicide cares about it being the ultimate failure(i know you didnt say that they did) because all else has failed in that persons life to push that person to that point. However mental dynamics are at work as well.
