Sus Pain & Sesame Oil

[Mr Big]

Hey all !

I have recently started my first cycle and my second injection has hurt my ass big time (Sus / Deca / HCG)!! swollen and real hurtin for days now, I have read that you can use .5ml of pure sterile sesame or grape seed oil at the same time to ease the pain .

Has anyone had anyexperience of this or can recommend a research company online that I could get some ? (wouldn't ask normally but as its an "over the counter product didn't think anyone would mind )

Thanks

 

[Mudge]

If you use sterile oil you dilute the mixture, diluting it is going to lower the pain if pain is an issue - yes.

 

[Tough Old Man]

Not sure that this rationale works. Yes, you dilute the anabolics load delivered to pretty dense tissue (intramuscular) but the injection oil (drug delivery vehicle) is far from being innocent in terms of inducing inflammation.

I've mentioned this before; in fact, my eyebrows shot to my hairline when I first heard about using grapeseed oil.

Its loaded, and I mean loaded, with omega-6 fatty acids that can and do get converted to arachidonic acid and its metabolites, known to actively promote inflammation.

The difference in reaction to these injections is then a combination of induvidual sensitivity to inflammation response (eg. local concentration of omega-3s that counter the omega-6 inflammatory action), bolus concentration (anabolic agent tendency to invoke pain and inflammation, a function of loading rate: total mgs/vol injected) and injection density; muscle status and previous history of injections to the site, and injection technique. I propose a little discussion here to see if we can identify factors that can be wiggled (adjusted) to reduce injection pain.

Probably might be a good idea to look over this list of factors, see if I missed anything, prioritize them, and then look for alternative options.

Anybody who has ever given or received an injection knows that technique can be important; adjuvant is a big, big issue. Rate of injection of viscous adjuvent is yet another.

I'm also wondering if a topical application that blocks or reduces pain perception an hour or more ahead of the injection might not be a bad idea.

And Mudge mentions the most obvious item: sterility of the injection. Your idea of sterilization and mine (from the technique I've seen described) are two different versions of reality.

What the heck. Some people don't have all this stuff.

You can just buy some sterile oil online. Then withdraw the amount of gear you want and in the same needle withdraw some sterile oil. It will definitely help with pain. Also inject slowly. Inject half the gear, wait 30 seconds and inject the rest of it. Then message the area.

Now Trouble can you answer this. All glute injection give me terrible hugh lumps. But I can inject everywhere else (traps, quads, delts) with no problem. What do you think is causing the glute injections to lump like this. I have tried high and low on the glute, side, back part and all to no-avail.

 

[Trouble]

Its an awkward site for injection. You use these muscles for locomotion; this can make you more aware of injection site irritation. Maybe you have a skinny ass and it overloads the muscles, who knows.

 

[Tough Old Man]

Its an awkward site for injection. You use these muscles for locomotion; this can make you more aware of injection site irritation. Maybe you have a skinny ass and it overloads the muscles, who knows.

I see you have obtained your wit back again. LOL......Skinny ass. Come on you have seen me before while driving down the road and the sign on the back of the truck reads "Wide Load".

Anyways I do understand what your saying and the possibilities are there.

 

[Trouble]

An educated guess would be that the glutes are loaded with sensors, positional, pain (pressure), etc. Needed for feedack for locomotion and rest.

Ditto with the quads. Lot of ennervation because of the tricky business of locomotion and balance between anterior and posterior chain for stability.