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Well, I wouldn't really say I'm bulking - I'm eating basically as I normally do... moreso I'm not in a cutting cycle.
Would it be wise to use in this situation? I'd like to loose some of the belly fat I grew over the summer, as I put on a few good pounds there. But I do not intend to change my diet (but running is picking up lately..).
It appears to be safe, and doesn't seem to affect the muscle tissue, so I'm willing to give it a try if it could work.
Pirate how much did you say you used of the Targe when you applied it. I guess i'm ready to see if it works as I'm on a slow cut. No use in using more then needed and wasting it.
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I found 4 pumps a day to be enough. I put one pump on each love handle twice daily. More than that made my joints too dry. You are a lot heavier and may need to use closer to the suggest dose which is about twice what I found comfortable and effective. I was also taking T3, but the fat loss was clearly specific to the area of application.
Thanks old buddy. Because of my size, I will go ahead and use as directed even though it came with no directions. I guess that would be a total of 8 pumps. Did you use it morning and night.
Lower abs, three pumps morning and three pumps at night.
And no results. That sucks big time. About what I figured. Licorice burns fat when rubbed on and causes fat when eaten. Go figure.
Yep. And I'm on a contest diet, I'd have thought I'd definitely see something. But, alas, it seems to be useless. Oh well.
We should have taken that $40 and entered a online no holdem tourney.
It's only been a week. I can only speak from experience, and the half of the bottle I used worked well enough to justify the cost. The lack of cortisol was even interfering with my sleep. Maybe it doesn't work as well when you are already lean (which I never am).
There's a thought for you. Maybe there's still hope for me.
Shit, I'd buy it off you haha... this fatass needs to start losing some weight. Put on some serious weight this summer... good and bad. Most people cut during the summer - but I'm special. I gotta hustle before I go back to school in a few weeks! Might give ephedra a go-code.. still contemplating..
So do you have to do more ab exercise than usual to ensure that the fat is burned?
No. There is no relation between the area being exercised and the area where fat is used for energy. You need to be on a caloric deficit. The best way to do this is to reduce caloric intake (diet) and increase energy output (exercise, especially cardio).
Targex does not increase the rate at which you burn fat or cause you to burn fat when you otherwise wouldn???t be. What it does is help you choose what fat will be burned preferentially if you put yourself into fat burning mode. It will only help if you are already losing fat through diet and exercise.
Honestly, I think it's worthless.
well nathan if I ever figure a way that i can get past a week without drinking some beer, I'll try mine and see what happens. I can't try it until I know that I can do this right and give honest results. I'll shave tomorrow (sun0 and try it and make sure I don't have a beer for at least two weeks.
TOUGH
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Personally, I like the stuff. I didn't experience any joint dryness, no clothes staining, no harsh smell, no rash or burning, and it seems to be helping loose some around my waist line with proper diet and cardio. I didn't start noticing the difference until around the second week. Now whether it all comes back is my only worry. I don't plan on eating junk food, so if it comes back, I'll be surprised. Since it is a cortisol blocker and pronounced by stress, my job is still stressful, so we'll just see. Whatever the reason, it won't be because of eating.
aw crap, I just noticed this is my first post here....so I know how this is going to look, but I'm just saying it like I see it.
aw crap, I just noticed this is my first post here....so I know how this is going to look, but I'm just saying it like I see it.
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Hey trouble...I was wondering if that was you. When I looked at your gallery, I recognized the earrings and workout gear.
Great to see you again.
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Hey GD! Long time, no hear/see/sniff!
Golly gee gosh darn-it-all, its nice to see your avvy again!
*grinning happily*
T'aint nobody gonna think lesser of you for posting here - we're honored to have you here. I hope you plan on sticking around.. This forum is *better* than certain others, and its membership is surprisingly solid and community minded.
You'd be a real asset here; you're like-minded. Plus, you have an exceptionally fine hand and whit as an experienced moderator. I help mod here in the AAS section and run the Health subforum. You should come visit me over in health; you and me should have a chit chat about stress management and excitatory brain chemistry. You will find what I have to tell you, on forum and in private, to be revelatory and exceptionally helpful to you.
About TargeX-1
I think this product will work for short-term and intermediate blockade of the adipose fat storage receptors; the effects should last until the treated cell receptors turn over (are recycled). Therefore, it might be of benefit to periodically reapply it for a week or so, then cease use for another month or two.
(you just made my day by posting here) Welcome to IronMagazine Forums!
Hey GD! Long time, no hear/see/sniff!
Golly gee gosh darn-it-all, its nice to see your avvy again!
*grinning happily*
T'aint nobody gonna think lesser of you for posting here - we're honored to have you here. I hope you plan on sticking around.. This forum is *better* than certain others, and its membership is surprisingly solid and community minded.
You'd be a real asset here; you're like-minded. Plus, you have an exceptionally fine hand and whit as an experienced moderator. I help mod here in the AAS section and run the Health subforum. You should come visit me over in health; you and me should have a chit chat about stress management and excitatory brain chemistry. You will find what I have to tell you, on forum and in private, to be revelatory and exceptionally helpful to you.
About TargeX-1
I think this product will work for short-term and intermediate blockade of the adipose fat storage receptors; the effects should last until the treated cell receptors turn over (are recycled). Therefore, it might be of benefit to periodically reapply it for a week or so, then cease use for another month or two.
(you just made my day by posting here) Welcome to IronMagazine Forums!
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Thanks for the warm welcome T. Without a doubt I plan on hanging out. I'll hit you up on email and PM too. 
I have been reading the forum and newsletters but just haven't posted yet.
What I meant about the first post on Targex is that it looks like I am spamming the product from out of nowhere. At least if I saw it, that is what I would have thought, with only truth reasoning of the join date being a few months earlier.
So for Targex, after the cellular recycling process, if the receptors are active again, should it matter if there isn't anything to fill the cell's storage? Meaning, if diet is still in check, then reapplication shouldn't be neccessary if weigh is controlled.
I have been reading the forum and newsletters but just haven't posted yet. What I meant about the first post on Targex is that it looks like I am spamming the product from out of nowhere. At least if I saw it, that is what I would have thought, with only truth reasoning of the join date being a few months earlier.
So for Targex, after the cellular recycling process, if the receptors are active again, should it matter if there isn't anything to fill the cell's storage? Meaning, if diet is still in check, then reapplication shouldn't be neccessary if weigh is controlled.
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Say you start out life as a normal kid. You roll thru kidhood into teen bopper days. During bopper development, hormones kick in, and so does stress, late nights, poor dieting-missed meals and snack-attacks, plus alcohol and maybe late night study drugs, thanks to a potent mixture of peer pressure and teenage rebellion. You don't workout often, just enough to keep from being a total fatty. Your body weight slowly climbs until age 18, say to a bodyfat percentage of oh, 30%. What has happened?
Well, you have glucocorticoid excess (cortisol) from the disrupted sleep patterns and missed meals. Your glucose tolerance is in the shitter, and your energy storage sucks wind for glycogen and creatine. You store energy all right, most of what you take in goes right into feeding those fats cells. They've increased in number twice, dividing when they became overfull. The daughter cells, preprogrammed by high cortisol and also blood sugar and insulin surges, thanks to (1) adrenergic stimulant use, (2) missed sleep, (3) missed meals (4) surges in agression hormones (thanks to altered adrenal and lvier function from numbers 2 and 3. Those new fats cells are now highly resistant to release of their contents.
Along you come, in your twenties, determined to reshape yourself. You diet down, slowly and painfully dropping body weight (fat and muscle being chowed, thanks to an energy deficit from crappy glucose metabolism in muscle and liver (oops, and brain too), zero storage of glycogen, and pretty minimal storage of the third muscle energy source for type IIb fibers, phosphocreatine.
You still have stress, but now its family and job, and fallout from previous stress events (many types here, from death in the family to high stress jobs like law enforcement and military action, stress from difficult emotional relationships with SOs, and from earlier sources, missing or deceased parents, siblings, or drug and alcohol use in parental units) that have your HPA axis in a lather.
Your cortisol levels remain high, your sleep quality is poor, and even though you try to diet your way down to lower bf levels, you find your energy diminished and your performance sluggish, as thyroid hormones respond to low calorie intake and further downregulate basal metabolism rate.
The number of fat cells remains relatively constant. Their content has diminished somewhat. You hear of this marvel, Targex and try it. To your delight, it removes subQ and even VAT stores, as its reversed the subborn pre-adipocyte programming (in English, that means the stem cell that was destined to become a mature fat cell - an adipocyte - has been exposed to compounds that are recognized as important signals of environmental conditions, and the appropriate genes are warmed and ready to go when the maturation signal hits the stem cell in bone marrow). SO your fat cells loose further fat mass. Are they totally depleted?
Non, mon ami. They are flattened and dewatered a bit, but they are still there, and still waiting to be refilled, their job in life since they got the wrong signals sent in earlier years.
But wait, we are clever and also read a helluva lot of biomedical literature. We remember seeing this paper:
http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/145/4/1849
Inhibition of Death-Receptor Mediated Apoptosis in Human Adipocytes by the Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I)/IGF-I Receptor Autocrine Circuit
Pamela Fischer-Posovszky, Hans Tornqvist, Klaus-Michael Debatin and Martin Wabitsch. Endocrinology 145(4):1849-1859 (2004).
And we remember that in the discussion section, there is mention if induced adipocyte (L3T3) cells by neuropeptide Y.
We also recall that neuropeptide Y is coinduced by GABAnergic receptors and glutathione, coincidently the same items activated by our happy overconsumption of whey, BCAA, taurine, and GABA.
Thus, in concert with cardio, careful diet rich in growth proteins, beta glucans, glutathione precursors, and low in insulin inducing carbs, we find our fat mass shrinking, very slowly, because we are turning over fat cells and not refilling their contents.
We strive to keep our cortisol at bay with stress modulation,proper sleep and meditation, and use of CNS calming/inhibitory compounds (GABA, taurine and glutathione), and we use cortisol blockers and adiopocyte differentiation blockers (like our Targex) locally to keep the fat mass from coming back into activity by naturally keeping its cell number constant (that is, by activating new stem cells when old daughter cells die off).
Thus, our primary reason for continued use of Targex is to keep the pre-programmed pre adipocytes, stored in bone tissue with other stem cells, from being stimuated to differentiate into new mature fat cells to replace aging and dying old fat cells. Our goal is to reduce the total number of active fat cells in the body, a process that will require years of diligent dieting, exercise and stress mitiigation. But at least we now know, its an achievable goal.
Hope this answers your question.
Note: the fictitious description of persons in this post are for informational purposes. No actual person is described.
PS: I will answer you lovely PM reply, tomorrow. (yes, I am grinning, too)
Well, you have glucocorticoid excess (cortisol) from the disrupted sleep patterns and missed meals. Your glucose tolerance is in the shitter, and your energy storage sucks wind for glycogen and creatine. You store energy all right, most of what you take in goes right into feeding those fats cells. They've increased in number twice, dividing when they became overfull. The daughter cells, preprogrammed by high cortisol and also blood sugar and insulin surges, thanks to (1) adrenergic stimulant use, (2) missed sleep, (3) missed meals (4) surges in agression hormones (thanks to altered adrenal and lvier function from numbers 2 and 3. Those new fats cells are now highly resistant to release of their contents.
Along you come, in your twenties, determined to reshape yourself. You diet down, slowly and painfully dropping body weight (fat and muscle being chowed, thanks to an energy deficit from crappy glucose metabolism in muscle and liver (oops, and brain too), zero storage of glycogen, and pretty minimal storage of the third muscle energy source for type IIb fibers, phosphocreatine.
You still have stress, but now its family and job, and fallout from previous stress events (many types here, from death in the family to high stress jobs like law enforcement and military action, stress from difficult emotional relationships with SOs, and from earlier sources, missing or deceased parents, siblings, or drug and alcohol use in parental units) that have your HPA axis in a lather.
Your cortisol levels remain high, your sleep quality is poor, and even though you try to diet your way down to lower bf levels, you find your energy diminished and your performance sluggish, as thyroid hormones respond to low calorie intake and further downregulate basal metabolism rate.
The number of fat cells remains relatively constant. Their content has diminished somewhat. You hear of this marvel, Targex and try it. To your delight, it removes subQ and even VAT stores, as its reversed the subborn pre-adipocyte programming (in English, that means the stem cell that was destined to become a mature fat cell - an adipocyte - has been exposed to compounds that are recognized as important signals of environmental conditions, and the appropriate genes are warmed and ready to go when the maturation signal hits the stem cell in bone marrow). SO your fat cells loose further fat mass. Are they totally depleted?
Non, mon ami. They are flattened and dewatered a bit, but they are still there, and still waiting to be refilled, their job in life since they got the wrong signals sent in earlier years.
But wait, we are clever and also read a helluva lot of biomedical literature. We remember seeing this paper:
http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/145/4/1849
Inhibition of Death-Receptor Mediated Apoptosis in Human Adipocytes by the Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I)/IGF-I Receptor Autocrine Circuit
Pamela Fischer-Posovszky, Hans Tornqvist, Klaus-Michael Debatin and Martin Wabitsch. Endocrinology 145(4):1849-1859 (2004).
And we remember that in the discussion section, there is mention if induced adipocyte (L3T3) cells by neuropeptide Y.
We also recall that neuropeptide Y is coinduced by GABAnergic receptors and glutathione, coincidently the same items activated by our happy overconsumption of whey, BCAA, taurine, and GABA.
Thus, in concert with cardio, careful diet rich in growth proteins, beta glucans, glutathione precursors, and low in insulin inducing carbs, we find our fat mass shrinking, very slowly, because we are turning over fat cells and not refilling their contents.
We strive to keep our cortisol at bay with stress modulation,proper sleep and meditation, and use of CNS calming/inhibitory compounds (GABA, taurine and glutathione), and we use cortisol blockers and adiopocyte differentiation blockers (like our Targex) locally to keep the fat mass from coming back into activity by naturally keeping its cell number constant (that is, by activating new stem cells when old daughter cells die off).
Thus, our primary reason for continued use of Targex is to keep the pre-programmed pre adipocytes, stored in bone tissue with other stem cells, from being stimuated to differentiate into new mature fat cells to replace aging and dying old fat cells. Our goal is to reduce the total number of active fat cells in the body, a process that will require years of diligent dieting, exercise and stress mitiigation. But at least we now know, its an achievable goal.
Hope this answers your question.
Note: the fictitious description of persons in this post are for informational purposes. No actual person is described.
PS: I will answer you lovely PM reply, tomorrow. (yes, I am grinning, too)
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<sigh> At least you are used to my long-assed infomercial posts. Some here went into sticker shock when I started to post really long ones,months back.
You could hear their eyes glaze over...
<sigh> At least you are used to my long-assed infomercial posts. Some here went into sticker shock when I started to post really long ones,months back.
You could hear their eyes glaze over...
What makes you think we still don't have it. Shock can stay for many of moons.
Any update on this shit? I need to lose some of this fat around my neck giving me a double chin! If this aids in speeding it up im all for it. The double chin runs in the family but when I was younger and in shape it wasnt there. Now that Im on a decent diet and doing cardio I wonder if this is worth a shot at only $40ish.
Also what is this TCS site he is talking about I want to buy this as cheap as possible becuase if it sucks I dont want to have wasted 50 dollars buying it from AG, 40 sounds alittle better LOL.
Like I said, I don't think it's worth anything. Just my opinion.
well today is my third day using it. I would suggest everyone hold off from buying the product until a few of us that have bought it give you our honest opinions on the fat burner product.
I'm really surprized that AG Guys haven't responded back to the negitive comments so far.
Now MP hasn't had any results from the product and i'm the 2nd to try it and will give an opinion after 10 days of use. I'm on a cut and dropping approx 2-3 lbs a week right now and if it doesn't work whils on this cut, then I will have to say save your money. I sure hope it works as I need it.
Tough
