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Test E vs. Test cyp

SoCalSwole

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In the past I have always read that they are pretty much the same. They have E in Europe, we have cyp in the US. Now I am seeing a lot of test blends with 200mg of cyp and 200mg of E per ml. Can anyone shed some light on whether or not there is synergistic effect of running both esters? Or whats the rational behind it?

I'm doing some higher test cycles now with great results. I was exploring high mg per ml preparations and can't find anything of real substance on what the benefits are on runnng both E and cyp other than Bro science "d" bags that just like the idea of a bunch of different test esters.

Any info on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
 
I don't have any scientific facts but with me my body seems to like test E better then C, where as most guys I know only want to use C. My script is test C but for the most part I use it for me trt dose only. When I cycle up with a long ester I use E. if I have to pick my favorite esters would be test P or sust.

i know it's not what your lookin for but just my experience with them.
 
I think having different esters/releasing compounds is always good. Stable blood levels is good. I would load up some TP/TPP and some TE/TC. Or just get your self some Sus.
 
I like test E, pin twice a week I also like Tren E
 
Ok sounds good. I tried sust and for some reason it made E hard to control. I never get tender nips on anything but sust did that. I think I'll go with the e and c blend idea.
 
I would run prop and E if your looking for a blend. prop last about 4 days and E lasts about 14. Prop has more test and less ester
 
SoCalSwole said:
Ok sounds good. I tried sust and for some reason it made E hard to control. I never get tender nips on anything but sust did that. I think I'll go with the e and c blend idea.
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Did the sus have TNE in it? That stuff packs a punch with estro man. Sus does seem to produce a lot of sides with people. For something that is supposed to keep blood levels even...it sure fucks shit up.
 
heckler7 said:
I would run prop and E if your looking for a blend. prop last about 4 days and E lasts about 14. Prop has more test and less ester
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Yea I gotcha on that. I run test prop with short ester stacks and C normally with longer ester stacks. This one will be with EQ and both the test and EQ are high 1 gram each a week. I know the molecular weight of the prop ester is less allowing for more test per mg but I would be willing to debate its minimal at best. I have not really noticed a big difference in the strength between the two. But I do enjoy how it hits in a few days other than a few weeks.

Also, pinning test P every 4 days is not really a good idea. If I run E or C I would twice a week pins. With that length of time in between the pins it would be hard to stabilize. I guess I could pin it EOD but trying to avoid everyday pins because I'll get plenty of that right after this 16 week cycle I'll be running test P, tren A and Mast for 6 weeks. Then I'll cruise on test and mast all spring and summer next year during the NPC 2015 season.
 
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raysd21 said:
Did the sus have TNE in it? That stuff packs a punch with estro man. Sus does seem to produce a lot of sides with people. For something that is supposed to keep blood levels even...it sure fucks shit up.
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Yea it did have TNE by the way. Hmmm good to know. Nice catch Ray:)

Funny thing is my very first cycle years ago was test suspension in water (ouch!!) 250 a week EOD. Stupid cycle from a Youth and longevity clinic. Learned a lot since then but I should have put two and two together on that.
 
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raysd21 said:
Did the sus have TNE in it? That stuff packs a punch with estro man. Sus does seem to produce a lot of sides with people. For something that is supposed to keep blood levels even...it sure fucks shit up.
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yea I ran sus over 10 years ago and dropped it first week sides were worse than tren for me. never touched it again
 
Test cyp and Test E are almost identical TEST IS TEST weather half of it breaks down in 8 days or 12 days is the only difference. Cyp because of the shorter ester packs a tiny but honestly not noticeable stronger punch. Most guys who are here saying one does this and another does that, here is the question did all the raws come from the same source or at the very least did the oils come from the same lab? if they did not then you can't truly be sure if it was the difference in ester or some other impurity or something that you were feeling...
 
Swfl said:
Test cyp and Test E are almost identical TEST IS TEST weather half of it breaks down in 8 days or 12 days is the only difference. Cyp because of the shorter ester packs a tiny but honestly not noticeable stronger punch. Most guys who are here saying one does this and another does that, here is the question did all the raws come from the same source or at the very least did the oils come from the same lab? if they did not then you can't truly be sure if it was the difference in ester or some other impurity or something that you were feeling...
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Good point and a valid one too. I think people take the saying "test is test" too literally. Yes in essence that's correct. Having said that not understanding how the different esters work and not being able to maintain steady blood levels is what makes that statement easily taken literally and people getting mixed results.

Like Ray said sust can mess people up with E but the same people (I'm one of them) can take high doses of another ester with no sides at all. So its not really as easy as it implies when you say "test is test"

Just my 2 cents
 
Yes test is test but I like to run short esters when ever possible when I cycle up from the trt.
 
SoCalSwole said:
Yea it did have TNE by the way. Hmmm good to know. Nice catch Ray:)

Funny thing is my very first cycle years ago was test suspension in water (ouch!!) 250 a week EOD. Stupid cycle from a Youth and longevity clinic. Learned a lot since then but I should have put two and two together on that.
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Yeah not all Sus has TNE in it. I'm not sensitive to estro. But that shit fucks my nipps up. I usually don't even need Adex. I hate nolvadex. But I've been taking like half nolvadex's like eod recently just to keep it down. I'd like to make a TP/TPP/TI/ TC at like 50/75/100/100. That would be a nice even blend I think.
 
raysd21 said:
Yeah not all Sus has TNE in it. I'm not sensitive to estro. But that shit fucks my nipps up. I usually don't even need Adex. I hate nolvadex. But I've been taking like half nolvadex's like eod recently just to keep it down. I'd like to make a TP/TPP/TI/ TC at like 50/75/100/100. That would be a nice even blend I think.
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Well if you need a rat to test it on I think I could help you out :)
 
I use test E only because where I get it has test E dosed 50mg/mL higher than cyp for same price. I wouldn't be able to tell difference between the 2 if both dosed the same in unmarked bottles.
 
A lot of guys have different preferences. Both are long acting esters usually priced the same or very similar
 
Well I have decided to go with a blend of C and E. 200mg or test C and 200mg of test E in 1 ml. going to run 1 gr a week, along with 1.2gr of EQ for 16-20 weeks. depends on how well my blood handles it. Paxton has it and I will doing a complete log on the entire cycle starting in Dec and all the way through my prep for a May NPC show. Check it out feel free to comment.
 
The following doesn't make much sense to me. But it was my experience nonetheless.

In the past I have used Test E and Test C separately. For whatever reason, a blend of the two actually seemed to yield better results than the same dosage of either alone. In other words the combo of 300mg Test E and 300mg Test C worked better for me than 600mg of Test E or 600mg of Test C. I ended up combining the two because my source (way back when) ran out of Test E and asked to substitute Test C in it's place. So I ended up with a couple vials of each, and I mixed them rather than run one behind the other.

It is possible, and I would argue LIKELY that the reason for this is simply that I got a more accurately dosed product through pure luck when I used both of them together. On paper, it seems it shouldn't make a real difference.
 
Hmm interesting. I was hoping to hear something like this. ^^^^^^^^ Lets hope I find the same to be true.
 
I already kind of hinted at this kinda. The body likes different esters releasing in the body. As far as having noticable better gains? I would not have suspected that. But I wouldn't doubt it. G2G.
 
Funny, the half-life of test-c is a tad longer than test-e but most agree test-e last longer...............agree with the Master HI, can't tell any difference.
 
They are the same pretty much. You won't see anything like heavy said. Iv also used them both for years and nothing different.
 
heavyiron said:
Cypionate and Enathate are virtually identical. I have used both for decades off and on and I cannot tell any difference.
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I can't tell the difference either but I prefer to run Cypionate because it's what I was first prescribed for HRT.
 
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