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Test is Test....But??

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Some have their own preference to what test they like to use be it prop, enan, or cyp, but always heard test is test, but does it really matter?

My question is if I take 500mg of prop a wk, will I get same effects/gains from 500mg a wk test e? (after the fact that each have kicked in)
 
Some have their own preference to what test they like to use be it prop, enan, or cyp, but always heard test is test, but does it really matter?

My question is if I take 500mg of prop a wk, will I get same effects/gains from 500mg a wk test e? (after the fact that each have kicked in)

no..
they have different absorbtion rates.
I dont know the numbers exactly but I know that you absorb like 20% more prop over enanthate.

so to finish the sentence of the title of this thread...
test is test... but- the esters make a difference.
 
No, because of the wieght of the ester with say test E your putting less actual test in your body. Shorter esters are lighter so they take up less molecular weight, so its more concentrated in a way.
 
For 100 mg of prop vs E or C, you get about 90 mg of test from prop and 70 mg of test from E. this is off the top of my head but the numbers are close. Mg for mg, prop is stronger due to the ester weight, as mentioned.
 
For 100 mg of prop vs E or C, you get about 90 mg of test from prop and 70 mg of test from E. this is off the top of my head but the numbers are close. Mg for mg, prop is stronger due to the ester weight, as mentioned.

those numbers are pretty close...
 
There is a lot of confusion regarding the effect esters have on testosterone.

Sure, test is test, but esterfied testosterone is not just test...it is esterfied testosterone. There IS a difference. Contrary to popular belief, the attached ester makes a difference in several ways. They effect the metabolism of the testosterone molecule and also causes variances in protein synthesis rates. They also effect the testosterone molecule in more well known ways, such as differences in absorption rate rate and the percentage of testosterone contained per mg.

Usually, all we ever hear about is 2 things: How they effect absorption rates...and the amount of testosterone contained per mg. Naturally, many assume that shorter ester will deliver a greater muscle building effect, due to the greater amount of testosterone per mg, but this is not so. Research going all the way back to the 30's (and which continued for many decades afterward) clearly shows that longer esters result in a greater increase in protein synthesis than shorter esters. In other words, longer esters are superior for growth, per mg of testosterone injected. If memeory serves me correctly, a 200 mg injection of test prop increases protein syntheis slightly under 200%, while a 200 mg inject of test enth increases protein syntheis into the mid-200 range. Every single subsequent study has shown longer esters to have a greater positive effect on protein synthesis. However, it is understandable why people would think shorter esters provide more bang for the buck. Not only do they contain more test per mg, but they frequenly provide quicker intial results. In light of this, the false belief that short estes are more potent is further strengthened.

Longer esters are aslo more likley to interact with aromatse, due to their longer time in the body. This is why long esters promote a more watery look compared to test prop and may possibly even be a contributing factor in their ability to elevate protein synthesis above was is witnessed with shorter esters.
 
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Mike your posts are always great..

Ive wondered about the differences in esters for awhile... now is this basicly the same for anything attached to an ester ? Tren, mast ect ?

I understand the advantage of short esters with Tren, but just wondering about absorption rate or potency vs longer esters.

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I remember reading about the different esters a few years back. Mike is spot on. Great explanation!
 
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