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The Creatine you're taking is 100% crap. This is what your body wants.
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Nice attempt at a red herring.
You're also apparently too tired to stay on topic. You quoted me questioning the claim that CGP is absorbed into the BLOODSTREAM intact. Then you replied with how muscle contraction works. Creatine doesn't have jack crap to do with muscle contraction, it's only used as a phosphorous donor to turn ADP back into ATP. Either your reading comprehension skills are abysmal, or it was a nice try at a strawman argument. Either way this 'loser' is coming back to call you out and ask _again_ what happens to the intact, glycerol-bound molecule after it hits the bloodstream. My take is that if it isn't broken down at some point, it won't be taken up by muscle cells via one of the GLUT-X pathways, and so even though it makes it into the bloodstream, it would have lower muscle uptake. Plus, once in the muscle, wouldn't the glycerol inhibit the phosphor donating abilities?
A man who thinks for himself. I like that. Now remember creatine is best used during aerobic activity when your body uses glycolysis for energy. Hence why I like the Glycerol bond. Now if all you do is lift, and no cardio at all, your body uses the Kreb's cycle.
So IMO for best results you will find this to be most useful when hitting the gym on intense WOs. But I take it with all WOs.(unless you use CrM to stay bloated so you look big)
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Here is some information on CGP. I started using this product roughly a couple of weeks ago. I just got my bloodwork done again and my creatine levels were excellent/HIGH.
Here are my last four blood test results:
11/18/11: Creatine:0.99mg/dl (creatine-hcl) standard dose
11/29/11: Creatine:1.10mg/dl (creatine-hcl) double dose
12/07/11: Creatine:1.16mg/dl (creatine-monohydrate) double dose
12/20/11: Creatine: 1.30mg/dl (C.G.P.) standard dose
Standard range for creatine: 0.76-1.27mg/dl
I wanted to present the proof for all to read. I am no doctor, but I believe in progmatic testing and their results.
Here are my last four blood test results:
11/18/11: Creatine:0.99mg/dl (creatine-hcl) standard dose
11/29/11: Creatine:1.10mg/dl (creatine-hcl) double dose
12/07/11: Creatine:1.16mg/dl (creatine-monohydrate) double dose
12/20/11: Creatine: 1.30mg/dl (C.G.P.) standard dose
Standard range for creatine: 0.76-1.27mg/dl
I wanted to present the proof for all to read. I am no doctor, but I believe in progmatic testing and their results.
I'm sold on it buddy. My old lady and I are both using it. At least from the different creatines I have been using and the results of the tests. I am single dosing this product and producing a high blood plasma concentration than double dosing other creatine products.
Can someone else chime in on their results? Am I the only one who has done these tests?
Can someone else chime in on their results? Am I the only one who has done these tests?
I'm really confused here. I've never encountered standard blood tests for creatine. However I do know that creatinine levels are regularly tested for in blood as an indicator of kidney function.
Are your numbers above for creatine or creatinine?
They look like creatinine numbers to me, especially the standard range numbers. If that's the case, you'd better read the product promotion in the first post where they are telling you creatinine is toxic.
If it was Creatinine it would say Creatinine, not Creatine. If you can Acemon scan and upload your results to flickr or where ever and enter the URL of the image so we can see clearly.
Standardized blood testing for Creatinine goes hand in hand with BUN test. If you can find a doctor who can interpret the results would be best. But if your BUN levels are normal then Creatinine isnt an issue. That is if you arent taking anyother supps that may hinder liver and kidney function.
VolcomX311
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I believe those new, weekly claims of creatine-form superiority came primarily from bodybuilding forums and company X that was producing said new form of creatine. I don't ever remember a time in academia where CM wasn't the gold standard.
But I'm always curious to try something new personally.
Rodja is smarter than you dude, just be quiet.
Why don't you ask him about his certifications and his masters degree... I don't see you posting shit. You and your "supposedly better creatine that no one has ever heard of" can crawl back into the text book.
packers6211
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Man I need to just go back to APS Creatine Nitrate. I jump my bench press by 40lbs in a month taking that shit.
I did notice improvement in all of my lifts, maybe not that much. Keep in mind Packers was just getting back into lifting so a lot of that may be muscle memory. I saw 5-10% increases in most lifts so it is quite good but expensive. Here is the deal, I was taking a creatine everyday consistently which I normally don't do as I take pre-workout with it in there all the time and get a lot from my diet. I thought that was enough but I do notice a boost when I take CN or something that has MCC in it on a consistent basis.
VolcomX311
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If not for the price, Creatine Nitrate would be my staple creatine. But for budget sake, I'm back on mono. Mesomorph + Creatine Nitrate was an amazing combination for me.
Yes, this was pretty darn impressive. For a very short time Muscle Feast sold bulk creatine nitrate; to this day I regret not buying it and capping it.
VolcomX311
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DAMN! I can't believe I missed that boat!
...yeah "soon to have a degree in Anatomy and Phys" is not a valid reason for anything. This is a matter of cell/molecular bio or biochem. And several of OPs other comments really disclose that's he inexperienced in the science field.
Rodja, Threegigs, you guys have great points.
TJ - may want to spend a bit more time in the lab and less time hypothesizing. You have a good idea, but you have to no empiric evidence.
I'm not saying CGP doesn't work; merely that we don't have all the data yet.
Rodja, Threegigs, you guys have great points.
TJ - may want to spend a bit more time in the lab and less time hypothesizing. You have a good idea, but you have to no empiric evidence.
I'm not saying CGP doesn't work; merely that we don't have all the data yet.
Thank you! I was hoping you chimed in!
Sometimes it just takes me a while to find the interesting threads
