• Hello, this board in now turned off and no new posting.
    Please REGISTER at Anabolic Steroid Forums, and become a member of our NEW community!
  • Check Out IronMag Labs® KSM-66 Max - Recovery and Anabolic Growth Complex

The cut starts here: Natalie

Muscle Gelz Transdermals
IronMag Labs Prohormones
I have made some notes for my doc, and am doing the cytomel research. I think staying on the synthroid, but cutting back my dose, and adding cytomel might be the next thing to try. Once I see my latest blood test results I will know better what to do next.
 
:yell: :mad: :yell: I just drove to the docs in bad weather only to discover that my appointment is tomorrow. :( and I skipped the gym this morning because of it.
 
Originally posted by tigress
I have made some notes for my doc, and am doing the cytomel research. I think staying on the synthroid, but cutting back my dose, and adding cytomel might be the next thing to try. Once I see my latest blood test results I will know better what to do next.
Click to expand...

You can be "Subclinically Hypothyroid" and it will not show on a blood test...aslo an Estrogen panel and S-DHEA may be a good idea.....some need serum cortisol...see Ardenal Burnout

..and I'm not saying you are this or that, we are just exploring...K? :D

DP
 
The good news is that I have a good doctor who is not afraid to explore options. She knows me well and when I tell her that my diet and exercise is on she knows i mean it. I don't know what S-DHEA is, but I already had estrogen, progesterone, test, t3, t4, and tsh on my list to request to her for my next blood test. You should see my notes, she is going to think it's a riot! :rolleyes:
 
Just don't say DP suggests...:lol:

Serum DHEA, a precursor to test, aldosterone, androstendione, etc...produced in the adrenals, declines w/age

Your list looks good....glad medicine is socialized for you...that would be like $500 here....:p


DP

(they are different/strange...and much was in private....but you may want to go read Danielle's Journal(s)?)
 
Also, I had a full blood panel done in the fall, and everything was within the normal level except sodium. It was too low. My t4 and tsh were on the bottom of the normal scale, and they have come up since being on the synthroid.
 
Okay. I did read all of Leslie's journals like you suggested when I began, so I will read Danielle's now.

To clarify, is S-DHEA something I should add to my blood test list?
 
Feb 21/03

meal 1 6.30
2 eggs + 4 whites
1/3 cup oatmeal

meal 2 11.00
2.5 sc whey
2 tb cream
1/2c strawberries

meal 3 1.30
7oz chix
cabbage and mayo
2 turtles :o

meal 4 3.30
2.5 sc whey
2 tb cream
1/2c strawberries

meal 5 6.00
7oz lobster
1 tb mayo


cal 1875
fat 70
pro 235
carb 72

*for comparision purposes, t4 20, tsh .01, i will start recording this stuff here for later reviews.

Skipping today's workout and adding it to tomorrow. I also need to refocus, serious slip on those 2 turtles today. :( Fuck the people who bring chocolate to work when I am depressed and frustrated. :mad:
 
Last edited:
today-
meal 1 6.30
2 eggs + 4 whites
1/3 cup oatmeal
1 tsp pb

meal 2 11.00
2.5 sc whey
2 tb cream
1/2c strawberries

meal 3 1.30
8oz lobster
1 tb butter
1/2 grapefruit

meal 4 3.30
2.5 sc whey
2 tb cream
1/2c strawberries

meal 5 6.00
7oz lobster
1 tb mayo


cal 1750
fat 72
pro 215
carb61

snowshoeing, 90 minutes.

Arms today at the gym.
giant set ss

overhead tri rope ext 50/12, 60/12, 70/12
w/rope pulley bi curl 50/12, 50/12, 50/10

tri pulldown 60/12 x 3
w/ ez bar curl 50/10 x 3

incline db curls 20/6 x 3

tri bench dip bw only 12, 10, 10
 
Last edited:
Ok. Barely holding on by my fingernails here. Did my blood tests yesterday and should have the results back in a week or so, but my doc is on vacation so will have to interprete them the best I can without her til she gets back.

Sunday-

did 35 min tc upon waking

later-Delts, don't remember all weights or sets
military press
cable front raises
ss with cable side raises
rear flys on ball 10/10 x 3
upright rows 45/10 x 3

Monday-no training

Diet has NOT been perfect over last 2 days. Sunday wasn't too bad, but I did have 3/4 cup white rice, some crystal light, and a few handfuls plain popcorn, plus my regular food(less 1 shake). :rolleyes: Yesterday was worse, don't even want to go into it, it was bad. :finger: :mad: Might have been frustration coupled with PMS.
 
today's food

meal 1 7.30
2 eggs + 4 whites
1/3 cup oatmeal


meal 2 10.00
2.5 sc whey
2 tb cream
1/2c strawberries/blueberries

meal 3 12.30
6oz chix
1tb mayo
shredded cabbage

meal 4 3.30
2.5 sc whey
2 tb cream
1/2c strawberries/blueberries

meal 5 6.00
7oz haddock
2 tb tartar sauce(13g fat, 2g carb)
1 apple
3/4oz cheese

cal 1860
fat 76
carb 72
pro 246
 
Last edited:
I added an apple and 3/4 oz old cheddar to meal number 5, and swapped the butter for some tartar sauce(13g fat, 2g carb). I was starving and the fish alone wasn't hitting the spot after my leg training.

leg press seated 160/12, 220/12 x 2

sl lying press 90/10 x 3
ss sl calf press 90/12 x 3

db romanian deads 45/6, 55/8, 55/8

single leg smith lunge 10/5 x 2

smith lunge 70/8 x 2

leg ext 45/12 x 3 (legs were toast)
leg curl 60/12 x 1
 
7am chest

flat db press 20/12(sloooowww), 35/8, 35/8 (still no 40s yet)

flat chest fly 15/15
cable chest fly 25/10 x 2

seated hammer press 25/10, 25/10, 25/8

seated chest fly 45/5 x 3


today's food

meal 1 6.30
2 eggs + 4 whites
1/3 cup oats

meal 2 9.30
2.5 sc whey
2 tb cream
1/2c strawberries/blueberries

meal 3 12.30
6oz haddock
2 tb tartar sauce(13g fat, 2g carb)
1/2 gf

meal 4 3.30
2.5 sc whey
2 tb cream
1/2c strawberries/blueberries

meal 5 6.00
6oz chix
1tb mayo
shredded cabbage

cal 1788
fat 76
carb 61
pro 215
 
Nat..I wanted to leave you a note....

There was one topic I didn't add to the "can O worms" post...and Mrs. Pain sort of qualifies here......but also has an underlying thyroid and estrogen dominance problem.

"Just plain Metabolically challanged"

....MP does have problem with too much soy food for lack of better options (she doesn't do well w/whey)..other than that, her family has a history of thyroid problems...and she has been on T4. Yesterday....she started T3 (and doubled her progesterone) under our Doctor's supervision, so I should be able to give you an indication of whether that causes a metabolic shift with in a week :D (stats: 5'8" 154...solid yet)

As for me...altough my BW only changed .2 pounds for the week, composition, energy levels, and mental alertness have all improved!

Hang in there... :p


DP
 
Thanks! Let me know how it goes for you and MP. I am doing this t4 for 6 weeks, and then i go back to the doc again. She seemed hesitant to prescribe the t3, and wants to see the blood work a few more times first.

The break I took from counting cals/watching food/posting here for a few days seems to have renewed my spirit. I am ready to keep going now.

I trained early today because I knew I had to get my first hepatitis shot, and sure enough, I wouldn't have been able to train had I waited. Arm is numb.
 
Muscle Gelz Transdermals
IronMag Labs Prohormones
Yesterday, Feb 27th
day off training

meal 1 6.30
2 eggs + 4 whites
1/3 cup oats

meal 2 9.30
2.5 sc whey
2 tb cream
1/2c strawberries/blueberries

meal 3 12.30
detour bar, and i am NOT reading MMA's journal anymore since that's what set me off ;)

meal 4 3.30
2.5 sc whey
2 tb cream
1/2c strawberries/blueberries

meal 5 6.00
6oz chix and shrimp curry
with 2 tb rice (made by me)

cal 1884
fat 80
carb 76
pro 215
 
feb 28th

bw 174, and i think I can see some more muscle in my arms.

7am-back

lat pulldowns 90/12, 120/12, 135/10
single arm pulley row 30/12 x 3
rg neutral pulldown 120/5, 120/8, 120/8
pulldown machine 135/12
 
hah! Not that funny, I have a box of them in my filing cabinet(3' away) but out of sight, out of mind, but I keep reading about them on this board! :D
 
w8....we have been talking....I asked Nat to start posting again...and I'm gonna go kick her ass if she doesn't :finger:

Nat...your friends miss you! :D


DP
 
Quick update- I have a blocked tube in my ear, which isn't a big deal until you consider that I am getting on a plane/going scuba diving in 5 weeks. Right now I am on nasal steroid spray, decongestants, and antibiotics in an effort to avoid getting a tube in my ear and my scuba plans axed. I haven't been training or following a strict diet, but I haven't been eating junk food or drinking either. Appetite has been slim to none.

There are a few results from my blood tests that didn't look great. High cholesterol, cortisol, and low thyroid. I am treating these with my usual t4 meds, and have added kelp supps, b complex, multi mineral and acidophilus to my usual multivit and primrose oil.

No strength training today, but we have a private dance lesson at 6pm and I think we will work jive/chacha, so it will be upbeat.
Back to the gym for strength training tomorrow.

7am
2 tuna pouches
1 apple
1 tb mayo

10am
5oz chix
1 tb newmans
1/2 grapefruit

1pm
green salad
3 oz chix
sliced almonds
newmans

4pm
5oz chix
1 tb newmans
1/2 grapefruit

7.30pm
2.5 scoop whey
1 tb flax
1 tb flaxseeds
1oz unsweetened pure cranberry juice
4 frz strawberries

cal 1738
fat 73
carb 61
pro 205
 
Thanks DP. ;)

Update for yesterday- meal 4- had a detour bar instead. :) Me and Brit, OMG, bad bad girls.

My ear is much better. :D Back to the gym today, I can't wait. Hope I didn't lose too much strength.

7am
2 eggs
4 egg whites
1oz oatmeal
jasmine green tea

11am
detour bar-
I know I'm gonna eat it-i need to get rid of them. :D

1pm
6oz chix
1 tb newmans
1 apple

post workout
small can of chunky soup

7.00pm
2.5 scoop whey
1 tb flax
1 tb flaxseeds
1oz unsweetened pure cranberry juice
1/2 c blueberries

cal 1662
pro 175
fat 62
carb 90

day updated....not the best. If i get hungry later I will add some tuna and mayo which would help fix these numbers up.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

G
the cut starts here
Replies
3
Views
2K
Gabrielle
G
G
The Cut starts here: Gabrielle
2
Replies
45
Views
5K
Dr. Pain
Dr. Pain
Pepper
The Cut Starts Here: Pepper
2
Replies
40
Views
4K
Jodi
Jodi
Back
Top