The LeptiGen Mass Project

[Robboe]

As most of you know, me, Steve, Dale and Matt have been running our little dieting competition. It was extended from it's original 8 week duration to a 12 week extravaganza and this weekend marks the ten week mark for myself.

I have a small supply of LeptiGen Mass that i plan to use during my transition from cut to gaining. I believe this to be the ideal time to use Mass since i won't suddenly be dropping calories from a high point and using Mass to compensate. With my bodytype, i'd feel hungry a lot and end up breaking the point of using Mass in the first place.

So, currently my calories are about 2400kcals a day. My weight is about 208lbs, so this is just over 11kcals/lb. This week i'm not going to make any changes to my diet. I'm going to continue eating as i was this entire week to test the product out properly. I've used LG Mass before last year but i used it haphazardly and most days ate too many calories, again, negating the principle behind the product. Then, i would say it was "good", especially since i was PCT.

This time, i am also PCT. Well, about to be. Just finishing off a short 1AD/M4OHN cycle during the latter weeks of this diet. I'll be finished by wednesday. I Start taking 1 cap of Designer Supps' Rebound XT yesterday. I'll take 1 cap/day until thursday when i'll bump up to 2-3 for the "real" PCT. I'll post my feedback on that product in a separate thread in the feedback forum, although i may mention effects from it in here also.

My training won't really change a huge amount, and i'm already taking in additional zinc, vitamin E and a multi. I'm also using SesaThin at standard dosing. I'm also still using ephedrine in small doses throughout the day for partitioning and a bit wakey-wakey, but i want to come off this completely within 4 weeks for an extended time. I chew 12mg of nicotine a day for hunger control also that i'll maintain during this project.

Because my carbs are still quite low by my own standard, i still plan to refeed at least once next week for glycogen. I've scheduled this for Wednesday, but the effect of the Mass may dictate me otherwise - i may decide i don't need it, or may schedule it at a later date.

Everything else will be done on a wim and i'll make note of them here. Any queries or advice is welcome.

 

[Yunier]

Good Luck. I wanted to try LeptiGen Rebirth but the pricetag was an issue for me at the momment. Anyways, when Its time to bulk I will be looking at LeptiGen Mass for sure.

 

[Robboe]

I think people expect too much from the title of the product. I don't think it's a "bulking agent" per se. More of a "gaining tool". When i think "bulk up", i think at least 400g carbs and high calories, usually with nice fat accumulation also. I don't want that, i want muscle gain and body fat maintenance or reduction. At least at this point in time, anyway.

Thanks for the well wishes.

 

[Rocco32]

Looks interesting buddy. Good luck and no hard feelings when I do end up beating you in the end

Seriously though, the last pics you posted looked very good and some nice improvement

 

[Robboe]

They were just impromptu camera phone pics. I'll get some proper ones taken in 2-3 weeks.

 

[PreMier]

Look forward to feedback. Goodluck Rob.

 

[Yanick]

good shit bud. i'll be here.

looking forward to your progress with LG Mass, if you see some good gains maybe i'll finally give LG a try after reading about it for so long.

 

[Twin Peak]

So this is your new digs eh? Tired of the competition?

 

[Robboe]

Ok then, first real update. I'll run this like a typical journal.

The LeptiGen itself:

1. When i last used it, the labels were a dull finish, but these are a glossy finish. Much more professional looking.

2. This mixes a lot easier than the last tim, with very little clumping at all.

3. The colour is a much darker red than last (more blood-red than watermelon-red).

4. The taste is more apple than sherbert like last time.

I'm dosing x3/day to begin with. This may change depending on results or when/how much i up my calories by.

Today i trained back and had a brilliant workout, although this was more testimony of yesterday's refeed.

Workout Summary:

Back: 9 sets
Traps: 4 sets
Erectors: 0 sets (usually do deadlifts, but none today).
Calves: 3 sets

Yesterday, pre-refeed i weighed in at 14st 10.5lbs (206.5lbs) which is the lightest i've been in a long time. I'll re-weigh myself tomorrow or monday morning and use that weight as my baseline, since i was quite depleted yesterday. I'll also take measurements sometime tomorrow or monday for the cutting comp.

 

[Robboe]

So this is your new digs eh? Tired of the competition?

lol. I've totally got you beat on this cut anyway. And i'm still in, rest assured.

 

[Twin Peak]

Not really, you were way leaner to begin with. And you haven't seen me lately. And these last two weeks, well, you will see.

 

[Robboe]

The comp whoever makes the most progress from start to end. I may have started leaner, but you have to admit that my baseline vs week 8 are better than yours. It may all change by week 12, but we shall see.

 

[Twin Peak]

Yeah, but I am sexier.

 

[Robboe]

I'll not dispute that. You look dashing in glasses, darling.

 

[Twin Peak]

Alright, so I just looked at your comparison photos again. You have done nicely, I'd not concede that you made more progress however.

Though I would like hearing unbiased opinions, because it seems real close to me.

 

[Robboe]

Well we do have the judge.

No pressure Jodi, but i know where you live.

 

[Twin Peak]

Yeah, I'd be interested in hearing that. It would make my ultimate victory all that much sweeter, if I was losing up to this point.

 

[Robboe]

I think they'd have to include it in the World's Greatest ever Comebacks.

 

[Twin Peak]

Your [sic] nuts. My stomach is still oversized, but its smaller. And the improved definition in my arms, back, shoulders, and lats, are fairly solid for 8 weeks.

 

[Robboe]

I agree. You've made stellar progress.

 

[Twin Peak]

I smell sarcasm. Bastard.

 

[Robboe]

lol. Not this time - I mean it.

What you can smell is the scent of victory emanating from my my armpits of triumph.

 

[Jodi]

Well we do have the judge.

No pressure Jodi, but i know where you live.

Shit, you guys are going to hate me after this arn't you. I'm just in it for the pics

 

[Robboe]

After training yesterday, without the addition of any stimulants or green tea, as i was eating my casein/whey and oats meal, i started feeling horribly jittery like i'd taken far too much ephedrine. Lasted for maybe 20 minutes. Wasn't pelasant, and all i can think of that caused it is the vinegar in my training shake. Did the same today as i trained and haven't had any bad effects yet.

Trap soreness today is untrue. Anyone any idea if increased vinegar intake can potentiate DOMS? Cause i had this effect after leg training on thursday for friday and saturday. They feel ok today though.

Had little sleep last night and was up early for training, but still had a wicked workout.

Summary:

Chest: 9 sets
Biceps: 6 sets
Calves: 3 sets

Did some light incline flyes today and they felt awesome. I haven't been able to do them in months because of a sore left shoulder but it feels much better now. I've gained a lot of delt mass back since i've been able to train them properly.

Today i weighed in at 15st 0.5lbs (210.5lbs), which is 4lbs up from friday morning's weight, which i mainly put down to water from the refeed on friday night, but probably also some of the cell volumisers in LG Mass beginning to take effect a little.

Tomorrow is a complete day of rest.

 

[Robboe]

Shit, you guys are going to hate me after this arn't you. I'm just in it for the pics

Only if you say he's the winner.

 

[Twin Peak]

Shit, you guys are going to hate me after this arn't you. I'm just in it for the pics

So who is winning so far, based on the comparison pics on AL. What kind of judge are you, if you can't judge.

 

[Jodi]

I'll judge when it's time to judge. You guys aren't done your cut yet

 

[Robboe]

Been quite tired the past two days - probably the weekend catching up with me, so i had an early night last night and will hopefully have an early-ish night tonight.

Did 40 minutes of walking on the tready yesterday morning about an hour after breakfast just to try and wake myself up a bit. Didn't work. Coffee seemed to help though.

Today i've trained legs. Tomorrow i will weigh myself in the AM and refeed in the PM. I also have shoulder training that i will perform early doors.

Other points of note is that i feel as though the cell volumisers are beginning to take effect as i appear fuller but my carb intake hasn't changed from last week.

Workout Summary:

Quads: 8 sets.
Hams: 4 sets.

 

[Twin Peak]

I'll judge when it's time to judge. You guys aren't done your cut yet

Scared? Some judge.

 

[Robboe]

Got up early, had breakfast, my LG and a cup of coffee and about 40 minutes later i was in the gym training delts and triceps. Had an awesome workout also, strength was up across the board by either weight or reps on all exercises. I was and am mightily pleased.

Tonight, i refeed. It'll be a smaller refeed than the past few weeks, however.

Workout Summary:

Delts: 6 sets.
Triceps: 6 sets.
Abs: 3 sets.
Calves: 2 sets.

Took me about 55 minutes.