The LeptiGen Mass Project

[Robboe]

Gym is shut tomorrow, which is when i scheduled in to do legs, so i moved them to this morning (that's 3 days on the trot), which is only 5 days since i last trained them, but hey ya.

Workout was great for progression, although my heaviest set of squats (my first work set of the session) was a rep down. I blame this on lack of sleep and lack of calories in me at time of training. Also the training a day earlier also. I also had sex several times last night and this morning before training which tired me out some.

For fun i did 2 sets of 2 reps with a heavier weight than usual (160k/352lbs). Also broke my SLDL that i set a couple of weeks ago of 4 plates a side by putting 2.5k either side lol.

Workout Summary:

Quads: 8 sets.
Hams: 4 sets.

Today is a high carb day again, but nowher near the heights of last week's. Today my carbs will go from 230g to about 550g.

 

[Robboe]

Another day, another dollar...Well, another quid. And i mean that literally - i actually found a pound coin between sets of side laterals. Not bad.

Saturday was a high carb day. Didn't weigh myself yesterday, but today i was 15st 5lbs (215lbs). On friday i was 15st 2lbs (212lbs), but the extra weight is definately from the carbs. So, gonna keep my calories as they are until i weigh myself on thursday and decide whether it's time to up by another 5-10g carbs. For clarity, at this point in time, my protein is around 310g and my fat is about 60g (including 8 fish oil caps), so i'm really not fussed about getting extra calories from those macronutrients. It's all about the carbs, man.

Todays workout was earlier than usual (up at 8am and training by 9am), couple with me not getting to sleep till about 2am cause i was round a bud's house last night who was down from scotland for a week. Had a good laugh playing Halo on the XBox. So strength wasn't brilliant, but it didn't suck either. Basically, if i dropped a rep or two here and there, it was because of these factors. Other exercises progressed nicely.

Workout Summary:

Delts: 6 sets.
Triceps: 6 sets.
Abs: 4 sets (taking these more seriously now - gonna start working on holding weight for sit ups).
Calves: 3 sets.

Hope everyone had a good easter.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Hey, TP, you are posting pics on Wednesday? I will wait til then as well. I took some yesterday but am not feeling them as I was really hungover.

Besides, I started on a Tuesday anywho...

 

[Robboe]

My photos will be taken any day this week when i have someone around to actually take the damn photos.

 

[Dale Mabry]

I thought you took them yourself, no?

I wish I had someone to do that, mine look crappy because they are shot from the bottom up. No point in changing that now, though.

 

[Rocco32]

Are you all shaving, tanning, oiling and posing? If so, what poses?

 

[Robboe]

Fuck no.

I'll put up the same 5 crappy poses i did in week 1. I'm not into this comp enough to adjust the lighting and shit lol.

 

[Yanick]

you guys should throw week 1 versus week 12 up here in a new thread with a poll and we should just vote on the winner.

 

[Robboe]

That's not a bad idea actually. Though polls can be fixed by moderators, can't they?

I'm not saying Dale is a tyrant of authority, but i can forsee him abusing his modship.

 

[Robboe]

My final pics and comparisons are up on AL. Get it sorted, girls.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Is there a way to make a collage comparing before and after for each pose in MS Paint? How would this be accomplished?

 

[Robboe]

That's how i did it. Using cut and paste with 3 paint windows open - one with the first week pic in, one with the 12th week pic in, and the one i was pasting them into.

 

[Robboe]

Did a session of cardio yesterday afternoon for about 40 minutes - 15 HIIT on the bike, a 10 min jog on the tready and 10 mins on the stepper. I'm going to look into the cost of a good stepper so i can have one in my house. Or at least a decent exercise bike. I've been told the good steppers are upwards of 1k, which just isn't gonna happen.

Today was back, and a decent session it t'was. Nothing awesome, but mild progression in places.

I'll weigh myself tomorrow and make any dietary amendments based on the reading. I was 15st 4.5lbs (214.5lbs) yesterday morning, and tomorrow i'f i'm still around this weight (214-215), i'll bump my carbs up by about 10g. Probably in my morning meal.

To do list:
Get more sleep.
--end of list--

Workout Summary:

Back: 8 sets.
Traps: 4 sets.

 

[Robboe]

Ok, time for a shake up. This week's workouts will be HIT style workouts, actually based heavily on pre-exhaust in typical Mentzer Heavy Duty fashion. Started this afternoon with my leg workout. Next week will be a deloading style phase with me using sub-work set weights and avoiding failure. Possibly with an extra set here and there on exercises.

Even though my calories are up, i'm looking leaner in the morning now (today and yesterday) than i did last weekend when i took my final pics. This is strange cause i've been under a lot of stress this week (which will continue for the next 2 months as i finish up Uni).

As far as Rebound is concerned:

It has worked incredibly well for me.

PCT of 1AD/M4OHN and within 2.5 weeks i feel pretty much fully recovered (although i have no blood work to prove this, it is purely by "feel" and the fact that i was able to have sex several times last night repeatedly without much of a break between).

Within a few days of 1 cap/day i had noticed increased ejaculatory fluid and a few more spots. No problem with sore joints, although i never really have sore joints.

Nolva usually has the same effect after about 2.5-3 weeks also, although i've never used nolva PCT after being this lean. I don't think my body is too happy being this bf% so i was suprised the rebound worked so well, so fast. I was expecting my sex drive to be significantly diminished, but it would appear not.

That is my testimony.

For my workouts, since volume is so low, i'll tell you exactly what i did.

Workout Summary:

Squats: 2 sets (first for strength, second for reps with forced reps).
Leg extentions for pre-exhaust with heavy leg presses: 1 set
Seated leg curls for pre-exhaust with heavy SLDLs: 1 set
Standing leg curls: 1 set (with negatives)
Hack Squats: 1 set (got my ten reps so no forced/negatives).

Some abs after that for hell of it.

 

[Robboe]

Maintaining the Heavy Duty-esque style of HIT...

Workout Summary:

Side laterals as pre-exhaust to hammer strength delt presses: 1 set (both with forced reps).

Seated rear DB flyes pre-exhaust to hammer strength delt presses: 1 set

Seated Skulls as pre-exhaust to EZ bar CGBP: 1 set (both with forced)

Weight dips as pre-exhaust to EZ bar CGBP: 1 set (CG with forced)

Then a 1 set standing calf/seated calf raise superset.

These workouts don't make me feel as pumped up as standard workouts do, nor as they bettering my numbers of the week before; I also realise that to truely get benefits from various programs they require at least a good 4-6 weeks of adhering to, but i do this just for fun really - just to kick things up a bit.


My weight this morning was 15st 4lbs (214lbs), although yesterday my carbs were higher so this may explain some of that. I've decided that regardless of my weight change by thursday, i will up my carbs again or else i can see myself running on the spot as far as gains are concerned.

 

[MorteSubite]

Are you happy with the LG results from these first 3 weeks or so?

 

[Robboe]

Right, used my last LG dose last night, so i've had a good month's use of it, so time for feedback.

I started using it at a weight of 14st 12lbs (208lbs), and today i am a weight of 15st 3.5lbs (213.5lbs). Now, lets put things into perspective - i started the LG in week 9 of my diet, and ran it through to week 12 and about 2 weeks after the official "end" date. I continued my same calorie deficit during the final 3 weeks of the diet, and managed to fill out a little, as most would agree based on the photos that i put up (week 12 vs week 8). At week 12 i was 15st (210lbs) on the nose, and two weeks after, with about 15-20g carbs more per day the only change in diet, i am as mentioned, 15st 3.5lbs (213.5lbs).

As far as the lean gains go, i think my calories were maybe too low to achieve this effect on only 3 servings a day. I should have done 4 at least, i feel. However, i defintately noticed improved training sessions, not only for strength but also for stamina, which was a nice addition. And saying this, i still managed to increase my weight somewhat from the start of use (my weight began to climb after i started the LG despite continually dropping until that point, although some of this was obviously the cell volumisers, but this gain would cease after a week or two).

For use as transition between dieting and gaining, particularly for endos like myself, i think LG Mass is a great addition. I think it will also help transition from gaining to cutting, and is great for post-workout recovery and even pre-workout for the stamina effect.

Next time i use it, and i will use it again, i'll have my calories probably at maintenance or very slightly above instead of quite so below maintenance level. I think LG Mass isn't great for dieting down, but it is fantastic for body recomping on low calories.

 

[bludevil]

So now that you've finished your Leptigen Mass trials, what's next?

 

[PreMier]

Nice feedback.

 

[Robboe]

So now that you've finished your Leptigen Mass trials, what's next?

Well, that's a good question. I've not decided yet.

Basically, apart from my usual fish oils, multivit/mins, SesaThin and protein powder, the only thing i'm "supplementing" with is the occasional bit of nicotine.

I basically want to get up to 220lbs within the next 6-8 weeks before doing a brief cut to reduce any accumulated bodyfat, which should theoretically be minimal if i watch my calories close enough, which i've been managing ok so far. Looks like i'll be doing that aú naturel. Although the following things i am very interested in trying:

Designer Supps: ActivaTe and GXR
Anabolic Xtreme: Phera-Plex & Superdrol stack

Other than these, i guess we'll just have to wait and see what new supplements are released in time. The Avant protein synthesis booster sounds intriguing, i must say.

 

[tucker01]

I must of missed the thread about the Protein Synthesis Booster, Know the Title of the thread?

I was Curious about ActivaTe and Rebound.

Phera-Plex Superdrol defintely seems to be getting alot of hype. Looks very interesting

 

[Robboe]

There wasn't one, just a passing statement made by Twin Peak on anabolic minds a short while back when he was still an AL employee.

Forgot to add to that list - CEE. Probably DS' Xceed product, but i may just try and source some bulk powder and mess around with it myself 'cause the DS ETA for Xceed is a fair while away.

 

[bludevil]

I'm fixing to run a cut, and thinking about using
DS - GXR, LX, and Avant's Sesathin. Maybe throw in some ephedrine (or Melting Point if it ever comes out) as well.

 

[Twin Peak]

XCEED is not that far away. ActivaTe is in (just not labeled yet).

 

[tucker01]

Sure it is

 

[Twin Peak]

It is. I am getting 2 bottles tonight. And then we will be starting beta testing? I'd offer up a few free bottles to members if this sight, but then I'd just be accused of advertising.

 

[tucker01]

LOL. Well you are striving to be the "lacky" for a "Shill"

Just give me the free bottle

 

[Robboe]

I'm fixing to run a cut, and thinking about using
DS - GXR, LX, and Avant's Sesathin. Maybe throw in some ephedrine (or Melting Point if it ever comes out) as well.

Judging by your avatar, unless that isn't you, you have got to be taking the piss. If you're planning to cut at what is clearly 6-8% on a pissy little ~80x~80 pixel picture and probably looks better 400x600, you must have a screw loose.

 

[Robboe]

XCEED is not that far away. ActivaTe is in (just not labeled yet).

I thught ti wasn't till end of May time? Or have i just invented that?

 

[Yanick]

Nice feedback Rob, looks like a decent product.