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The one cycle to rule them all?

Standard Donkey

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Hey all, so a few weeks after my naps gear comes in, ill be running a bulking cycle.


Diet:
Roughly 400 grams of protein, coming from clean sources (primarily chicken breasts and fat free cottage cheese)
Roughly 800-1000 grams of carbs (coming from brown rice, oats, and whole grain bread)
Fats (IDK, but it will come from lots of fish oil, evoo, and peanut butter)

I have access to an all-you-can-eat cafeteria, in addition to unlimited chicken breasts, peanut butter, oats, brown rice and fat free cottage cheese in my apartment.

Will also be eating a lot of spinach leaves



Cycle
Weeks 1-10



Injectables
  • Test Prop 700mg a week with ED pins
  • tren ace 700mg a week with ED pins
  • NPP 700mg a week with ED pins
Orals
  • Anadrol 700mg a week
  • dbol 350mg a week
Ancillaries
  • Letro .25mg 3x a week
  • Caber .75mg 3x a week
PCT 3 days after last injection
  • Clomid for week 1 50mg ED then Nolva 40/40/20/20 with caber and letro taper
Suggestions?

Please give sound reasoning behind your advice, folks over in the anabolic zone just gave out advice with no reasoning behind it...then literally called me "gay" when I questioned them...very disappointing.

I know some common objections will be the concurrent running of two 19 Nor's together, however, I am not concerned about ED (even if I do get it..I really don't care), and I feel that the dosage of caber should be sufficient to keep prolactin low enough to avoid gyno.

Also the dosage of oral steroids. In the past, I have run 100-150mg of GP orals for 10-12 weeks at a time, with very little damage to my liver (as was confirmed by bloodwork)

I feel that the dosage of letro will be enough to counter any bloat, gyno from estrogen that I would otherwise experience.

I know this may seem like a bit much, but steroids in and of themselves are somewhat extreme are they not?

The goal is to get as big and as strong as possible, while avoiding gyno. Of course, I will be able to lower the dosages, or remove some compounds completely if it proves to be too much to handle.

Please post.


Injection sites will be

Confirmed:

Quads
Delts
Pecs
Triceps

Optional:

ventroglutes (If I ever put in the effort to find the damn things)
glutes (If I can get my room mate to do them for me)
traps (if I can get my room mate to do them for me)

Gear Brands

Test Prop (Napsgear)
Tren ace (Napsgear)
Npp (Regenxxl
Anadrol (Regenxxl)
Dbol (regenxxl)
Ancillaries (Regenxxl)
PCT (Napsgear)
 
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Standard Donkey,
Please keep a running log of this cycle. I would love to see how this turns out! I'm sure many others would as well.
 
the dosages were originally much lower, and there was no Dbol, but I had a good week in the market last week so I figured id spend the money on something!
 
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Difficult cycle, I dont think you'll be very comfortable.

Post up pics :coffee:
 
Well.. As it turns out.. I only have enough drol to run at 75 mg ed instead of 100

So this means

Adrol 525 a week
Dbol 525 a week


I feel this will make it easier to eat.. And feel less lethargic
 
HCG to combat the tren from what ive researched/been told.

im thinking of running a similar cycle without drol dbol and npp so kinda similar not exactly

otherwise looks on point
 
theCaptn' said:
If I need to elaborate perhaps you need to reconsider this cycle
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If people were always 100% knowledge about their cycled then nobody would ever ask questions..

Im going to ask one more time.. Then forget about it..

Care to elaborate?
 
Standard Donkey said:
Hey all, so a few weeks after my naps gear comes in, ill be running a bulking cycle.


Diet:
Roughly 400 grams of protein, coming from clean sources (primarily chicken breasts and fat free cottage cheese)
Roughly 800-1000 grams of carbs (coming from brown rice, oats, and whole grain bread)
Fats (IDK, but it will come from lots of fish oil, evoo, and peanut butter)

I have access to an all-you-can-eat cafeteria, in addition to unlimited chicken breasts, peanut butter, oats, brown rice and fat free cottage cheese in my apartment.

Will also be eating a lot of spinach leaves



Cycle
Weeks 1-10



Injectables
  • Test Prop 700mg a week with ED pins
  • tren ace 700mg a week with ED pins
  • NPP 700mg a week with ED pins
Orals
  • Anadrol 700mg a week
  • dbol 350mg a week
Ancillaries
  • Letro .25mg 3x a week
  • Caber .75mg 3x a week
PCT 3 days after last injection
  • Clomid for week 1 50mg ED then Nolva 40/40/20/20 with caber and letro taper
Suggestions?

Please give sound reasoning behind your advice, folks over in the anabolic zone just gave out advice with no reasoning behind it...then literally called me "gay" when I questioned them...very disappointing.

I know some common objections will be the concurrent running of two 19 Nor's together, however, I am not concerned about ED (even if I do get it..I really don't care), and I feel that the dosage of caber should be sufficient to keep prolactin low enough to avoid gyno.

Also the dosage of oral steroids. In the past, I have run 100-150mg of GP orals for 10-12 weeks at a time, with very little damage to my liver (as was confirmed by bloodwork)

I feel that the dosage of letro will be enough to counter any bloat, gyno from estrogen that I would otherwise experience.

I know this may seem like a bit much, but steroids in and of themselves are somewhat extreme are they not?

The goal is to get as big and as strong as possible, while avoiding gyno. Of course, I will be able to lower the dosages, or remove some compounds completely if it proves to be too much to handle.

Please post.


Injection sites will be

Confirmed:

Quads
Delts
Pecs
Triceps

Optional:

ventroglutes (If I ever put in the effort to find the damn things)
glutes (If I can get my room mate to do them for me)
traps (if I can get my room mate to do them for me)

Gear Brands

Test Prop (Napsgear)
Tren ace (Napsgear)
Npp (Regenxxl
Anadrol (Regenxxl)
Dbol (regenxxl)
Ancillaries (Regenxxl)
PCT (Napsgear)
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I thought you would have learned from the Anabolic Zone, but obviously not. I suggest folks read his posts in the Anabolic Zone, laugh, then forget about responding to him here.

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Oh, maybe the 10 weeks of anadrol and dbol might work your BP a little too high, good chance of developing jaundice.

Just a little reckless and unnecessary is all.
 
If this is a troll the thread should be removed
 
theCaptn' said:
If this is a troll the thread should be removed
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The dude comes out with hair brained cycles that are just dangerous and stupid every couple of months, you should have seen his first proposal lol I'm sure he's doing it to troll folks. He's pretty good at it, as I'm not usually one for responding to such people but he hooks me every time.
 
Anabolic5150 said:
I think the two oral compounds is gonna wreak havoc on your liver.
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Dbol and adrol are actually commonly used together.

some people run drol at 150mg ed.. Id be willing to bet that 75 drol and 75 dbol would be lighter on the liver.

Im sorry guys.. But Ijust dont believe that oral steroids are as toxic as people want us to believe.. Do any of you know any gear heads who have gotten jaundice from oral gear?

Let me remind you, that unlike a number of posters in this thread, I dont drink while on cycle.. I actually havent drunk a drop in over 5 years..

All of my previous cycles which contained heavy oral usage (100mg +) have given me very slight elevation.. Barely over the normal range.

You can insult me all u want.. But if u dont give me reasoning behind it.. I have no reason to take it seriously.
 
I wasn't insulting you at all, more showing concern. In my opinion, 2 orals on a cycle at the same time is excessive. Does that mean you shouldn't run it, no. You can do whatever you choose, I just wouldn't do it.
 
theCaptn' said:
Oh, maybe the 10 weeks of anadrol and dbol might work your BP a little too high, good chance of developing jaundice.

Just a little reckless and unnecessary is all.
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Even on 1.5 grams of tren ace a week, my bp stayed in the normal range.

People run 100-150mg adrol a day for 6 weeks.. Is running 75 of both dbol and drol for four extra weeks going to destroy me? Only 1 way to find out

This gear is ugl anyways.. Not pharm grade, most likely underdosed
 
Anabolic5150 said:
I wasn't insulting you at all, more showing concern. In my opinion, 2 orals on a cycle at the same time is excessive. Does that mean you shouldn't run it, no. You can do whatever you choose, I just wouldn't do it.
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Sorry anabolic, I know a quoted you, but I wasn't actually referring to you about the insults.
 
Standard Donkey said:
Sorry anabolic, I know a quoted you, but I wasn't actually referring to you about the insults.
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No worries, thought maybe something I said was taken out of context. Just be careful, get blood work done and run support supplements to stay healthy.
 
Standard Donkey said:
Dbol and adrol are actually commonly used together.

some people run drol at 150mg ed.. Id be willing to bet that 75 drol and 75 dbol would be lighter on the liver.

Im sorry guys.. But Ijust dont believe that oral steroids are as toxic as people want us to believe.. Do any of you know any gear heads who have gotten jaundice from oral gear?

Let me remind you, that unlike a number of posters in this thread, I dont drink while on cycle.. I actually havent drunk a drop in over 5 years..

All of my previous cycles which contained heavy oral usage (100mg +) have given me very slight elevation.. Barely over the normal range.

You can insult me all u want.. But if u dont give me reasoning behind it.. I have no reason to take it seriously.
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They run orals that high for only 4 wks 6 tops. If they are smart.

You may not believe orals are that toxic, but I have had blood tests that have proved otherwise bro. I have had PH's that proved to be damn toxic, and Dbol that did the same. I have ran 75mg Dbol where I'd take 25mg in the morning then chew 50mg pre-workout. This seemed to throw my liver down the drain 4 weeks in bro.

I know a gear head who is awaiting a liver transplant. Partly from drinking, and partly because he'd run insane amounts of orals, for way too long. Good to see you're not drinking, but you're still asking for injury brother.
 
Standard Donkey said:
Even on 1.5 grams of tren ace a week, my bp stayed in the normal range.

People run 100-150mg adrol a day for 6 weeks.. Is running 75 of both dbol and drol for four extra weeks going to destroy me? Only 1 way to find out

This gear is ugl anyways.. Not pharm grade, most likely underdosed
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Good UGL labs overdose their gear so they keep you as a dedicated customer.. It is a drug trade bro... The more you love their product the better for them.
Never plan out a cycle "hoping" your gear is under-dosed.
 
What I would do in bold...

Standard Donkey said:
Cycle
Weeks 1-10

Injectables
  • Test Prop 700mg a week with ED pins
  • Lower the prop to around 400/wk.
  • tren ace 700mg a week with ED pins
  • Lower the tren to 75mg/ED
  • NPP 700mg a week with ED pins
Orals
  • Anadrol 700mg a week
  • Go with only the 525 you plan.
  • dbol 350mg a week
  • lower Dbol down to 40mg/ED
Ancillaries
  • Letro .25mg 3x a week
  • Up to .25mg ED later in the cycle (you have test, tren, drol,dbol)
  • Caber .75mg 3x a week
PCT 3 days after last injection
  • Clomid for week 1 50mg ED then Nolva 40/40/20/20 with caber and letro taper
  • Add HCG 5,000 iu week 1, then 1,500 E3D-2x/wk
I want it on record I do not suggest this cycle for you, I just made suggestions on how to make something you are determined to do safer.
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Thannks a lot anxious, that woll certainly give me more gwar for future cycles lol.

You said your guy ran insane doses, do you recall what they were? And for what legth of time?
 
Standard Donkey,
Been following your posts for a while and know you come out with some outlandish comments at times. If you follow through with this cycle, please keep a close monitor on your vitals. At only 21, this cycle is too much too soon - too much for even the elite athlete for that matter! Unfortunately, you may see cardiac arrest before you see week #10. PLEASE BE SAFE!!! and responsible.

And cg89, please don't copy this cycle!
 
Standard Donkey said:
Thannks a lot anxious, that woll certainly give me more gwar for future cycles lol.

You said your guy ran insane doses, do you recall what they were? And for what legth of time?
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KISS is the best way to live in this world. (keep it simple stupid). The more basic your cycle, usually the safer it is. He would take 100mg/ ED dbol for 4 weeks, then up it to 150mg/ED for 2-4 more. Plus he'd run winny on the same cycle. He always went for high doses, yet didn't realize that after a certain point it no longer is is more effective, just toxic. Bro, you are better off running short oral cycles, that are simple. It'll save your body in order to handle more future years of gear. If you want to take things to the next level, look into GH, Peptides, and just keep researching. People on here are only looking out for your safety bro. Bro-telligence is actually really reliable with most things(from reliable sources), and has come from trial and error.
 
anxious1 said:
KISS is the best way to live in this world. (keep it simple stupid). The more basic your cycle, usually the safer it is. He would take 100mg/ ED dbol for 4 weeks, then up it to 150mg/ED for 2-4 more. Plus he'd run winny on the same cycle. He always went for high doses, yet didn't realize that after a certain point it no longer is is more effective, just toxic. Bro, you are better off running short oral cycles, that are simple. It'll save your body in order to handle more future years of gear. If you want to take things to the next level, look into GH, Peptides, and just keep researching. People on here are only looking out for your safety bro. Bro-telligence is actually really reliable with most things(from reliable sources), and has come from trial and error.
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totally agree on this. even without drinking this cycle looks extremely unsafe. i know no matter what we say youre going to go through with this if you want donkey.

if you do, please do a log :lick: im sure me and MANY others would love to see it

anxious1 said:
What I would do in bold...

Cycle
Weeks 1-10

Injectables
  • Test Prop 700mg a week with ED pins
  • Lower the prop to around 400/wk.
  • tren ace 700mg a week with ED pins
  • Lower the tren to 75mg/ED
  • NPP 700mg a week with ED pins
Orals
  • Anadrol 700mg a week
  • Go with only the 525 you plan.
  • dbol 350mg a week
  • lower Dbol down to 40mg/ED
Ancillaries
  • Letro .25mg 3x a week
  • Up to .25mg ED later in the cycle (you have test, tren, drol,dbol)
  • Caber .75mg 3x a week
PCT 3 days after last injection
  • Clomid for week 1 50mg ED then Nolva 40/40/20/20 with caber and letro taper
  • Add HCG 5,000 iu week 1, then 1,500 E3D-2x/wk

I want it on record I do not suggest this cycle for you, I just made suggestions on how to make something you are determined to do safer.
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i agree with all of these suggestions if this high risk cycle were run
 
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