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Nice w/o P, makes me think twice about coming up there to lift with you.
Rock and IainDaniel, you guys are gonna catch it come monday. and especially Rock, messing with the guy who holds your RI's in the palm of his hand
Rock and IainDaniel, you guys are gonna catch it come monday. and especially Rock, messing with the guy who holds your RI's in the palm of his hand
Geez...Talk about being hard on yourself.... I'll be pleased when I get to your size there Pal.P-funk said:
In my opinion (and others) you are looking big!
Oh come on. How much worse can he make it?!? Wait, nevermind. Scratch that!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry Patrick, er um SIR. Have a WONDERFUL weekend and diregard the previous posts. Someone hacked into my account and made those postsYanick said:Nice w/o P, makes me think twice about coming up there to lift with you.
Rock and IainDaniel, you guys are gonna catch it come monday. and especially Rock, messing with the guy who holds your RI's in the palm of his hand
i LOVE the oats in the pwo shake. thanks, bro
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BulkMeUp said:Hey Funk...
How do you do a drop set on squats? do you have a couple of guys around to quickly change the plates?
as far as i know, Pat doesn't lift with anybody (his gym is filled with morons really) so he probably just hussles and removes the plates himself.
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BulkMeUp said:that would have to be one quick hussle!!
What makes you say this? Since when were dropsets given a time limit? If you lift alone, change the plates quickly and do the set, its a dropset.
Not saying there is a time limit.PreMier said:What makes you say this? Since when were dropsets given a time limit? If you lift alone, change the plates quickly and do the set, its a dropset.
As i know it for drop sets, you continue repping with the least break time in between. It works fine when i do exercises with db's. I simply place them back on the rack, pick the next set and continue.
But for squats, I guess i was comparing it to my gym, where i would have to scurry about the place to get the right plates, change them, get my stance in order and lift .. repeat..
Besides, I guess i am not as experienced as you guys at doing dropsets for squats.
Rock and IAN- you are both dead.
JLB, Liftin bear, Yan- thanks.
Flex- glad you enjoy it.
as far as the drop set......
Yan is right, I don't lift with anyone, I just rack the bar and hussle around in the rack and then set up and go. Any easy way to keep it from taking long is that I don't use two 45lb plates for 225. I put on one plate, one 25lbs plate and then two 10lb plates on each side. that way I can just toss the plates off instead of trying to take plates off and put new plates on. Also, I usually don't use clips when i squat so i don't even need to walk out of the rack I just reach my hand around the bar, take off the plate that I don't need, drop it on the floor. Un-rack the weight set my feet and go again.
P is right, there is no set time limit for a drop set. If I were doing something easy like bb curls or bb shrugs I could just drop the plate and go. On curls and shrugs I could even have a person on each side of the bar peel the plates off with the bar still in my hand. With squats i am not that brave. There are no to people that I trust to stand on the side of that bar and take off plates with that weight on my shoulders....I don't know that I even trust myself for that. There is to much set up involved in squats to mess around with stupid stuff like that. I can tell you that I take about 10sec to drop the weight and then go to the next set. I want to make sure I get set up properly so that my form is on target.
JLB, Liftin bear, Yan- thanks.
Flex- glad you enjoy it.
as far as the drop set......
Yan is right, I don't lift with anyone, I just rack the bar and hussle around in the rack and then set up and go. Any easy way to keep it from taking long is that I don't use two 45lb plates for 225. I put on one plate, one 25lbs plate and then two 10lb plates on each side. that way I can just toss the plates off instead of trying to take plates off and put new plates on. Also, I usually don't use clips when i squat so i don't even need to walk out of the rack I just reach my hand around the bar, take off the plate that I don't need, drop it on the floor. Un-rack the weight set my feet and go again.
P is right, there is no set time limit for a drop set. If I were doing something easy like bb curls or bb shrugs I could just drop the plate and go. On curls and shrugs I could even have a person on each side of the bar peel the plates off with the bar still in my hand. With squats i am not that brave. There are no to people that I trust to stand on the side of that bar and take off plates with that weight on my shoulders....I don't know that I even trust myself for that. There is to much set up involved in squats to mess around with stupid stuff like that. I can tell you that I take about 10sec to drop the weight and then go to the next set. I want to make sure I get set up properly so that my form is on target.
Arnold Weekend reveiw
Arnold Weekend reveiw
So, just got home from NYC. The arnold weekend was pretty sweet. I opted not to pay the insane ticket price to see the BB'ing show. Instead I attneded the convention and watched so much powerlifting, olympic lifting and world strongman contest that it isn't even funny!! It was pretty sweet. Here are some of the highlights of the weekend:
- I got to meet up with Britchick again, which is always fun as she is cool to hand with and can always find a way to get me in trouble. I got meet archangel and his father which was very cool. Very nice people. And ofcourse goalgetter was there with me also....which is always fun (LOL).
- Olympic lifting was awesome!! Don't know the names of anyone of the guys I saw but I did see some impressive lifts. Most impressive was this guy who was a 135lb light weight liifting in the light heavy weight tier. He killed a 245lb snatch which was really sweet!! There was also a big heavy weight there throwing up some awesome cleans!
- Watching the World strongman contest was cool too. I got to see Zadrunus Saviskus win the axl contest. For those that don't know the axl is this barbell which is around 2.5-3" thick i beileve. On the ends of it, instead of plates, there are these wagon wheel looking things. It totals something like 365 or 375lbs. Teh object was to clean and press it to full lock out as many times as you can in 2min. The problem is that you can't really clean it as the bar is attached to the wheels and not like an olympic bar which spins and rotates so that it can rotate in your hand. So some of the guys had this technique of cleaning it up and catching it between their elbow with one arm like a zercher squat and in the rack position (like when you do a shoulder press) in the other. From there they would try and roll it up their chest to get their other arm (the arm that had it in the elbow) in place to press. One guy, Brian Siders, was really impressive. It was his first ever Strongman Contest and he put some verterans incluging magnuss vermagnussun to shame cleaning and pressing it 10 times!! That is the old record that was set by saviskus last year!!! Not bad for a rookie!! Zaviskus, not to be out done came up and did it 11 or 12 times (can't remeber). It was really impressive when he did it as he deadlifted the weight straight off the floor and cleaned it into position like a regular BB clean, by passing the whole step of getting it to the elbow and roling it up the chest! From there he didn't even have to do a push jerk and use his hips!!! It was amazing to seem him just press that weight with a bar that thick (which makes it realy hard) 11 times over head!!
- I watched the WPO bench press world record championship. It was cool to see people going for world records but it sucked because alot of them were bombing out, trying to just break a record. the coolest thing I saw was super heavy weight shawn lattimer benching 823lbs on his 2nd attempt. After he completed his lift he stood up facing the crowd with blood coming out of his eyes!! No doubt a product of really high blood pressure from (a) holding his breath while lifting a really heavy weight and (b) taking a butt load of anabolics (LOL).
- I also watch the heavy weight and super heavy weight WPO powerlifting meet. This was the coolest thing I saw and pretty much the only thing I did all day on sat. I got to see Don Thompson set a new superheavy weight WPO record at 1146lbs (I think it was). That was sweet, there was a lot of excitment as he started the lift and he just sunk it!! It was dually cool because Paul Childress lifted before him and set a new squat record and then Don came right up and broke that!!! Westside BB superheavy Weight MAtt Smith competed and placed 2nd behind Don thompson. He totaled something crazy like 2200lbs I think or maybe 2400lbs. It was the best day of his lifting career. He went 8 for 9 on his lifts missing his third attmept at an 840lb deadlift. He missed it but was really happy with his day (remeber his best ever). He walked over to Louie Simmons who was really pissed about him missing that lift I guess. He went to shake his hand and Louie wouldn't even look at him, shake his hand or talk to him. I heard he can be kind of a jerk. Anyway, Matt was a really nice guy. I got to meet him after the contest. Also, Andy Bolton (superheavy weight) set a WPO deadlift record with a 909lb deadlift! Teh most impressive thing was that he lifted the weight from the floor so fast and then stood there holding it hor a good 5sec, looking around the crowd, smiling and yelling "that ain't nothin'"!!!!
All in all it was a really fun weekend. I liked it better than the olympia as there was much more to do, see and take advantage of at the convention without having to break the bank to see the BB'ing contest, which is the only contest to see at the Olympia.
Arnold Weekend reveiw
So, just got home from NYC. The arnold weekend was pretty sweet. I opted not to pay the insane ticket price to see the BB'ing show. Instead I attneded the convention and watched so much powerlifting, olympic lifting and world strongman contest that it isn't even funny!! It was pretty sweet. Here are some of the highlights of the weekend:
- I got to meet up with Britchick again, which is always fun as she is cool to hand with and can always find a way to get me in trouble. I got meet archangel and his father which was very cool. Very nice people. And ofcourse goalgetter was there with me also....which is always fun (LOL).
- Olympic lifting was awesome!! Don't know the names of anyone of the guys I saw but I did see some impressive lifts. Most impressive was this guy who was a 135lb light weight liifting in the light heavy weight tier. He killed a 245lb snatch which was really sweet!! There was also a big heavy weight there throwing up some awesome cleans!
- Watching the World strongman contest was cool too. I got to see Zadrunus Saviskus win the axl contest. For those that don't know the axl is this barbell which is around 2.5-3" thick i beileve. On the ends of it, instead of plates, there are these wagon wheel looking things. It totals something like 365 or 375lbs. Teh object was to clean and press it to full lock out as many times as you can in 2min. The problem is that you can't really clean it as the bar is attached to the wheels and not like an olympic bar which spins and rotates so that it can rotate in your hand. So some of the guys had this technique of cleaning it up and catching it between their elbow with one arm like a zercher squat and in the rack position (like when you do a shoulder press) in the other. From there they would try and roll it up their chest to get their other arm (the arm that had it in the elbow) in place to press. One guy, Brian Siders, was really impressive. It was his first ever Strongman Contest and he put some verterans incluging magnuss vermagnussun to shame cleaning and pressing it 10 times!! That is the old record that was set by saviskus last year!!! Not bad for a rookie!! Zaviskus, not to be out done came up and did it 11 or 12 times (can't remeber). It was really impressive when he did it as he deadlifted the weight straight off the floor and cleaned it into position like a regular BB clean, by passing the whole step of getting it to the elbow and roling it up the chest! From there he didn't even have to do a push jerk and use his hips!!! It was amazing to seem him just press that weight with a bar that thick (which makes it realy hard) 11 times over head!!
- I watched the WPO bench press world record championship. It was cool to see people going for world records but it sucked because alot of them were bombing out, trying to just break a record. the coolest thing I saw was super heavy weight shawn lattimer benching 823lbs on his 2nd attempt. After he completed his lift he stood up facing the crowd with blood coming out of his eyes!! No doubt a product of really high blood pressure from (a) holding his breath while lifting a really heavy weight and (b) taking a butt load of anabolics (LOL).
- I also watch the heavy weight and super heavy weight WPO powerlifting meet. This was the coolest thing I saw and pretty much the only thing I did all day on sat. I got to see Don Thompson set a new superheavy weight WPO record at 1146lbs (I think it was). That was sweet, there was a lot of excitment as he started the lift and he just sunk it!! It was dually cool because Paul Childress lifted before him and set a new squat record and then Don came right up and broke that!!! Westside BB superheavy Weight MAtt Smith competed and placed 2nd behind Don thompson. He totaled something crazy like 2200lbs I think or maybe 2400lbs. It was the best day of his lifting career. He went 8 for 9 on his lifts missing his third attmept at an 840lb deadlift. He missed it but was really happy with his day (remeber his best ever). He walked over to Louie Simmons who was really pissed about him missing that lift I guess. He went to shake his hand and Louie wouldn't even look at him, shake his hand or talk to him. I heard he can be kind of a jerk. Anyway, Matt was a really nice guy. I got to meet him after the contest. Also, Andy Bolton (superheavy weight) set a WPO deadlift record with a 909lb deadlift! Teh most impressive thing was that he lifted the weight from the floor so fast and then stood there holding it hor a good 5sec, looking around the crowd, smiling and yelling "that ain't nothin'"!!!!
All in all it was a really fun weekend. I liked it better than the olympia as there was much more to do, see and take advantage of at the convention without having to break the bank to see the BB'ing contest, which is the only contest to see at the Olympia.
here were the workouts I did while I was in Ohio.
3/4/05
BW- no scale at this gym to weight myself???
Alternating Db shoulder press (standing; alternating between each arm ever rep. non working arm is extended overhead locked out).
RI= 45sec
60/8,8,6
Weight is written as 8 reps each arm (16 reps per set total and 12 for the last set). Wow, this is exhausting. Holding the non working arm out overhead is what really tired you out. I can overhead press good weight standing up but doing it alternating in the fashion is brutal.
prone Db incline Row
RI= 30sec
55/10x3
sweating like crazy!!
15 degree incline press
RI= 30sec
tempo- 0/3/X. That is 3 counts in the hole and an explsive concentric.
70/10,8,6
damn, that 3 counts in the hole really gets ya.
NG pulldown
RI= 30sec
150/15,8,6
HUGE strength drop off between sets here. I was really sore and exhausted by the time I got to this. Plus I hate pulldowns so much, I suck at them. I would rather do pull ups. Oh well, these were killer.
Bent over Db lateral raises (rear delts)
RI= 30sec
20/12,10,10
weight seems light because it is.....most people don't do these properly. My form is really strict on these.
DB lateral raises
RI= 30sec
20/8x3
another killer on the form.
superset
a) cable curls- stack/8x3
b) cable pressdowns- stack/15x3
swiss ball crunches
BW/30x2
almost puked today.
3/7/05
BW- 188 (I don't know if the scale at my gym in NYC is off or not. At this gym I am a good 3-4lbs heavier than in NYC. I trust the scale at this gym as they have a lot of bb'ers train there and they host powerlifting meets so I know they have to keep it pretty calibrated for weigh 'ins. Oh well)
legs
squats
RI= 60sec
350/1
340/1
335/1
315/1
did a single every 60sec today decending weight each set. felt good. sinkin' them as usual.
SLDL
RI= 90sec
335/4x3
add a rep on each set this week.
unilateral leg press
RI= 45sec
410/5x3
weigh is lighter than last week because this was a different leg press machine and all leg press machines are not created equal in terms of leverage.
standing calf raise
RI= 30sec
300/12x4
superset
a) decline situps- BW/30
b) decline crunches- bw/30
One long 2min set of planks broken up in varius ways.
Performed with toes on swiss ball
30sec both feet
15sec one foot
15sec the other foot
60sec both feet
BB wrist curls
60/15x3
that's all folks.
3/4/05
BW- no scale at this gym to weight myself???
Alternating Db shoulder press (standing; alternating between each arm ever rep. non working arm is extended overhead locked out).
RI= 45sec
60/8,8,6
Weight is written as 8 reps each arm (16 reps per set total and 12 for the last set). Wow, this is exhausting. Holding the non working arm out overhead is what really tired you out. I can overhead press good weight standing up but doing it alternating in the fashion is brutal.
prone Db incline Row
RI= 30sec
55/10x3
sweating like crazy!!
15 degree incline press
RI= 30sec
tempo- 0/3/X. That is 3 counts in the hole and an explsive concentric.
70/10,8,6
damn, that 3 counts in the hole really gets ya.
NG pulldown
RI= 30sec
150/15,8,6
HUGE strength drop off between sets here. I was really sore and exhausted by the time I got to this. Plus I hate pulldowns so much, I suck at them. I would rather do pull ups. Oh well, these were killer.
Bent over Db lateral raises (rear delts)
RI= 30sec
20/12,10,10
weight seems light because it is.....most people don't do these properly. My form is really strict on these.
DB lateral raises
RI= 30sec
20/8x3
another killer on the form.
superset
a) cable curls- stack/8x3
b) cable pressdowns- stack/15x3
swiss ball crunches
BW/30x2
almost puked today.
3/7/05
BW- 188 (I don't know if the scale at my gym in NYC is off or not. At this gym I am a good 3-4lbs heavier than in NYC. I trust the scale at this gym as they have a lot of bb'ers train there and they host powerlifting meets so I know they have to keep it pretty calibrated for weigh 'ins. Oh well)
legs
squats
RI= 60sec
350/1
340/1
335/1
315/1
did a single every 60sec today decending weight each set. felt good. sinkin' them as usual.
SLDL
RI= 90sec
335/4x3
add a rep on each set this week.
unilateral leg press
RI= 45sec
410/5x3
weigh is lighter than last week because this was a different leg press machine and all leg press machines are not created equal in terms of leverage.
standing calf raise
RI= 30sec
300/12x4
superset
a) decline situps- BW/30
b) decline crunches- bw/30
One long 2min set of planks broken up in varius ways.
Performed with toes on swiss ball
30sec both feet
15sec one foot
15sec the other foot
60sec both feet
BB wrist curls
60/15x3
that's all folks.
Hi Funky 
It was great seeing you again and meeting your woman... and what a damn fine woman she is!
(Even if she is into that ballroom shit... 
she'll be all over me for that! 
) I've got a couple of good pics of the two of you that I'll have to get up.
I've been googling for pics of Shawn Lattimer and his bloody eyes but to no avail... someone must have some. It's funny everyone is asking me about the fitness and figure girls and I'm ranting on about the guy squirting blood from his eyesockets and the little kids lifting 1 1/2 times their bodyweight over their heads in Family Feud!
It was great seeing you again and meeting your woman... and what a damn fine woman she is!
(Even if she is into that ballroom shit... she'll be all over me for that! ) I've got a couple of good pics of the two of you that I'll have to get up.I've been googling for pics of Shawn Lattimer and his bloody eyes but to no avail... someone must have some.
It's funny everyone is asking me about the fitness and figure girls and I'm ranting on about the guy squirting blood from his eyesockets and the little kids lifting 1 1/2 times their bodyweight over their heads in Family Feud! 
Sounds like you had an awesome time Patrick! Between the BB contest, strong man comp and the WPO meet, I bet there was enough testosterone to sink a battleship .
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Wohoo, sounds like an awesome time you all had 
Nice to have you back P
Nice to have you back P
3/8/05
BW- 186 (I think the scale at mny gym is broke. it keeps sticking.)
Upper body
WG pull ups
RI= 45sec
Bw + 45/3x4
add 10lbs to last weeks weight and shaved 15sec off my rest interval.
Bench press
RI= 60sec
275/3x4
much harder to bench after doing pull ups. my 3rd set was the best out of the 4. really moved the weight well.
DB upright row
RI= 45sec
55/5x4
added 2 sets to what I did last week and kept the weight the same. Decreased RI by 15sec
BB curl
115/3x3
10lbs more than last week and 15sec off last weeks rest interval.
shrugs and for premier.....no wraps (over/under grip)
RI= 30sec
365/5x4
posing practice.
workout felt good. I don't know what it is. I try and let myself rest 60-90sec when i am trying to lift at greater intensities but I get fidgity and my recovery time is so good now that I am ready to go at 30sec. I have to fight to get myself to 45 or 60sec. This workout felt great.
BB curl
RI
BW- 186 (I think the scale at mny gym is broke. it keeps sticking.
)Upper body
WG pull ups
RI= 45sec
Bw + 45/3x4
add 10lbs to last weeks weight and shaved 15sec off my rest interval.
Bench press
RI= 60sec
275/3x4
much harder to bench after doing pull ups. my 3rd set was the best out of the 4. really moved the weight well.
DB upright row
RI= 45sec
55/5x4
added 2 sets to what I did last week and kept the weight the same. Decreased RI by 15sec
BB curl
115/3x3
10lbs more than last week and 15sec off last weeks rest interval.
shrugs and for premier.....no wraps (over/under grip)
RI= 30sec
365/5x4
posing practice.
workout felt good. I don't know what it is. I try and let myself rest 60-90sec when i am trying to lift at greater intensities but I get fidgity and my recovery time is so good now that I am ready to go at 30sec. I have to fight to get myself to 45 or 60sec. This workout felt great.
BB curl
RI
BulkMeUp said:10secs? wow.. thats quick. After a set of squats, the only thing ready to drop is me!
yeah, I move fast. The worst part was that I was going to do 3 sets of split squats after that but could only finish 2 as I almost puked all over myself. that workout makes me feel really sick. Legs and low rest intervals don't play well together.
Yeah, no kidding. He gave me my w/o for this week LOL. Maybe I should try apologizingIainDaniel said:
Great w/o's Patrick and great pics of you and Ivy
IainDaniel said:Do you check with Calipers regularly? if so how is the progress.
Awesome Pics.
no, with calipers maybe once at the begning (a few weeks ago I was 11%) and then maybe half way. I take weekly measurments and weight myself daily to check where I am. Progress has been great so far. thanks
Holy crap Patrick. Looking awesome. I understand that whole mentality of feeling "skinny" when doing a cut but trust me, your huge dude!! I'd be so psyched if I ever looked that good
Wow...Congrats...Looking good
