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Has anyone ever been happy with a non ephedrine thermogenic?
 
no. lol
 
Me neither
 
I'm sorry...I just like just with Ephedra...its a must have for me.
 
No kidding. especially when it comes to cardio...
 
It's my health, not someone elses.
 
Oh well, I'm glad to see some woman like the shit. My girlfriend thinks i'm about to commit suicide everytime i take something with ephedra. I'm glad to her you guys ( girls ) are informed!
 
I havent used one that isnt...but thats simply cause the ec stack works so well and "if it aint broken dont fix it"
 
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Everything we do is going to kill us...so why not die happy? LOL

Power...tell me about your ECA stack.
 
heck next they will be telling us that natural spring water is going to kill us.
anyways I for one like my EC stack. :)
 
I think that 9/10 non-ephedra thermogenics are a waste of money. Just because they are not going to yield good enough results to actually be worth the cash spent. Go with ephedrine. :D
 
50mg ephedrine(vaspro ephedrine hcl) 200mg caffine...the ephed is alittle high...but it because im not all that sensitive to it...i take it 3 times a day for a cycle of 3-4 weeks...
 
Damn PR, 50 mg. of Vasopro? That's insane. Vasopro is already ephedrine hcl, how can you tolerate that? Be careful man... damn. Be very careful. :eek:
 
i ran it at below the reccomended at first...got very little from it...no ereal increase over a normal drugless cut...ran it at reccomended...nothin...went to double..and i get good results...my body just aint receptive to beta antagonists
 
Ok..I have some of the Vasopro but haven't used any of it yet. Kinda stumped as how to use it, since I have always had hydroxycut or Charge with ephedra to use.

I'm saving it to see what the dr. tells me about my knee. But, I may go ahead and order some more since it will be hard to find soon.
 
is this Vasopro american or something? Ive never heard of it??
 
JLB try 1 pill of it(25 mg) with 200mg of caffine...2 times - 3times a day...its pretty much the accepted dosage...

Actually you might wanna split it and try for half a pill 2 to 3 times a day just to get a feel on what its doin for ya... :-)
 
I think I am immune to ephdra. Craig would always fuss at me for taking 3 hydroxycuts with ephedra 3 times a day...or the same amount of Charge. plus drink a diet coke during the day. He often wonders how I can take them then take a nap right afterward.
 
trust me on this one...the vaspro are pretty strong...I have not taken hydroxycut but have a friend that has run vaspro lipo 6 and hydroxycut and says that vaspro is stronger by far...
 
Hmm...now I am curious.
 
I take a ECY stack
25mg of Vasopro
2.5 mg Yohimbine
200 Caffeine

I don't necessarily feel a major jolt from this, but I do crash a few hours after taking it.
 
adding L-Tyrosine to the stack prior workout is a good choice, gives you a sucha good mental boost...1 gram along with your ECA stack
 
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