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du510 said:
Doesnt do shit for estrogen levels.
It does help your natural test levels, but its way overpriced.
If you want something similar, but better, check this out.
You da' man. :thumb:


If I was to get that, would I need 6-OXO or Nolva *ALSO* as well as that stuff?


Thanks!! :rocker:
 
DemolitionNine said:
You da' man. :thumb:


If I was to get that, would I need 6-OXO or Nolva *ALSO* as well as that stuff?


Thanks!! :rocker:
Yea youd still need a strong anti-estro. But, from experience, the stuff I showed you will help you feel better quicker. Ill get your lethargy gone better, libido up, etc etc. Seriously, try it. M1T is tough to recover from.
 
du510 said:
Yea youd still need a strong anti-estro. But, from experience, the stuff I showed you will help you feel better quicker. Ill get your lethargy gone better, libido up, etc etc. Seriously, try it. M1T is tough to recover from.
Score.

:thumb:

Thanks bro... you've helped me tremendously.

-Matt
 
if youre looking for nolvadex ...

www.inhousedrugstore.com

Good shipping time about 7 days and I live in Canada plus it was holiday time , but for that kind of product I didn't mind waiting ...
 
simbh said:
if youre looking for nolvadex ...

www.inhousedrugstore.com

Good shipping time about 7 days and I live in Canada plus it was holiday time , but for that kind of product I didn't mind waiting ...
Thanks bro.

Actually, PirateFromHell has given me the hookup on Nolvadex.

:thumb:

I've purchased some through him.
 
DemolitionNine said:
Thanks bro.

Actually, PirateFromHell has given me the hookup on Nolvadex.

:thumb:

I've purchased some through him.
Be warned, he peed in my "nolvadex"...
 
:nanner:


J/K

lol.

I trust him. Pirate's a very reputable member on here, and really knows his stuff. I'll be happy to have a PROPER PCT treatment this time after my cycle of M1T. This'll be my last cycle of this for a WHILE. I've liked the results, but I've found it to be a bit of a hassle in general, especially getting back to "normal".

Anyway, goodday to you sir!

:thumb:

-Matt
 
DemolitionNine said:
:nanner:


J/K

lol.

I trust him. Pirate's a very reputable member on here, and really knows his stuff. I'll be happy to have a PROPER PCT treatment this time after my cycle of M1T. This'll be my last cycle of this for a WHILE. I've liked the results, but I've found it to be a bit of a hassle in general, especially getting back to "normal".

Anyway, goodday to you sir!

:thumb:

-Matt
whats your dose, cycle length, pct and are you stacking it with anything like 4-Derm or running any HCG?
 
gococksDJS said:
whats your dose, cycle length, pct and are you stacking it with anything like 4-Derm or running any HCG?
My dose is 20mg's daily.

Cycle Length: 3 weeks

I've been stacking it with Milk Thistle to help protect my liver, and for PCT I'm going to take Nolva and then a Test Booster (the one previosuly mentioned in this thread from bulknutrition.com)

I've felt some incredible gains from this cycle.. I've increased almost 70lbs on my bench, and 50 lbs on my squat. My physical SIZE hasn't increased a ton, but my strength has shot up like a rocket. I've been eating clean at around 3,300 calories a day, and drinking TONS of water.

-Matt
 
DemolitionNine said:
My dose is 20mg's daily.

Cycle Length: 3 weeks

I've been stacking it with Milk Thistle to help protect my liver, and for PCT I'm going to take Nolva and then a Test Booster (the one previosuly mentioned in this thread from bulknutrition.com)

I've felt some incredible gains from this cycle.. I've increased almost 70lbs on my bench, and 50 lbs on my squat. My physical SIZE hasn't increased a ton, but my strength has shot up like a rocket. I've been eating clean at around 3,300 calories a day, and drinking TONS of water.

-Matt
congrats man, sounds like a successful cycle.
 
gococksDJS said:
congrats man, sounds like a successful cycle.

Thanks man.

:lifter:

I'm definitely happy with my results, and so is my GF. I'm gunna start cutting here after my PCT as well. I did manage to put on some fat on my abs (used to have a 6-pack, and that's gone right now). So, I'm aiming to get the 6-pack back, and get my bodyfat % back into the 7-8% range like it used to be. I still won't be very big, but definitely a LOT farther along than I was. I've most certainly learned a lot from you guys on here about the PH's & such, and again, I really appreciate the info & the help. You guys have steered me in the right direction, unlike the guys at my local supplement stores who never ONCE even told me about PCT's, and what to do properly.

Thanks.

Have a great day!

:rocker:

-Matt
 
Glad to see it helped you and glad to see that you were opened to tips ... You'd be surprised how many guys come on here , ask for help and then don't even do what people say they should ... Anyways , hope you learned from this cycle though , next time , have your pct on hand before you start your cycle ! And from what I've seen you should be able to retain most of your gains with a nolva pct along with a tribulus based supplement. I don't know if you currently take creatine , but that could be a good thing to start taking in your pct to keep your gain and give you a little extra pump
 
simbh said:
Glad to see it helped you and glad to see that you were opened to tips ... You'd be surprised how many guys come on here , ask for help and then don't even do what people say they should ... Anyways , hope you learned from this cycle though , next time , have your pct on hand before you start your cycle ! And from what I've seen you should be able to retain most of your gains with a nolva pct along with a tribulus based supplement. I don't know if you currently take creatine , but that could be a good thing to start taking in your pct to keep your gain and give you a little extra pump
I've definitely learned a lot from this cycle, and if I decide to do another in the future will definitely have my PCT / Nolva handy before even starting the M1t or equivelant. It was kind of idiotic on my part to just jump into a cycle, but I now know what to do, and how to do it. I do have creatine handy, and will begin taking that again as part of my PCT. I stopped taking it during my M1t because it kept cramping, and getting some pretty wicked pumps. So, I'll jump back into that band-wagon after my M1t cycle is finished.

After this cycle, I'll just continue on a High-Protein diet, creatine, and a multi-vitamin. I'll continue taking milk-thistle until this bottle is done, to help my liver recover from the toxins of the M1t cycle.

When I go to cut-up, should I try some Lipo 6 as well as shaking off 500 calories a day from my current diet? I don't want to get into catabolism, so I'm thinking 500 off should be enough to start seeing a difference. My current fat is just on top of my abs, and around my waist.. everywhere's else is very low fat. (I have popped veins, etc).

So anyway, my supps after cycle & pct will be:

Protein
Creatine
Multi-Vitamin
Milk-Thistle (until gone)

Is there anything else I need to do, or does that cover it ok?

Again, thanks guys.


-Matt :thumb:
 
DemolitionNine said:
2 bottles it is.

However, I'll keep my eyes peeled for Nolvadex also.


While I was looking around, I also noticed a supp called "Vitrix" by Nutrex. Is this stuff good? They say it's the best Testosterone booster out there.

However, does it cut down on the estrogen levels like Nolva or 6-OXO do?

Again, thank you for the help... I just want to make sure I have my facts straight here.

-Matt
Vitrix and other test boosters alone are not good for PCT, you need something that blocks estrogen at the receptors, which these don't do.
 
gococksDJS said:
Vitrix and other test boosters alone are not good for PCT, you need something that blocks estrogen at the receptors, which these don't do.
Got it covered. :nanner:

I bought some Nolva.

I'll go ahead and take a Test-Booster as well, to help bring my libido back up, etc.

Thanks man!

-matt
 
DemolitionNine said:
Thanks man.

:lifter:

I'm definitely happy with my results, and so is my GF. I'm gunna start cutting here after my PCT as well.
-Matt
wait until PCT, she won't be happy with her new flaccid friend...
 
gococksDJS said:
wait until PCT, she won't be happy with her new flaccid friend...

Why do you say that?

More aggression once I take that Testosterone booster you mentioned earlier ?

Does the Nolvadex do something ?


:hot:

Oh well!

hehe
 
DemolitionNine said:
Why do you say that?

More aggression once I take that Testosterone booster you mentioned earlier ?

Does the Nolvadex do something ?


:hot:

Oh well!

hehe
No i didn't mean that. When you come off your test levels will be that of a 5 year old girl, so if you wanna get a hard on I suggest 2 popsicle sticks and some tape to rig up a rudimentary splint.
 
gococksDJS said:
No i didn't mean that. When you come off your test levels will be that of a 5 year old girl, so if you wanna get a hard on I suggest 2 popsicle sticks and some tape to rig up a rudimentary splint.

:laugh:

LOL.

I see what you mean...


:laugh:
 
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