Timeframe for S1+ Gains

[NJ-Surfer]

Just curious as too how long before people saw any changes from using S1+. I have been doing 6 sprays 2xday for 2 weeks now. The good news is no side effects with the exception of trouble sleeping. The bad news is I have not seen any change in strength or mass. I have heard that most people dont see much change until the 3rd or 4th week. I was expecting to see gradual changes over the 4 weeks. Should I expect to balloon up in weeks 3 & 4??

 

[babylon]

i could feel it kick on day 5...are you saying you are seeing NO GAINS AT ALL?
do you at least feel better pumps ? - thats how i knew it kicked in. Normally you start seeing some serious strength/mass gains by the end of week 2. Personally i gained 8lbs the first week, but had to stop due to nasty sides. How is your diet man?

 

[NJ-Surfer]

Diet is good. I made sure I had the diet in line for about a month before going on S1+. No gains what so ever, no pumps no nothing just a little trouble sleeping. I do 6 sprays 2xday after scrubbing my skin in the shower. Putting it on chest, upper arms, and thighs.

 

[babylon]

yup thats how you supposed to do it...the only thing you can do is wait i guess
The 'no sides' part is what interests me most! is this your first ph cycle? does it at least burn?! trying putting some on your lips lol

 

[fireball]

i am having the same problem. been taking 5 sprays twice a day for 2 and a half weeks. have not seen anything to brag about. i do feel a burn after putting it on. that is about it though. wondering if i even need a pct.

 

[topolo]

I did 10 squirts twice a day and din't get much.......maybe you don't respond well to transdermals.

 

[NJ-Surfer]

The stuff definitely burns when I put it on but not too bad to be a concern. I am wondering if I should up the dose at some point.

 

[mino lee]

i am surprised you guys got nothing out of s1+. i've always claimed to be a hard gainer and i've given up on supplements after i tried the biotest mag-10 crap and got zilch out of it around 2 years ago.

i only tried s1+ cuz there were so many positive reviews. i've gained 16 pounds in 4 weeks and am therefore heavier than i have ever been. in the end of the cycle.

i wonder why........... someone mentioned you not responding well to transdermals, but i don't know what the reason might be........

i think if the product works for you, it shouldn't take that long to work. what makes the product great is the margin of error. you know how they say you should increase your calorie intake, and diet, and use twice a day etc.etc.etc. well near the end, i only used it at night cuz it just became too much of a hassle to put on day and night, and the diet was more or less the same as b4 and it still worked fine....

 

[Garcia.J.G.]

i am surprised you guys got nothing out of s1+. i've always claimed to be a hard gainer and i've given up on supplements after i tried the biotest mag-10 crap and got zilch out of it around 2 years ago.

i only tried s1+ cuz there were so many positive reviews. i've gained 16 pounds in 4 weeks and am therefore heavier than i have ever been. in the end of the cycle.

i wonder why........... someone mentioned you not responding well to transdermals, but i don't know what the reason might be...

How many sprays per day were you using? Did you gain consistantly throught the cycle or did your gains come near the end?

 

[NJ-Surfer]

I did 10 squirts twice a day and din't get much.......maybe you don't respond well to transdermals.

Why would I not respond well to transdermals? Is it not absorbing through my skin? Should I then apply more sprays to get more into my system?

 

[NJ-Surfer]

Can anyone comment on my situation? Did anyone else have a similar experience with S1+? Not too sure what to do at this point. Do I apply more sprays or do I stick w/ 6 2x/day? What if I get absolutely no gains after 4 weeks, do I still need a PCT? Is it possible that I got a bad bottle of this stuff

 

[babylon]

Can anyone comment on my situation? Did anyone else have a similar experience with S1+? Not too sure what to do at this point. Do I apply more sprays or do I stick w/ 6 2x/day? What if I get absolutely no gains after 4 weeks, do I still need a PCT? Is it possible that I got a bad bottle of this stuff

if you are on your 3rd week shouldn;t you have already started your second bottle??

 

[NJ-Surfer]

if you are on your 3rd week shouldn;t you have already started your second bottle??

I will be starting week 3 as of Sunday so I would start the second bottle then. Today my nipples are very sensitive so I am going off the S1+. I will do 2 weeks of 6-oxo as a PCT. I am guessing that I must be generating more estrogen from the 4-AD then testosterone for the 1-test? Maybe next time I should just go with the 1-test or maybe try 1-AD. Possibley 4-AD is a problem with my body chemisty? Too bad this was very dissapointing as I had made sure my diet and training were all in check before starting the S1+

 

[babylon]

i would run the cycle for 4 full weeks, otherwise you'll never know. Just run it with nolva for a few days. Who knows you might still see some decent gains on week 3 and 4. My estrogen levels go up real fast, my nipples started to get REALLY puffy by the end of my first week on s1. I started taking nolva and my nipples were back to normal within 5 days.

 

[babylon]

i would run the cycle for 4 full weeks, otherwise you'll never know. Just run it with nolva for a few days. Who knows you might still see some decent gains on week 3 and 4. My estrogen levels go up real fast, my nipples started to get REALLY puffy by the end of my first week on s1. I started taking nolva and my nipples were back to normal within 5 days. Its nothing to worry about, it goes away fairly quickly as long as you notice in time.

 

[NJ-Surfer]

i would run the cycle for 4 full weeks, otherwise you'll never know. Just run it with nolva for a few days. Who knows you might still see some decent gains on week 3 and 4. My estrogen levels go up real fast, my nipples started to get REALLY puffy by the end of my first week on s1. I started taking nolva and my nipples were back to normal within 5 days. Its nothing to worry about, it goes away fairly quickly as long as you notice in time.

How much Nolva should I take with the S1+? After I finish the the 4 weeks how then do I run the PCT?

 

[babylon]

PCT stays the same. Run nolva with s1 untill all syptoms dissappear. Should take about 3-5 days. I was doing 60mg a day. 1ml-20mg => 3ml. It comes with a syringe you should be good.