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Tito vs Chuck Dec. 30th

Tito vs Chuck Dec. 30th

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I hope someone gets it up on youtube soon. I would love to see the post fight press conference also.
 
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AKIRA said:
He does, but this time....cmon..a complete joke. Tito had more. Griffin had more. Tonight was like watching a WWE match.
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I though Griffin was a good stoppage, it took him a bit to realize he got blown up, then he started to ball his eyes out. Tito could have taken a little more in the third, I thought they should have stopped it at the end of the first. His heart was gone at the end of the second, you could see it in his face. You almost got your wish though, Tito's face was looking a little like Ken's. What happened? Tito has got some sorry takedowns.

That punch by Arlovski wasn't a cheap shot in my book. The ref was bringing the fighter to their feet because Arlovski kicked him in the head. That dude begged the ref not to to stand them up because he was scared shitless of Andre. The ref started it again Arlovski waited like a second and a half and then cracked him. And that dude was sleeping.


IMO, UFC gained a lot more fans in the last 2 pay per views.

Now, all they need is Wandy, Shogun, and Emelianko and this will get crazy.
 
Goodfella9783 said:
McDonald/Leben went into the second but yeah for the most part it seemed like they were all pretty quick and they almost fit the whole card in. I thought it was a pretty good PPV. Bisping, McDonald, Jardine, Arlovski, Alves and Liddell all made good performances.

As for the stoppage, Tito just layed there and basically covered up while Chuck threw bombs. Tito made no effort to move and that sealed it. Kinda the same thing that went down against him and Shamrock in their second fight,
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Thats what I was thinking!

I was tanked when I wrote my replies. Griffin was taking some blows and his flared arms had me laughing. I just know he can take it, so it makes me wonder. I couldnt believe he RAN out.

There was another stoppage that was just plain dumb...I forget which one. I am pretty sure it wasnt McDonalds.

Id like to see the Tito fight again considering that was my drunkest hour. I remember thinking they couldve let it keep going...I mean, I know he wasnt doing much other than defending himself, but it looked like most of those punches were nicely blocked. For a champion fight, I am sorry, but I wanted more.

I was kinda disappointed with this PPV, but I have to see it again to form a real personal opinion.
 
Tito was winning the scoring in a lot of those exchanges, but did no damage whatsoever to Chuck. Either Tito's striking is weak or Chuck's chin is stone.

Couture hit it right on the head. Tito needed to shoot for the takedowns after Chuck and he exchanged, not when he was seven feet away.

Maybe Tito should prepare for fights with tougher competition than Shamrock, Belfort, etc. Griffin was probably the best fighter he fought and we saw what Jardine did to him last night. Tito just barely got by him.


Liddell's has got to be worried about Rampage. That wasn't even a close fight last time.
 
My take on the PPV (seen at Boston Pizza):

Bisping and Arlovski were fighting people who were way lower caliber obviously but it was so they could both get their confidence up and they both performed well. That punch by Arlovski wasn't cheap IMO he just finished the fight faster that way - the guy he was fighting looked totally out of shape.

The Leben fight was awesome - since I'm in Canada! I was not expecting the outcome at all and I give total props to McDonald. But again, Leben looked out of shape and paunchy. He also showed how tough he is by not tapping and passing out. I thought that was an excellent fight.

Griffin didn't seem like himself and Jardine was punching much harder - I don't think Griffin was expecting that type of fight, he looked like a fish out of water and then got tagged. I thought that stoppage was legit and Griffen deserved to lose.

Alves - who cares!? Filler fight because all the others only went a round or two. Decent fight but again, a total mismatch.

Main event - again, a great fight. I'm continually impressed by the way Liddell stays back, gets his range, then cuts off the ring and starts dropping bombs. That could have easily been stopped in the first round and probably would have been if it was anyone else except Tito. My question is WHY Tito would not take the flurries and THEN shoot and try to take him down. Always these guys try to stand toe to toe and get killed. Finally in the third when Tito could have started taking him down he was too tired. Liddell also has AMAZING sprawls but Tito wouldn't shoot on him when he was closer to the cage so Liddell wouldn't have been able to back up. No idea what coaching that was all about.

Can't wait to see Rampage and Liddell go at it.

All in all a very good PPV and much better than the previous couple I've seen.
 
IainDaniel said:
http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/ufc+66/video/xw6qs_ufc-66-liddell-vs-ortiz-dec-30-2006

Tito liddell.
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Thanks, I needed to see it again. Im gonna watch the Liddell/Rampage one in a sec.

I dont understand why the fight was stopped in the 3rd round when it wasnt stopped in the 1st. He did cover up decently, shit even Couture said it.

It did seem that Tito wasnt making many good blows besides the kicks...which didnt seem to phase chuck. As far as chuck goes, well, one of those hits got tito good, but the ones seen in slow motion werent much. That elbow grazed him...

Ok now let me watch chuck get beat.. :)
 
ponyboy said:
My take on the PPV (seen at Boston Pizza):

Bisping and Arlovski were fighting people who were way lower caliber obviously but it was so they could both get their confidence up and they both performed well. That punch by Arlovski wasn't cheap IMO he just finished the fight faster that way - the guy he was fighting looked totally out of shape.

The Leben fight was awesome - since I'm in Canada! I was not expecting the outcome at all and I give total props to McDonald. But again, Leben looked out of shape and paunchy. He also showed how tough he is by not tapping and passing out. I thought that was an excellent fight.

Griffin didn't seem like himself and Jardine was punching much harder - I don't think Griffin was expecting that type of fight, he looked like a fish out of water and then got tagged. I thought that stoppage was legit and Griffen deserved to lose.

Alves - who cares!? Filler fight because all the others only went a round or two. Decent fight but again, a total mismatch.

Main event - again, a great fight. I'm continually impressed by the way Liddell stays back, gets his range, then cuts off the ring and starts dropping bombs. That could have easily been stopped in the first round and probably would have been if it was anyone else except Tito. My question is WHY Tito would not take the flurries and THEN shoot and try to take him down. Always these guys try to stand toe to toe and get killed. Finally in the third when Tito could have started taking him down he was too tired. Liddell also has AMAZING sprawls but Tito wouldn't shoot on him when he was closer to the cage so Liddell wouldn't have been able to back up. No idea what coaching that was all about.

Can't wait to see Rampage and Liddell go at it.

All in all a very good PPV and much better than the previous couple I've seen.
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I think they were only amazing cuz Tito had the shittiest shoots Ive seen in a while.
 
That Jackson slam on Arona was ridiculous. Was Jackson KO'd in the beginning tho? Looked like Arona stopped after Jackson caught a kick to the chin from the ground.
 
K I just watched it.

I definately gave the 2nd round to Tito, no question.

Looks to me like Tito's cardio was paying off, the longer the fight went on the more comfortable Tito looked and was looking better and better.

Tito looked terrified in the first.

Midway through the thrid I thought Tito would pull it out in the 4th or 5th. Tito was picking up speed and Chuck had 2 chances to knock Tito out while on the ground, once early in the first and again at the 2:40 mark. Tito's takedowns were getting closer and closer to working and Tito was connecting evenly w/ Chuck.


Terrible fucking stoppage. He was intelligently defending himself and was not being hurt in the slightest. Mario Yamasaki needs to go, BJM seems like the only good ref. Just because youre getting a dead arm doesnt mean the fight should be stopped...Having said that, Tito needs to work on his ground defense.


As much as I would love to hate Chuck...every time I see him in an interview or in a fight he's excellent and a class act. He's kind of like OSU... He just beat my Michigan, but I'll still cheer for Chuck against Rampage b/c he's Big10.

I don't know about you guys, but I'd love to see Tito-Chuck 3, there getting closer and closer. :shrug:

Were those public after parties they were talking about in the post fight interviews? Like if I was there in Vegas, I coulda gone to their afterparty?
 
Hmm I dont know if Id be all over a 3rd match. The fact that he wasnt smarter with his takedowns makes me think that he really didnt prepare for THIS fight, meaning Liddell.

Either way, I just wont care that much if theres a 3rd.
 
What ever happened to that promo fight between Tito and Dana?
 
goandykid said:
What ever happened to that promo fight between Tito and Dana?
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It's a boxing sparring session and it's supposed to happen early this year.

The fight was even going into the 3rd round and Chuck was gassing in a hurry! If Tito could have gotten up, my money says Chuck was done. That's what makes Chuck great though...he finishes fights when he has the opportunity. That said, Ortiz was in worse trouble in the 1st round and Yamasaki didn't stop it. Why stop it in the 3rd when Ortiz was taking shots mostly off the arms. Only one of those punches really landed. However, on the replay, the referee was talking to Ortiz, probably telling him he would stop it if he didn't get out of there. If that's the case and Tito didn't move, the stoppage was the right thing to do. I do know that Ortiz didn't complain about it.
Chuck hasn't been challenged like that in years, and his face definitely hasn't been beaten up like that in I don't know how long. Tito got dropped in the first round, then had the balls to go after Chuck again and even take him down. He fought a good fight, but Chuck was the better fighter, no doubt. IMO, there is nobody better at 205 in the world than Liddell right now. His hands are great, but his footwork is unbelievable. He would beat any 205'er Pride has to offer and will beat Rampage Jackson.
Chuck is a stud and I have no problem saying it. :thumb:
 
Yamasaki sucks balls. He needs to go. Hate to see him as a ref and especially in this fight. I knew he'd fuck this up ... I'm soooooo pissed he didn't let Tito turtle up and play through. Tito was just fine ...
 
I think Chuck is great but I also think Rampage will beat him like a drunken mule. Chuck hasn't gone up against anyone who can hit as hard as he can and take punches as well like Rampage can. I can't wait to see it though.
 
ponyboy said:
I think Chuck is great but I also think Rampage will beat him like a drunken mule. Chuck hasn't gone up against anyone who can hit as hard as he can and take punches as well like Rampage can. I can't wait to see it though.
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Rampage beat Chuck some years back. Should be interesting now though.
 
BoneCrusher said:
Yamasaki sucks balls. He needs to go. Hate to see him as a ref and especially in this fight. I knew he'd fuck this up ... I'm soooooo pissed he didn't let Tito turtle up and play through. Tito was just fine ...
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For a big fight like that, Im really surprised that Big John Mcarthy didn't ref.
 
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