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I dont do skull crushers coz i am likely to crush my skullTom_B said:You should have seen me doing sull crushers, quickly stoped those, a little fear is all right, but doing those scared the living bejebus outta me![]()
OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW, emma! My toe hurts reading that!!Emma-Leigh said:Don't worry - we have all done similar things! I have dropped a 44 pound plate (on it's side, so the force was concentrated in a small area) on my big toe before!! Owwwwwwiieeee - That hurt!![]()
Thanks for the great ideas!BulkMeUp said:I dont do skull crushers coz i am likely to crush my skull. I do close-grip pushdowns at the gym.
However, if you want, you could do a skull-crusher like exercise, called lying dumbell extensions. Lie on the bench with db in each hand, palms facing each other and arms extended over head. Bend your elbows and bring the db down towards your shoulders NOT your head. Keep elbows pointed up NOT back or out. Raise and repeat.
But careful. A black eye is not bad at all compared to loosing teeth, breaking your nose or wost of all, loosing an eye!![]()
In addition i do a close grip type of BP with db's. Lie on bench hold db above like you are benching. bring db's together so that they touch sides. lower db's and lower elbows to your sides, NOT flared out. raise and repeat.
I find this type of close grip bench and the close grip pushdowns gives my tri's a good wo.![]()
BulkMeUp said:OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW, emma! My toe hurts reading that!!![]()
Heya Tom. You might want to try some tricep kickbacks. What you do is, you bend over a bench or a table. Put your left hand and left knee on the table. Hold a dumbell in your right hand. Put your right elbow up next to the side of your body. Then bend and straighten your elbow, moving the dumbell from a hanging position, back past your hip. Kinda like what this guy is doing - http://www.netfit.co.uk/tri3.htm Works the triceps pretty good.Tom_B said:Thanks for the great ideas!
I've been looking for an exercise to get rid of one hand tricep extensions, I find they don't give me a great workout for my Tris, I guess I coulda tried regular over head extensions using both hands but I'm too damn lazy!![]()
Well I think anyone that does skull curshers is just asking ofr it I mean come on Skull Crushers = Your skull is gonna be crushed! I don't have alot of common sense but that ones a givin![]()
Thanks SlimSlimShady said:Heya Tom. You might want to try some tricep kickbacks. What you do is, you bend over a bench or a table. Put your left hand and left knee on the table. Hold a dumbell in your right hand. Put your right elbow up next to the side of your body. Then bend and straighten your elbow, moving the dumbell from a hanging position, back past your hip. Kinda like what this guy is doing - http://www.netfit.co.uk/tri3.htm Works the triceps pretty good.![]()
BulkMeUp said:OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW OW, emma! My toe hurts reading that!!![]()
Hmmm... It just struck me - are you doing a 'warm up' set at the same weight as your working sets? If so, consider adding a little weight to your workout sets. These should be a little harder than your warm up and, if you managed 14 reps on the first set you are probably needing to increase the weight slightly on the following sets.Tom_B said:Training- Back/Bi Day
Bent over rows *20lbs* 1x14, 3x12
Shrugs *60lbs* 1x14, 3x12
DB pullover *20lbs* 1x14, 3x12
BB curl *40 punds* 1x14, 3x 12
Concentration curls *15 lbs* 1x 14, 3x12
Abs
Side Bends *35lbs* 2x 15 each side
Plate twist *15lbs* 3x15
Looks excellent!!Diet-
Meal 1 - Oatmeal, unsweetned soy milk, whey
*workout*
Post workout- Skim milk, oatmeal, banana, cinnamon, whey
Meal 2- brown rice, skinless chicken breast, carb counting tortilla wrap
Meal 3 - almonds, egg whites, becil oil, almond butter, pear
Meal 4 - brown rice, tuna, carb counting tortilla wrap, diet pepsi ()
Meal 5 - cottage cheese, almond butter
I'm getting alot better with my social anxietyBOO YA!
I see some guys at my gym doing them. But they are mostly big guys. So i guess they know what they are doing and are more experienced than me.Tom_B said:Well I think anyone that does skull curshers is just asking ofr it I mean come on Skull Crushers = Your skull is gonna be crushed! I don't have alot of common sense but that ones a givin![]()
"I AM ON A BULK. I NEED TO HAVE THOSE CALORIES TO GROW!"Tom_B said:I'm still thinking if I'm gonna go outside to jog or not, I still got 20 minutes to decide..hmm to go or not to go
I try that so much, but I just can'tEmma-Leigh said:Hmmm... It just struck me - are you doing a 'warm up' set at the same weight as your working sets? If so, consider adding a little weight to your workout sets. These should be a little harder than your warm up and, if you managed 14 reps on the first set you are probably needing to increase the weight slightly on the following sets.
Might also want to do your shrugs after your pull overs - just flows better that way.
Ok sure, lol I was thinking that yesterday that it would be alot easier to do it that waybut I'm stupid like that
With my weights I push myself to do the 14 set (sometimes I have to stop at 10 for like 5-7 seconds) then I can barely do the rest of the 12 maybe I could throw in an extra rep or two depending on the type of exercise, does this just mean I'm not resting enough inbetween sets? So stick to my weights I'm ususally using and do 14 reps then increase the weight by say 5 lbs and push out as many reps as posiible? I widh weights were as simple as cardio, I'm always confused.
I know I need to increase some weights on my chest/shoulders I was able to do like 15 reps lol, I did increase my military press by 5 lbs, it was brutal.
Looks excellent!!Good to see the milk and banana!!
That meal sounds soooo goood
But I have to ask, what is 'becil oil'??
lol it is yummy!!
Becil oil is what I put on the pan to cook my egg whites.
Per 2 TBSP - Calories - 83
Fat - 9.2G (.8 sat)
Portein - 0
Carb - 0
I use it as a EFA.
The best thing you can do in life is not care what the rest of the world thinks of you... Do what you feel is right for you and make sure you are productive and pro-active in your approach to yourself, your life, your future and your role in society and everything else will fall into place.
That's exactually what I was doingBulkMeUp said:I see some guys at my gym doing them. But they are mostly big guys. So i guess they know what they are doing and are more experienced than me.![]()
Another thing is remember to NEVER adjust your grip and/or stance after you have lifted the weights. This has a definate potential to drop the weight on yourself. Once you have lifted the weights over you, DONOT wiggle your fingers or try and adjust yourself. You could injure yourself. If you need to adjust anything, PUT THE WEIGHT DOWN, adjust your grip/stance and then lift again.
I find it is kind of an unconcious thing to adjust an uncomfortable grip which i tend to do sometimes especially when i am not very focussed. But it is not a good idea. So try and avoid doing it always.
I agree with emma, your workout sets should have heavier weights than the warmup set. I understand you might not have the weights presently, but this is something you need to consider.
When you are able to do the predefined number of sets, always try and squeeze and extra rep for each set. When that gets easy, try squeeze another rep for each set. when that gets easier, increase the weights. This way you can push yourself to the next higher weight.
"I AM ON A BULK. I NEED TO HAVE THOSE CALORIES TO GROW!"
Now write that down 200 times on the blackboard!![]()
Tom_B said:I was thinking maybe instead of doing my abs on all my other workdays just move all my ab workouts to my "rest" day, would that give me the same reuslts?![]()
'Becil' is the name of a brand, if i am not mistaken. I think emma was asking about the contents.Tom_B said:But I have to ask, what is 'becil oil'??
lol it is yummy! !
Becil oil is what I put on the pan to cook my egg whites.
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Tom_B said:I was thinking maybe instead of doing my abs on all my other workdays just move all my ab workouts to my "rest" day, would that give me the same reuslts?.
Presently you are trying to put on mass. It is suggested to keep the reps/sets low, unless you are doing HVT vs HIT. So assuming you are doing HIT, keep the reps between 8-10 and do 4 sets per exercise using heavy enough weights. Try and increase the reps as i suggested above. Once you are able to do 12 reps, then increase the weights to a level where you can only do 8reps. Then keep going and try and increase those reps with the higher weight.Tom_B said:Ok sure, lol I was thinking that yesterday that it would be alot easier to do it that way but I'm stupid like that
With my weights I push myself to do the 14 set (sometimes I have to stop at 10 for like 5-7 seconds) then I can barely do the rest of the 12 maybe I could throw in an extra rep or two depending on the type of exercise, does this just mean I'm not resting enough inbetween sets? So stick to my weights I'm ususally using and do 14 reps then increase the weight by say 5 lbs and push out as many reps as posiible? I widh weights were as simple as cardio, I'm always confused
Gwarsh, Tom!! why dont you do this as a cheat meal??!!Tom_B said:Nothing really happened today at school, I do have a B-day party to go to tomorrow, I'm sure I'll look classy bringing my own food and all o well what can ya do? I'm not eating pizza and ice cream!
lol I tried doing the thing where you divide the quotes into sections, so I could answer multiple questions easier, needless to say it didn't workBulkMeUp said:'Becil' is the name of a brand, if i am not mistaken. I think emma was asking about the contents.
I know I'm suppos to have a rest day, but I hate rest daysBulkMeUp said:are you
????? 'rest day' as the term signifies it is a day where you DONOT do any strenous physical activity.
you are supposed to REST. Watch tv, read a book, go hang out with your friends, take up a hobby, learn a new skill, even catch up on school work if you have to, or simply sleep a bit more (as i love doing
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BulkMeUp said:Presently you are trying to put on mass. It is suggested to keep the reps/sets low, unless you are doing HVT vs HIT. So assuming you are doing HIT, keep the reps between 8-10 and do 4 sets per exercise using heavy enough weights. Try and increase the reps as i suggested above. Once you are able to do 12 reps, then increase the weights to a level where you can only do 8reps. Then keep going and try and increase those reps with the higher weight.![]()
That's my problem "moderation" , I know I have a binge problem that is a reult of my ED, when I did my binge last sunday I was plannin gon eat 4000 calories, when I ended up eat 7000BulkMeUp said:Gwarsh, Tom!! why dont you do this as a cheat meal??!!you DO need cheat meals else you might come to a point where you will get so sick and tired and might relapse into a junk food eating binge leter on. But do remember, moderation is the key.
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Guess you figured that out, sucessfully.Tom_B said:lol I tried doing the thing where you divide the quotes into sections, so I could answer multiple questions easier, needless to say it didn't workand I screwed up that entire post, I had to go back and edit stuff. Although I'm trying it witht his post, hopefully it'll work:
You are reading too much in to the whole exercise thing. Rest days are not just about physical rest. You also have to relax your mind. Your CNS has to work a lot more during exercise and needs a break.Tom_B said:I know I'm suppos to have a rest day, but I hate rest days, I feel so bloby and I have no idea what to eat, should I still have whey? where should I have my fruits etc. I'm doing alright so far, I've only gone for a 36 minute walk
ahh who am I kiddin I can't do rest days, "rest" to me is going for hour walks :shrugs: I'm obessed with exercise, so I figured it be better to do all my ab workouts in one day insteads of adding another session of cardio in there..:
HVT = High Volume TrainingTom_B said:whats HVT and HIT?:
Yes. Warm-up sets are required. For your leg day, get on the treadmill (did i hear you scream for joy?Tom_B said:ok I'll do the 8-10 reps thing and always try pushing out more reps, how long should I rest inbetween sets? and should I still have a warm-up set where I can do 14 reps? Still new to the whole weights thing, I wish I never got that damn cable pulley
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So how about you schedule your meals in such a way, that you have a good solid meal just beofre going to the party. That will keep you full for ~3 hours. So at the party you will have more control on what you eat. After the party, if you are still a bit hungry. Then have some cottage cheese. Excess cals for just one meal in one day will not really have much of an impact. You are not going to get obese overnight.Tom_B said:That's my problem "moderation" , I know I have a binge problem that is a reult of my ED, when I did my binge last sunday I was plannin gon eat 4000 calories, when I ended up eat 7000I felt so sick. So I'm still no tat a point wher I can have a "cheat meal" or else I go crazy, besides I like my "clean" food a whole lot more! and if I did the cheat that would mean taking away my cottage cheese and almond butter and nobody better try taking that away form me
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I'm al classy like thatBulkMeUp said:Guess you figured that out, sucessfully.![]()
lol ok I'll take a rest day, it was kinda nice yesterdayBulkMeUp said:You are reading too much in to the whole exercise thing. Rest days are not just about physical rest. You also have to relax your mind. Your CNS has to work a lot more during exercise and needs a break.Not giving it a break is one of the reasons that results in a burnout. And you dont want that to happen. So find something relaxing to do. Something that also makes you mentally pleased while doing it. Be it reading a book, painting..etc. Surely there is school work which also need to be done (as much as you might hate it
). Preparing for that can only help you. Better grades = better job = more money! And more money = independence = the ability to get out of one situation into a better one of your choice.
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yes, yes do did hear a scream of joyBulkMeUp said:HVT = High Volume Training
HIT = High Intensity Training
Yes. Warm-up sets are required. For your leg day, get on the treadmill (did i hear you scream for joy?) for about 5 mins only on a low/mod speed. This is just a warm up. Donot do it so intense that you exhaust your muscles and your weight training suffers.
Rest in between sets is a debatable topic. When i started out on a serious training i had to take 3-4 mins or more between sets. I was a skinny guy with not much energy and besides i didnt pay attention to a proper bulk diet. But now i take 1 min between sets and maybe 2 for some. I take 2-3 mins between exercises. In total for HIT try and keep the total training time 45-60 mins. The beneift of HIT is that it is a time saver. Which is what appeals to me as i dont want to live in the gym. There are other things in life to be done, even if it is just sitting on the couch watching tv and scratching my butt!! .![]()
I'll do a search later throughout the week whenever I get a chance, I've been busy as hell lately lol, I might be able to do it today after work o well I'll seeBulkMeUp said:Presently, stick to compound movements. Dont fuss with isolation movements like concentration curls. Read through the training forum threads for some tips on what you should do. But dont try and incorporate every tip every time you see one. Sort out a routine with the equipment you have and stick to it for a few months. So long as you are growing, it is fine.
Believe me, once you get some serious weight training underway, you will enjoy the rest periods and your body will demand it. Else you will be walking around all sore with plenty of aches and pains and you will stop growing. Keep in mind, you donot grow while training, you grow while resting.
That's the problem I feel I will, besides I just don't like eating junk infront of people.. cause usually if I ever do people stare at me in amazment and it makes me feel...wrong..I don't know how to explain itBulkMeUp said:So how about you schedule your meals in such a way, that you have a good solid meal just beofre going to the party. That will keep you full for ~3 hours. So at the party you will have more control on what you eat. After the party, if you are still a bit hungry. Then have some cottage cheese. Excess cals for just one meal in one day will not really have much of an impact. You are not going to get obese overnight.![]()
Tom_B said:Thanks to BulkMeUP and Emma-leigh's advice I had a pretty good workoutI had no idea I could bench 65lbs (yes thats an acomplishment to me
) I thought I'd kill myself if I tried that much, i'll be happy once I met the 100lbs mark
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Tom_B said:Not to mention I don't know what to do about my running out oatmeal, I need 3 pckgs a day and I only have 2 left,what am I gonna do!
hhmmm... is '"foxy Jeff" the red head flamer you mentioned previously?Tom_B said:The party was so fun! There was twister and movies and the sexual fantasy room and "foxy Jeff" was in there waiting for me , gotta love inside jokes , that was basically all the party was with a little bit of groping so I won't bore you guys with things you wouldn't understand, all you nned to know is I could have taken that bitch Alex out in Twister if it wasn't for all the people complaining the game was too long so we called a draw , noone could bet my crazy Pilate flexability there
Tom_B said:O sweet jesus I have a french test I half rememeber (I thought it was fri, so I spent 40 mins studying for it, needless to say when I found out it was moved to monday and she forgot to tell our class and i was jsut a little pissed, and by a "little" I mean alot!) and I still have ot clean my room, this day isn't gonna end!...tea I need some tea, my lovely caffine
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Tom_B said:P.S. weight is 128.5lbs![]()
lol the sooner the betterBulkMeUp said:Dont worry, you will get there soon and will 'out-grow' your present weights.![]()
I get the instant quaker oatmeal with no sugar added, regular flavour, theres 12 in a box and I use 3 a day so I got 2 boxes for this week, so I should be fine, damn overpriced crapBulkMeUp said:I dont know how much is in a packet. But i get a bag of quaker rolled oats. about 1lb (i think, cant check as i am not home right now). It last me days.
Hells no!BulkMeUp said:hhmmm... is '"foxy Jeff" the red head flamer you mentioned previously?![]()
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BulkMeUp said:Good luck on the french test, monsieur!
I know BOO Ya!BulkMeUp said:
Luke9583 said:
Tom_B said:So thats that I guess, I guess I could looka t the bright side of things, I'll be finely getting rid of the little bastard...o god I really don't want anyone looking at my ass
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