Tom_B said:
I'm gonna be honest .. yes I have been having second thoughts ..
Knew that already!
I'm just not comfortable at this weight .. I look at myself in the mirrior and I have too much mass on my chest / back and becuase of it , it makes my arms look weird and it also makes my stomach actually look bigger , due to how large my rib cage is ..
Your RIB CAGE = bone. Can't change that (not with any amount of cardio or with any amount of muscle mass). If your rib cage is large then it will be large and you are better off filling out the rest of you with some lean muscle so you look balanced, proportional and symmetrical (rather than trying to shrink things that are non-shrinkable - and so you end up weedy everywhere else).
I don't know .. just if people come up to me and touch me , espically if I'm sitting it makes me feel soooo uncomfortable .. I did feel this way back when I was 130lbs , but not to this extent , I hate being in my own skin right now .. I feel huge or something ..
I don't know tom... This sounds like a pretty big psychological issue that you probably need to address... People touching you (as long as it is not strangers) is usually a sign of friendship/intimacy and something people use to convey positive emotions and feelings. It is meant to be a NICE thing...
The fact that you don't like it might be that you have a fear of letting people in - of allowing people to get to know you..?? Or maybe you have a fear of people rejecting you if they find out what you are truly like?
You really need to sit down and think about why it is you don't like it...
even friends at school have been calling me "thunder thighs" or "cow" or "pig" I know there jsut joking and we all laugh , but deep down I don't know .. it kinda gets to me.
Arggg... You have to hand it to kids - they are completely and utterly stupid sometimes (most times).
Way to call the bloke with a history of anorexia "thunder thighs"!!
Firstly - they are wrong and YOU KNOW IT! - So don't try to pick up on it and let it feed your "got to be sad/angry/unhappy about myself thing"...
You can't take it to heart... You need to be more robust than that.
If you don't like it - ask them to stop (or make it clear to them that you don't want them to call you that anymore).
And just seeing all my peers .. and how they look .. I heard one of the really atletic jocks talking to this one girl , and he said he weighs 135lbs , and he's my height (if not taller) , then Corey he's 127lbs , and Andrew whos like 6'2 is like 140lbs , and his brother whos also 6'2 is only 130lbs and etc.. Ugh I just wish so much I could be like that ,
Why? What is so good about a smaller scale number??
Also - Why do you want to be like 'everyone else'?? Is it because you actually LIKE that or is it because you want to BE like them?? You have to question the motivation behind the feelings...
Also - being 130 and 6'2 is down right unhealthy... You know it - and you cann't think that it is attractive in any way to look like a skeleton in a sack... Sick is not beautiful tom...
**sigh** But - I can't convince you to be healthy.... If you have it in your mind that 'thin' is beautiful then nothing I (or adrian) can say will change that. You have to come to the realisation yourself that what some societies protray as 'beauty' is down right disguisting.
eg: in china - think about foot binding (cause small deformed feet- you know, that's lovely

) or in some middle eastern countries where they feel female circumcision is a good thing (you want to read about a barbaric act - then read about this

)...
You have to work out what is important to you - if you want to get strong, lean and healthy then you need to ALLOW yourself to think that strong, lean and healthy IS beautiful....
Also - as Adrian said - you are setting yourself up for a better future. At your age, if you set down the muscle/bone like you are you are going to be able to have it and MAINTAIN it much more easily when you are older (when all your friends finally realise that they want to be strong and lean - and they all hit the gym to do 'bicep curls' and 'bench' and get HYOOGE!!

)...
You are also setting your
health up for the rest of your life... Better insulin sensitivity, better cholesterol levels, healthier heart, better brain function (exercise helps prevent dementia and other things), less chance of injury (stronger, more muscles, better balance/co-ordination)... The list goes on...
I've been comtemplating things .. thinking about doing this recomp for a little while getting my bodyfat % around 11 - 12 percent then going on a cut and going back down to 130 - 135lbs so my bodyfat % would be below 10 , and hopefully I could lose some of my muscle on my chest ..
Personally - I think that, if you can manage it, sit at 140 pounds and do the re-comp... Then see how you feel about how you look before you decide to distroy all your hard work and get yourself back to the weight at which you started this whole process.
honestly I'd be alright at 2400 cals a day , and thats including two big shakes, as my meals

this really doesn't make sense - you need 2800 cals to maintain your weight, but you would be 'alright' on 2400 cals/day....
That is 400 cals lower than maintainence... Which would result in weight loss...
Unless you have been eating 2400 cals/day all along and you have been telling us fibs about how much you are eating??
But I'm said I was gonna do things your guys' way .. I was gonna listen to you guys and stick it out. I promised I was gonna .. I owe it to you guys..
Don't "stick it out for us" tom.... Stick it out for yourself.
I don't want you to do it 'for me'... It kind of defeats the purpose of the whole activity.
I think the main thing is oats .. the oats I have in my shakes , that aren't cooked. My pancake would usually bloat me .. but lately I've started to cook it really long on a low temp , so the inside is nice and cooked as well , and lately not really any bloating from it

Then again it could be all the dairy i have , but I need that dairy cause of my bones .. ugh I don't know. I think I'll keep my diet the same , I have a doc appointment on Tues , so I'll get referred to an immunatologist, and from then figure out whats going on ..
See the doc and listen to what he suggests. If you don't find an allergy or some other disease (eg: IBD) you could try a few things yourself.
eg:
replace your oats with rolled rye (gluten free) and see if that helps.
replace your cottage cheese with egg-whites/eggs or other proteins and see if that helps
OO .. okay I'll stop , I'd usually have some with my potato fries , and my chicken / broccoli .. I'l reduce. LOL it isn't giving my a laxative effect though!! god I wish it would maybe I wouldn't be cramped up for half the day
Ok , no digetive aids

- would this also include Beano as they help digest your carbs into glucose??
That is fine. But no enema's or laxitives ok.
Well I just thought on a recomp I was suppos to be eating SLIGHTLY under maintenance or right on. Now my miantenance is 2800 cals. So I'm eating 2816 from my foods .. now add on
~15 cals of Jam
~ 15 cals from miricle whip
~ X amonut of cals from lemon juice
~ X amonut of cals from vinnegar
~ 15 cals from SF ketchup
I'm actually eating 2900 cals which is a little OVER my maintence , so if I reduced cals to 2700 , I'd actually be eating 2800 in the the end
**sigh**
Do what you think is right tom....