Tom's On a Recomp

[Tom_B]

Check out this thread. You might want to reconsider your milk with whey. Try dropping the milk completly and sub with water and see if that makes a diff.

How long does it take the body to adjust to protein intake? If it do?

I think what there referring to in that is the rate at which your PWO is absorbed. Many people here are against milk PWO as they beleive it GREATLY slows the digestion of you PWO shake. But as Emma's explained before that in your stomach the milk seperates from everything else, only delaying digestion SLIGHTLY, not enough to make an impact.
Or at least I'm pretty sure that's whats it's referring too , I know Jodi and Emma disagree greatly over skim milk PWO ..

 

[Emma-Leigh]

New PWO
- 250ml of skim milk
-250 ml of the juice (SEPERATE LOL)
- 30G rolled oats
- .75 scoops of whey
Macros - 411 cals
3G fat
71G carbs (2G fibre)
25G of protein

This looks good.

Nevermind got better yogurt , this stuff was the best I could find.

Ingredients -Milke ingredients , active bacterial cultutres (S. Thermophillus, L Bulgaricus , L. Acidophilius, Bifidobacterium SPP. ) Pectin.

LOL there's some big words in there , but hoepfully it's good??
It's breakdown is -
per 3/4 a cup
91Cals
9G protein
.2G of fat
12G of Carbs (8.2G of sugars ... but then it says 0G of fibre , 0G of starch??)

LOL - the big words (cultures) are... the bugs they put into your yoghurt... Don't worry - they are REALLY good for you (and may actually HELP your tummy bloat!!).

I imagine the pectin is an insoluble fibre they put in to thicken it somewhat...

So how's this for new Pre workout
1 cup of skim milk
1 cup of yogurt
1/2 scoop of whey
30G of oats

- 365 cals
3G fat
51G of fibre
32G protein

This looks ok... (although I think you ment 51g carbs?? )
I would increase the oats to 0.5 cups (40g) - you want a little more carbs pre-workout.

 

[Tom_B]

Doc appointement

Well my doctor has diagnosed me with IBS, or at least he's 99.9% sure ... he said I fit the symptoms perfectly, he also said that he dosen't believe it might be an alergic reaction to certain foods as instead of constipation I'd more than likely having direhia. He said he needs to schedule a gastronemical doctor appointment for me, and then me and that doctor can go about a course of action to help relieve my symptoms as there is no cure for it ..
But guess what. I asked when that doc appointment will roughly be in .. he said ooo in about a month or so - so that means another month of this.

He said the only thing he can think about that might help me in the meantime would be to increase my fiber intake more, he said try taking metamucil as it'll increase the bulk of my stool. He said there's very little chance it might help me though .. ugh.
He told me about this new pill or something that's out but has only been tested on women (as IBS mostly affects them) so he would be iffy about giving it to me ..

He gave me some phamplets to read up on IBS .. it does sound like I have it .. right down to mentioning my belching.
They said it happens to people mostly becuase of emotional stress which would make sense since I've been this way ever since the hospital, but it's recently starting to get really worse .. but I guess that would make sense with everythign that's been recently happening. It says it can also become like a cycle
emotional upset ---> physical discomfort ----> emotinal upset etc.

So I don't know what to do ... the phamplet says some stuff I can change to my diet, it says -
-Gotta eat slowly
- increase fiber
-eat more veggies for natural fiber
-drink plently of fluids, fruits and veggie juices , except around meal time
-don't over - eat
-avoid red meat , white sugar (would explain why I had MASSIVE pains on saturday), caffine, carbonated beverages. Also it says to avoid nuts, corn or seed products. And avoid laxatives.
-it also says to decrease fats in my meals

So I'm gonna take out the green tea from my diet I guess .. I've also finding that drinking less water kinda helps bloat wise .. so I'm decreasing that to 2.5L a day (not too bad is it?? ..) Umm should I increase my fiber?? I mean I've eaten up to 80G a day before and that hasn't helped .. right now with the changes with the yogurt / juice it's stand at around 31G (not including veggies)
And should I be decreasing fats??? .. then what am I suppos to replace the cals with ... *sigh* and if I can't eat nuts or seed related products then how am I suppos to get poly fats?? , honestly I don't find nuts hurt me when eating them .. I think I'll eat them twice. Walnuts for lunch , PB for bed.

Anyways so that was that.

I also asked about my gas , he said that there is an antbiotic he can give me to kill the bacteria in my body , but he said he'd rather not and that's not highly recommended ..

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Well today school was akward ..

??? Why? Is everything ok?

Me Sarah and Corey went to thte theatres then got a taxi home .. well I kinda farted in the taxi ... and I noticed the cab driver rolling down his window then sarah went "O Lewie you farted!!!" and the taxi guy went "I know! Holy fuck thats why I'm rolling down my window and ours .. o hell I'm rolling down all four!" Then Corey goes "I'm sorry he's on this diet thingy and it dosen't react well with his body" Then the taxi guy goes "Well I knew he had to be on something , fucking sweet jesus what crawled up your ass and died?!" "Well at least you can't say your shit dosen't stink" "holy fuck I thought my shit stuck when I was drunk but god that smells worse then after I was drunka dn had a bigMac attack" LOL omg we were all laughign so hard liek you have no idea it was the most funniest thign every we went in the house and jsut fell to the floor laughing!! ROFL!!

LOL - I nearly choke on my green tea reading that!! That was great!!

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Well my doctor has diagnosed me with IBS, or at least he's 99.9% sure ... he said I fit the symptoms perfectly, he also said that he dosen't believe it might be an alergic reaction to certain foods as instead of constipation I'd more than likely having direhia. He said he needs to schedule a gastronemical doctor appointment for me, and then me and that doctor can go about a course of action to help relieve my symptoms as there is no cure for it ..
But guess what. I asked when that doc appointment will roughly be in .. he said ooo in about a month or so - so that means another month of this.

He said the only thing he can think about that might help me in the meantime would be to increase my fiber intake more, he said try taking metamucil as it'll increase the bulk of my stool. He said there's very little chance it might help me though .. ugh.
He told me about this new pill or something that's out but has only been tested on women (as IBS mostly affects them) so he would be iffy about giving it to me ..

He gave me some phamplets to read up on IBS .. it does sound like I have it .. right down to mentioning my belching.
They said it happens to people mostly becuase of emotional stress which would make sense since I've been this way ever since the hospital, but it's recently starting to get really worse .. but I guess that would make sense with everythign that's been recently happening. It says it can also become like a cycle
emotional upset ---> physical discomfort ----> emotinal upset etc.

So I don't know what to do ... the phamplet says some stuff I can change to my diet, it says -
-Gotta eat slowly
- increase fiber
-eat more veggies for natural fiber
-drink plently of fluids, fruits and veggie juices , except around meal time
-don't over - eat
-avoid red meat , white sugar (would explain why I had MASSIVE pains on saturday), caffine, carbonated beverages. Also it says to avoid nuts, corn or seed products. And avoid laxatives.
-it also says to decrease fats in my meals

So I'm gonna take out the green tea from my diet I guess .. I've also finding that drinking less water kinda helps bloat wise .. so I'm decreasing that to 2.5L a day (not too bad is it?? ..) Umm should I increase my fiber?? I mean I've eaten up to 80G a day before and that hasn't helped .. right now with the changes with the yogurt / juice it's stand at around 31G (not including veggies)
And should I be decreasing fats??? .. then what am I suppos to replace the cals with ... *sigh* and if I can't eat nuts or seed related products then how am I suppos to get poly fats?? , honestly I don't find nuts hurt me when eating them .. I think I'll eat them twice. Walnuts for lunch , PB for bed.

Anyways so that was that.

I also asked about my gas , he said that there is an antbiotic he can give me to kill the bacteria in my body , but he said he'd rather not and that's not highly recommended ..

Tom - I have to go at the moment and I will reply to this later.

You have to remember that this is directed at the GENERAL PUBLIC - and because your food in terms of fats etc is a little different it might not be all that related to you....

But I'll explain everything later ok - I am REALLY late for work!!

 

[Tom_B]

This looks good.


LOL - the big words (cultures) are... the bugs they put into your yoghurt... Don't worry - they are REALLY good for you (and may actually HELP your tummy bloat!!).

I imagine the pectin is an insoluble fibre they put in to thicken it somewhat...

Ok thanks Emma

This looks ok... (although I think you ment 51g carbs?? )
I would increase the oats to 0.5 cups (40g) - you want a little more carbs pre-workout.

LOL yup 51G of carbs not fibre.
Umm well I drank it today .. yogurt and skim milk DO NOT mix well together in the shake it was pretty bad so how's this instead -

60G rolled oats
1 cup of yogurt
.75 scoops of whey
413 cals
5G fat
59G of carbs
30G protein

This'll also help my cal level , did up my daily stuff today with the changes I made and I was 100 cals off , so I'm gonna have to eat some fiber 1 before bed to bring my cals up.

 

[Tom_B]

??? Why? Is everything ok?

Well it's jsut with brent's death everyone's crying in class, the teachers are trying to stay strong and not break down .. were doing like no work. It's jus tthe general atmosphere .. it's so sad and depressing...

LOL - I nearly choke on my green tea reading that!! That was great!!

LOL it was so funny! At one point Sarah was like "O god I can't breath" cause we were laughing so hard , then the taxi guy goes "Well you should I got enough fucking oxygen coming in!" And this taxi guy is also SPEEDING by the way like going 10 - 20 over the speed limit cause he's trying to get us out so fast!ROFL and Corey , polite old corey's just sitting there saying "Were deeply sorry" and stuff LOL

 

[Tom_B]

Tom - I have to go at the moment and I will reply to this later.

You have to remember that this is directed at the GENERAL PUBLIC - and because your food in terms of fats etc is a little different it might not be all that related to you....

But I'll explain everything later ok - I am REALLY late for work!!

Thanks Emma

LOL haha you have to go to work - I didn't today I got to stay home ....while haivng to type of that stupid report about Shania Twain that took me 3 hours

 

[Tom_B]

June 7

Training -Step class 40 minutes

This was crap .. well in a sense. I still got a great workout, lots and lots of sweating but of course my stomach had to act up for it, so I coulnd't really focus on the movements and kept messing up , I was trying to keep up with all the combos while like holding my stomach - I think the instructor got a little mad at me for messing up so much

Diet -
Meal 1 - oats , EW , CC , banana, olive oil
Meal 2 - chicken , olive oil , Sweet Potato , apple, broccoli
Meal 3 - tuna , lettuce , apple ,olive oil , pearl barley
Meal 4 - skim milk , yogurt, oats , whey
*PW* skim milk , oats , whey , grape/strawberry juice juice was sooo yummy
Meal 5 - home made muesli mix (rye / barley / oat flakes) , skim milk , EW , olive oil, fishies
Meal 6 - PB , CC , fishies, fibre 1


Macros ~
Calories - 2796
Fat - 76G (8G sat)
Carbs - 337G (32G fibre)
Protein - 197G


Water -2.5L
Additonals - SF maple syrup , lemon juice, , SF ketchup, canyenne pepper powder , garlic powder , cinnamon, SF jam
Sleep - 7 and a half

busy day , had to do that stupid project today , had the appointement and had my step class.
Well the project took me 3 hours , my mom forgot about my appointement so I was late and had to take a taxi, and they changed the time for the step class so I went to the gym 30 minutes early and looked like a tard.

Sarah's on her way over now , she just got back from the viewing for Brent (she knew him) she took it really hard .. she almost fell over and was shaking etc. So she's on her way over until 10PM , hopefully I can cheer her up ..

 

[BulkMeUp]

I think what there referring to in that is the rate at which your PWO is absorbed. ..

I think he was asking about having issues with the whey. When i did milk+oats+fruit+whey on my bulk, i did notice a diff when i now do water+oats+whey+fruit. So you may want to try that combo to see if it helps youe bloat.

I am not saying milk is bad and is not anabolic or anything of that sort. But if it (+whey) is causing a lot of bloat and discomfort, then maybe it is best to leave it out for now. You can slowly reintroduce it later to find your tolerence level.

 

[BulkMeUp]

OMG she looks soo pretty in that red / blackish dress

Ok, Those are pics for a photo shoot. She does look good here. But I am talking about her 'cowgirl meets crack whore' costumes that she wears on her shows and videos.

 

[BulkMeUp]

and Corey , polite old corey's just sitting there saying "Were deeply sorry" and stuff LOL

 

[Tom_B]

I think he was asking about having issues with the whey. When i did milk+oats+fruit+whey on my bulk, i did notice a diff when i now do water+oats+whey+fruit. So you may want to try that combo to see if it helps youe bloat.

I am not saying milk is bad and is not anabolic or anything of that sort. But if it (+whey) is causing a lot of bloat and discomfort, then maybe it is best to leave it out for now. You can slowly reintroduce it later to find your tolerence level.

Well right now I'm soooo pumped!! That yogurt I bought is really helping my tummy issues and dosen't bloat me!!! (well slightly but not to a painful degree) and the same goes for my new PWO , you were probabaly right about the bananas So right now I think the milk is fine.
Besides I'm very iffy about taking dairy away from my diet .. I need all I can get for my bones. Remember I have issues with my hip bones and my doc said my level of calcium now should be fine ..

 

[Tom_B]

Ok, Those are pics for a photo shoot. She does look good here. But I am talking about her 'cowgirl meets crack whore' costumes that she wears on her shows and videos.

I love all her outfits. My report ended up being 1,813 words when it was only suppos to be 600 - 700 LOL!
I espically like her outfit in "Man I feel like a women"

 

[Tom_B]

June 8

Training -Back - Thickness
V-bar bar pulldown on the floor - *30lbs* 1x12 , *80lbs* 3x8 , 1x6 form gave out
Long bar seated Row - *50lbs* 1x12
Seated Row - *70lbs* 2x12
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown - *70lbs* 1x12 , 1x9 , 1x7
One arm DB Rows - *25lbs 1x8 , *20lbs* 1x11
DB Rows - *15lbs* 1x12
DB Preacher Curls - *20lb* 1x3 DROP 815lbs* 1x12 , 2x12 , 1x8
DB '21's' - *12lbs* 2x7/7/7

Well this was a good workout , took everything really slow. I experimented with different exercises today .. so far I like the regualr seated Row , and just DB Rows (not one arm). So I'll be doing those 2 from now on.

Diet -
Meal 1 - yogurt, oats , whey
*PW* skim milk , oats , whey , grape/strawberry juice
Meal 2 - oats , EW , CC , banana, olive oil
Meal 3 - tuna , lettuce , apple ,olive oil , pearl barley
Meal 4 - chicken , olive oil , Sweet Potato , apple, broccoli
Meal 5 - home made muesli mix (rye / barley / oat flakes) , yogurt , EW , olive oil, fishies
Meal 6 - PB , CC , fishies,


Macros ~
Calories - 2781
Fat - 87G (9G sat)
Carbs - 324G (31G fibre)
Protein - 180G


Water -2.5L
Additonals - SF maple syrup , lemon juice, SF ketchup, canyenne pepper powder , garlic powder , cinnamon, SF jam, ultra low fat miricle whip , vinnegar, SF gum
Sleep - 6 hours

sleep I need

 

[Tom_B]

dilema

Ok on Friday night I'm apparently walking this relay thing to support research for Cancer ..
So umm I have to some at 8:30pm to around 10pm , then I have go again at 5:30am to 7am .. Now I'm doing this with corey an dSarah so there jsut gonna stay the night on Sat , but the thing is , is that we might not even go to bed , so what am I suppos to do meal wise?? And we might even walk more than that depending how nice it's out ..
Should I like add extra meals or break some of my meals in half and spread them out more?? Espically if I don't even go to bed ..
Or should I say hell and not even stress it , worry about my meals for the day , then stay up as long as I want have fun , and if I get hungry eat something. I don't know ..

 

[BulkMeUp]

Besides I'm very iffy about taking dairy away from my diet .. I need all I can get for my bones. Remember I have issues with my hip bones and my doc said my level of calcium now should be fine ..

You can suppliment with calcium. Emma has posted a from of calcium that is better absorbed.

But if you dont want to take out the milk, then another cause would be the whey. If you are using concentrate, then that could be causing issues. You could go for isolate, but that will cost you more.

 

[BulkMeUp]

Ok on Friday night I'm apparently walking this relay thing to .

Make it a cheat day Dont forget to carry a bottle of water. SIP the water, dont chug it down else you will have to stop to pee frequently and still feel thirsty. Also carry some snacks (oatmeal cookies, maybe ). Dont fuss about not getting in your protein and cals for the day. Just make it an enjoyable day.

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Ok on Friday night I'm apparently walking this relay thing to support research for Cancer ...

Yay you!! That is an excellent cause!

Or should I say hell and not even stress it , worry about my meals for the day , then stay up as long as I want have fun , and if I get hungry eat something.

Don't worry about it too much - 1 evening is not going to have too much of an effect on anything - just go out and have fun.

 

[Katia7]

Well today school was akward ..
Me Sarah and Corey went to thte theatres then got a taxi home .. well I kinda farted in the taxi ... and I noticed the cab driver rolling down his window then sarah went "O Lewie you farted!!!" and the taxi guy went "I know! Holy fuck thats why I'm rolling down my window and ours .. o hell I'm rolling down all four!" Then Corey goes "I'm sorry he's on this diet thingy and it dosen't react well with his body" Then the taxi guy goes "Well I knew he had to be on something , fucking sweet jesus what crawled up your ass and died?!" "Well at least you can't say your shit dosen't stink" "holy fuck I thought my shit stuck when I was drunk but god that smells worse then after I was drunka dn had a bigMac attack" LOL omg we were all laughign so hard liek you have no idea it was the most funniest thign every we went in the house and jsut fell to the floor laughing!! ROFL!!

OMG!!! LMAO!!! I just busted out laughing! And still can't stop

LOL it was so funny! At one point Sarah was like "O god I can't breath" cause we were laughing so hard , then the taxi guy goes "Well you should I got enough fucking oxygen coming in!" And this taxi guy is also SPEEDING by the way like going 10 - 20 over the speed limit cause he's trying to get us out so fast!ROFL and Corey , polite old corey's just sitting there saying "Were deeply sorry" and stuff LOL

And this added to it. Now, I can't stop laughing

On the seriouse note (although it's kind of hard at this point lol).. I know all about digestive problems.The only Drs who were able to help me were naturapaths. Regular Drs just name everything IBS and say that you'll just have to learn to live with it. When there's always a reason for it. From what it sounds like, you might have cought some kind of bacteria, but be careful with antibiotics, taking too many of them can cause candida overgrowth. I'd go see a naturapath (just make sure they're qualified.. research them really well).

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Right - anyway... I thought as much... That is why I suggested this:

See the doc and listen to what he suggests. If you don't find an allergy or some other disease (eg: IBD) you could try a few things yourself.

in this post. IBD = irritable bowel disease = IBS.

Well my doctor has diagnosed me with IBS, or at least he's 99.9% sure ..... He said he needs to schedule a gastronemical doctor appointment for me, and then me and that doctor can go about a course of action to help relieve my symptoms...

Another appointment is probably needed. IBS can mimic something called Diveticular disease so you probably want to rule out that as a cause as well. Gluten intolerence is another one - but because you used to eat gluten without a problem I would not think it would be this.

You might need to get a few gastro investigations done (like a colonoscopy) - so be warned!

But guess what. I asked when that doc appointment will roughly be in .. he said ooo in about a month or so - so that means another month of this.

Unfortunately IBS has no cure. However - don't get too upset - it can be managed. It is no longer an 'unknown' - you know what you are dealing with now so you can take steps to decrease the problem.

He said the only thing he can think about that might help me in the meantime would be to increase my fiber intake more, he said try taking metamucil as it'll increase the bulk of my stool. He said there's very little chance it might help me though .. ugh.

Yeah - Fibre helps for some - but for others fibre can actually make things worse! So just be careful. It also depends on the TYPE of fibre. If you want to go for a supplement then use things like raw psyllium husks (not metamucil - it has added sugar), xanthum gum or gar gum (to add to your food - they are actually really good when mixed with whey/cc and make a pudding type thing! ). Your wheat bran/fibre one cereal are a different type of fibre which can actually make it worse (you want soluble fibre and these are forms of insoluble fibre)... There are also tablets you can take - fructooligosaccharides - which can help as well.

I thought the yoghurt would help too! So it is good too hear they are having an effect (the cultures can actually be very good). Do you guys have 'probiotics' over there? Those things that are near the yoghurt that you drink each day and they contain lots of yoghurt cultures?? This stuff called Yakult. Because they might be another helpful tool you can use. You can get 'sugar-free' ones over here... This stuff.

You could also replace some of your milk with more yoghurt (and go into the supermarket and look for the most natural, highest culture stuff you can find - no added sugar, fat-free... Like this stuff [img=http://www.jalna.com.au/images_menu_pages/images/FtFreeNt_1kg.jpg]Here[/img]

You might want to swap your broccoli for another vegetable too. Too much gas forming foods = worse bloat. So that means stay away from legumes, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, garlic, onions etc etc. You could selectively remove or add certain foods to your diet and see which ones make things worse and which ones help.

Fishies are good - so consider increasing these to 8-10 caps/day... They can decrease the inflammation that is sometimes associated with IBS.

Also - another gastro-intestinal 'helper' is glutamine... I am not sure if I told you but one of the reason why supplementing with this for your muscles is not really effective is because your intestines take up ~85% of the glutamine!! And it can help in repairing and restoring your GI lining. So look into this as well.

They said it happens to people mostly becuase of emotional stress which would make sense since I've been this way ever since the hospital, but it's recently starting to get really worse .. but I guess that would make sense with everythign that's been recently happening. It says it can also become like a cycle
emotional upset ---> physical discomfort ----> emotinal upset etc.

Yeah - emotions certainly has a component in it. So you got to work on calming yourself down! De-stress, do some meditation, stop running around like a headless chook! ;P Start to lose the frantic worry type thing you have - It WILL help!

So I don't know what to do ... the phamplet says some stuff I can change to my diet, it says -
-Gotta eat slowly
- increase fiber
-eat more veggies for natural fiber
-drink plently of fluids, fruits and veggie juices , except around meal time
-don't over - eat
-avoid red meat , white sugar (would explain why I had MASSIVE pains on saturday), caffine, carbonated beverages. Also it says to avoid nuts, corn or seed products. And avoid laxatives.
-it also says to decrease fats in my meals

Now - you have to remember that this is for the 'general public'... So things like "increase fibre" and "decrease fats" need to be veiwed from that type of light. Most people hardly get 10g of fibre and have >100g of fats a day! So you are not doing too badly with your diet at the moment.

Maybe aim for for ~40-50g of fibre at first and see if that helps. If it does, you could increase to 60g. I think that would be enough. If you get too much fibre you can inhibit the absorption of minerals/vitamins and protein.

Fat wise - 80g is fine for the moment. You say that 'carbs' make it worse, so you need to get the calories from somewhere and too much protein will probably have excess gas effects.... If you find it is not getting better then you could decrease fats again - but you would want to increase carbs... And you could maybe consider more yoghurt as a source of this?

So I'm gonna take out the green tea from my diet I guess .. I've also finding that drinking less water kinda helps bloat wise .. so I'm decreasing that to 2.5L a day (not too bad is it?? ..)

Maybe 3L (especially on cardio days)?? Would that be ok? 2.5L is really not enough. And green tea is actually helpful --> so leave 1 or 2 cups a day....

I also asked about my gas , he said that there is an antbiotic he can give me to kill the bacteria in my body , but he said he'd rather not and that's not highly recommended ..

NO NO NO!! Don't take AB!! It will kill the GOOD bacteria!!! Stick to probiotics!

LOL - oh yeah - and they are getting REALLY, REALLY good results with a new treatment for the disease... But you are not going to like it! You have been warned!

 

[Tom_B]

You can suppliment with calcium. Emma has posted a from of calcium that is better absorbed.

But if you dont want to take out the milk, then another cause would be the whey. If you are using concentrate, then that could be causing issues. You could go for isolate, but that will cost you more.

Well on occasion I take calcium citrate supps , they just get damn expensive I just don't want to risk it Espically with me now tryign to increase my fibre intake I'm scared they won't be absorbed properly, not to mention real sources of calcium are gonna be better anyway A pill could never take it's place ..
I wouldn't be so uptight about it if I knew my bones were in good shape .. but I won't be getting another BMD scan for a while .. and my hip bones ere 14% below a normal range for someone my age .. so even if I did increase it by the 14% they'd still be at the lowest end of the healthy range and I don't want that , I want some damn strong bones LOL - not to mention as a bonus all this dairy is doing wonders for my teeth , there getting nice and white - not to mention stronger. A while ago before I went on my bulk and use to make whey ice-cream for PWO I put the spon in it took a bit and one of my teeth just scraped the spoon , just a little. Well it was enough though to chip it - I have really fragile teeth. A couple years ago I was hit in the mouth by a payhone and my front tooth snapped in half (not sure if I told that story before but it was funny LOL)

 

[Tom_B]

Make it a cheat day Dont forget to carry a bottle of water. SIP the water, dont chug it down else you will have to stop to pee frequently and still feel thirsty. Also carry some snacks (oatmeal cookies, maybe ). Dont fuss about not getting in your protein and cals for the day. Just make it an enjoyable day.

Cheat day would be fun - although I refuse to have them anymore - just one cheat meal a week LOL - espically with my recomping .. it was fine during my bulk.
But I think on Saturday our plan was to go out buy LOADS of strawberries and whiped cream and eat those - never had strawberries and whiped cream before , wonder if it'll be good .. sounds yummy

 

[Tom_B]

OMG!!! LMAO!!! I just busted out laughing! And still can't stop


And this added to it. Now, I can't stop laughing

LOL it was soo funny, I hope we get that taxi driver everytime LOL

On the seriouse note (although it's kind of hard at this point lol).. I know all about digestive problems.The only Drs who were able to help me were naturapaths. Regular Drs just name everything IBS and say that you'll just have to learn to live with it. When there's always a reason for it. From what it sounds like, you might have cought some kind of bacteria, but be careful with antibiotics, taking too many of them can cause candida overgrowth. I'd go see a naturapath (just make sure they're qualified.. research them really well).

Thanks, I can only imagaine how bad your digestive probs are with all those food allergies - damn digestive problems ..
I know there has to be something to get rid of this .. there has to be, yesterday i was in soo much pain I thought I was gonna pass out .. and my doctor expects me to wait another month before gonna about a course of action?? i gave the office a call today and told them I can't wait another month and there has to be SOMETHING , ANYTHING they can give me in the meantime , cause it's unbearable. Espically with exams starting in 3 days, how am I suppos to be studying if I'm in constant pain and can't even focus .. ugh.
Thanks for the advice about the naturapath, problem is , is that I'm not sure if theres any around here ...I do think I remember though last year in P.D.R. class we were talking about food allergies and this one girl mentioned that doctors could do nothing for her , so she went to a naturapath and they used all these remedies or something and they actually worked and she dosen't have any problems anymore .. gonna start asking around to see if there's any in town ..

 

[Tom_B]

Right - anyway... I thought as much... That is why I suggested this:
in this post. IBD = irritable bowel disease = IBS.

Thanks Emma for taking your time to reply to this .. I'm gonna be going out in about 2 hours and start searching for everything you mentioned that be be useful , thank you.

Another appointment is probably needed. IBS can mimic something called Diveticular disease so you probably want to rule out that as a cause as well. Gluten intolerence is another one - but because you used to eat gluten without a problem I would not think it would be this.

You might need to get a few gastro investigations done (like a colonoscopy) - so be warned!

I have another one set up for tues. I'm gonna try and get him to perscribe something until I get into see that other doctor .. yesterday I felt like I was gonna pass out. He warned me too about the gastro investagations - I'm scared about that LOL - he said though the guy might not do it , because my sytpoms are so clearly IBS. I think either way I might ask for it .. I want to make sure ..
I was talking to my dad (not biological one) and he said that before he had the same prob , bloating , constipation, and adominal pain. He got checked out bya ll these specialists and one of them put him on laxatives I'm pretty sure along with another pill thingy. So he passed me over some "mineral oil laxative stuff" - I didn't take any as I remembered you said not too .. even the phamplets I have say not to. But he wouldn't believe me and was saying " then why specialist put me on it etcc" But I still didn't take any.

Unfortunately IBS has no cure. However - don't get too upset - it can be managed. It is no longer an 'unknown' - you know what you are dealing with now so you can take steps to decrease the problem.

THANK GOD!

Yeah - Fibre helps for some - but for others fibre can actually make things worse! So just be careful. It also depends on the TYPE of fibre. If you want to go for a supplement then use things like raw psyllium husks (not metamucil - it has added sugar), xanthum gum or gar gum (to add to your food - they are actually really good when mixed with whey/cc and make a pudding type thing! ). Your wheat bran/fibre one cereal are a different type of fibre which can actually make it worse (you want soluble fibre and these are forms of insoluble fibre)... There are also tablets you can take - fructooligosaccharides - which can help as well.

Okay , I'm gonan go out and get some. I remember seeing the xanthum gum and psyllium before .. right now my fibre intake is 32G (not including veggies) so gonna defintly need to supp with them. I do remeber seeing "sugar free metamucil" before , as I remember looking into it before and found out it has lots of sugar .
LOL I have no sweet jesus what -fructooligosaccharides- are, I can't even prounouce it!! Maybe I'll write it down and go to a pharmasict and ask if they have any or have heard of it before , theres a pharmacy in my grocery store

I thought the yoghurt would help too! So it is good too hear they are having an effect (the cultures can actually be very good). Do you guys have 'probiotics' over there? Those things that are near the yoghurt that you drink each day and they contain lots of yoghurt cultures?? This stuff called Yakult. Because they might be another helpful tool you can use. You can get 'sugar-free' ones over here... This stuff.

I love my yogurt , can't eat it alone , but mixed with whey , and a muesli mix (and sometimes PB) .. so good! I wonder how it would taste with SF maple syrup - I'm ready to experment with it LOL.
I'm not sure if we have probiotics .. the stuff next to yogurt here for us is cheese and butter LOL. But I'll look around for them .. I'll probabaly ask the paramcist / food helper person about them ..

You could also replace some of your milk with more yoghurt (and go into the supermarket and look for the most natural, highest culture stuff you can find - no added sugar, fat-free... Like this stuff [img=http://www.jalna.com.au/images_menu_pages/images/FtFreeNt_1kg.jpg]Here[/img]

I'm gonan be going through my diet and re-arranging some stuff to include more yogurt and increase my fibre ..
As for the most natural yogurt .. I'll look. But I think that might be the only one ..

You might want to swap your broccoli for another vegetable too. Too much gas forming foods = worse bloat. So that means stay away from legumes, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, garlic, onions etc etc. You could selectively remove or add certain foods to your diet and see which ones make things worse and which ones help.

Ok .. hmm what's another veggie I think - this'll be a toughy

Fishies are good - so consider increasing these to 8-10 caps/day... They can decrease the inflammation that is sometimes associated with IBS.

Ok shall increase to 10

Also - another gastro-intestinal 'helper' is glutamine... I am not sure if I told you but one of the reason why supplementing with this for your muscles is not really effective is because your intestines take up ~85% of the glutamine!! And it can help in repairing and restoring your GI lining. So look into this as well.

Ok .. Will look into this as well - will see how expensive it is ..

Yeah - emotions certainly has a component in it. So you got to work on calming yourself down! De-stress, do some meditation, stop running around like a headless chook! ;P Start to lose the frantic worry type thing you have - It WILL help!

LOL ... I will soon be able to do this , no more school! = no more stress from there and all the sleep I want!!! - I just have to get through 3 exams .. o god I'm starting to stress about those , my HUGE math one is in 3 days and I don't even ahve my papers organized!! The average for this exam is 45%..

Now - you have to remember that this is for the 'general public'... So things like "increase fibre" and "decrease fats" need to be veiwed from that type of light. Most people hardly get 10g of fibre and have >100g of fats a day! So you are not doing too badly with your diet at the moment.

Maybe aim for for ~40-50g of fibre at first and see if that helps. If it does, you could increase to 60g. I think that would be enough. If you get too much fibre you can inhibit the absorption of minerals/vitamins and protein.

Fat wise - 80g is fine for the moment. You say that 'carbs' make it worse, so you need to get the calories from somewhere and too much protein will probably have excess gas effects.... If you find it is not getting better then you could decrease fats again - but you would want to increase carbs... And you could maybe consider more yoghurt as a source of this?

Ok .. gonna increase fibre and when reworking my diet I might possibly lower fats a little and add more yogurt .. Also .. ukmm what am I suppos to use as a source of polyunsaturated fats .. I seem to be fine with 1 TBSP of nuts a day but thats it right now , I've found my tolerance level (Thanks Adrian ) ..

Maybe 3L (especially on cardio days)?? Would that be ok? 2.5L is really not enough. And green tea is actually helpful --> so leave 1 or 2 cups a day....

Ok .. incresed to 3L and had a glass of green tea (thank god I can still drink this stuff , I love it soo much!!)
I hope 3L isn't too low though .. I'm jsut have a prob drinking all my water ..

NO NO NO!! Don't take AB!! It will kill the GOOD bacteria!!! Stick to probiotics!

ok

LOL - oh yeah - and they are getting REALLY, REALLY good results with a new treatment for the disease... But you are not going to like it! You have been warned!

OOOO hells no!!! That is probably the most disgustingest thing I've ever read (excpet possible female circumsion ) - it's bad enough I'm eating bugs in my yogurt (I just keep telling myself there not bugs , and as long as I don't think about there not there .. o god I'm thinking about it ) I'm REALLY REALLY hoping it doesn't get to the point where there's worms inside me

 

[Tom_B]

May 9

Training -Cardio - 30 minutes of step (not in a class on my own) and 10 minutes of treadmill

Well I wasn't able to get into the step calss at night because it was all booked up , but I thought "So what , I'm gonna do it anyways " LOL so I went in the morning got a step thing and just did some random step moves , messed up ... lots LOL , almost fell off like 5 times and I put on two extra step panel things to up intesity. I got a couple of weird looks lol. And it was instense LOL made sure I didn't stop moving - I wanted to do 40 mins of this but after 30mins I got a really really sharp pain in my right rib. So went to the treadmill and did this
- 1:30 at 10MPH (then got the sharp pain)
- 3:30 at 6MPH
- 2:00 at 10MPH (got sharp pain)
- 3 :00 at 4MPH at 5% incline

It was fun and sweaty

Diet -
Meal 1 - yogurt, oats , whey
*PW* skim milk , oats , whey , grape/strawberry juice
Meal 2 - oats , EW , CC , banana, olive oil
Meal 3 - home made muesli mix (rye / barley / oat flakes) , PB , whey , yogrut (I would have to eat this meal out of the house so I had to make it portable , hence the whey and PB)
Meal 4 - tuna , lettuce , apple ,olive oil , pearl barley, fishies
Meal 5 - EW , olive oil , Sweet Potato , orange,
Meal 6 - PB , CC , fishies,


Macros ~
Calories - 2781
Fat - 87G (9G sat)
Carbs - 324G (31G fibre)
Protein - 180G


Water -3L
Additonals - SF maple syrup , lemon juice, cinnamon,ultra low fat miricle whip , vinnegar, SF gum
Sleep - 6 hours

yesterday was fun , Me, sarah and Corey went out and got Sarah's nails done , she got a french manicure , so pretty. Were also getting Corey's eyebrows waxed Tues LOL!! should be fun. My tummy problems were really really bad yesterday

 

[Tom_B]

May 10

Training -Hammies + Glutes + abs
SLDL - *35lbs* 1x12 , *115lbs* 4x8
Split Squats - *85lbs* 1x11 , 1x10 , 1x7
Glute Ham Raises - 1x4 , 1x3 , 1x2

Circuit -
Ball Pikes - 1x12 , 1x10 , 1x6
Planks on Toes - 3x 30 seconds
Swiss Ball Bridges - 3x 30 seconds

GREAT workout this morning. had to do SLDL's on a different shorter bar today though .. o well.
Split Squats killed me. Took em nice and slow , concentrated on form and Mind and msucle connection. I was drenched in sweat / was panting / grumbling / moaning LOL , people kept staring. Rest Intervals were 2 minutes becuase as soon as I'd rack the bar I'd kinda fall LOL.
Glute Ham Raises were disappointing .. form was good , just I couldn't pull out a good amount of reps cause my legs were so fatigued , the last set was really hard , did one , then went to the other got 3/4 back up .. then I kinda stayed there in mid - air trying to push up .. but kept falling , but managed to pull myself back up.
Umm core workout was really good too , really really felt it

Diet -
Meal 1 - yogurt, oats , whey
*PW* skim milk , oats , whey , grape/strawberry juice
Meal 2 - oats , EW , CC , banana, olive oil
Meal 3 - tuna , lettuce , apple ,olive oil , pearl barley, fishies
Meal 4 - chicken , olive oil , Sweet Potato , apple, broccoli, fishies
Meal 5 - home made muesli mix (rye / barley / oat flakes) , yogurt , EW , olive oil, fishies
Meal 6 - PB , CC , fishies,

meals will be similar to this , might be changing it around if I get some new stuff / re work some meals to include more yogurt. Will edit it in tonight though

Macros ~
Calories - 2781
Fat - 87G (9G sat)
Carbs - 324G (31G fibre)
Protein - 180G


Water -3L
Additonals - green teaSF maple syrup , lemon juice, SF ketchup, canyenne pepper powder , garlic powder , cinnamon, SF jam, ultra low fat miricle whip , vinnegar, SF gum
Sleep - 9 hours

Posting this now cause might not have a chance tonight , it's the sleep over / relay for cancer. Should be a fun night. And becuase I woke up late this morning (8AM instead of 5:20am LOL) I think I can space out my meals good too. eat meal 3 at 3:30PM , then again at 7:30PM , then 11:30PM then 3:30am , then eat my breakfast I'd usually have Saturday morning at 7:30am.
Also bowl movements have ben really good so far today. I've been up for 4 hours and have gone 3x LOL.
now I gotta go get showered and start shopping

 

[Tom_B]

Ok .. wow just got back and am $50 lighter ... I think once school ends I might have to work more shifts to get myself to Toronto .. almost got enough now for my ticket and stuff ..

Anyways. Okay I got some - Xanthum gum , I got Psyllium seed husks , oat flakes , barley flakes , rye flakes, and some Probiotics (damn probiotics cose me $30 for 60 caps )

Okay the Probiotics are these here
It says take 3 caps if you got digestive problems .. but I don't think I can afford that .. that means I'd have to re-buy this stuff every 20 days
But it says take 1 to maintain healthy intestinal flora , so would 1 be alright with combination of my new fibre intake / yogurt intake?? (P.S. The yogurt I have was the best I could find , the others only have like 2 or 3 bacterial cultures , mine has 4)

P.S. does xanthan gum have the same nutritonional breakdown as Pysllium??

 

[Emma-Leigh]

Okay the Probiotics are these here
It says take 3 caps if you got digestive problems .. but I don't think I can afford that .. that means I'd have to re-buy this stuff every 20 days
But it says take 1 to maintain healthy intestinal flora , so would 1 be alright with combination of my new fibre intake / yogurt intake?? (P.S. The yogurt I have was the best I could find , the others only have like 2 or 3 bacterial cultures , mine has 4)

Tom - next time get the LIQUID stuff.... Like the ones I linked you to in my other post. The capsules are way too costly and are not as good.

P.S. does xanthan gum have the same nutritonional breakdown as Pysllium??

It's basically 100% fibre tom...

Xanthum gum

 

[Katia7]

Thanks, I can only imagaine how bad your digestive probs are with all those food allergies - damn digestive problems ..
I know there has to be something to get rid of this .. there has to be, yesterday i was in soo much pain I thought I was gonna pass out .. and my doctor expects me to wait another month before gonna about a course of action?? i gave the office a call today and told them I can't wait another month and there has to be SOMETHING , ANYTHING they can give me in the meantime , cause it's unbearable. Espically with exams starting in 3 days, how am I suppos to be studying if I'm in constant pain and can't even focus .. ugh.
Thanks for the advice about the naturapath, problem is , is that I'm not sure if theres any around here ...I do think I remember though last year in P.D.R. class we were talking about food allergies and this one girl mentioned that doctors could do nothing for her , so she went to a naturapath and they used all these remedies or something and they actually worked and she dosen't have any problems anymore .. gonna start asking around to see if there's any in town ..

Aaaaawwwwww I'm so sorry, but I know exactly what you're going through. I used to be MUCH worse, but naturapathic Dr really helped. If I were you I wouldn't even worry about that appointment in a month. Regular Drs give the same medicine to all people with digestive problems, no matter what the cause behind them might be. Whatever you do DO NOT take antibiotics. If they think you need them there are safer things that do the same thing as they do.
As far as a naturapath... PM me in what city you live (or your zip code would be even better) and I'll see if I can find someone.
In the mean time, try to really focus on what causes your stomach to act up. Which foods? Does it get worse at a certain time of day? Does it come from stress? Does certain weather make it worse? Just ANYTHING at all.
What symptoms besides besides pain and bloating are yo having?
Some things that might help (and are generally good for you): probiotic (those cultures that Emma was talking about), flaxseed or fish oils, digestive enzymes, and staying away from Dairy (plain, low fat yogurt.. the natural kind is OK). A lot of people (me including) have trouble with raw veggies, so if you're one of them just steam or boil them. Try not to drink water with food. Drink it 30 min away from meals. And stay away from caffene. Look at your tongue.. is it coated? If it is then most likely you have some kind of bacteria.