Tren A with Prami dosing protocols

[acemon]

I am running a Test C cycle @800mg a week. I want to start a Tren A dosing protocol of 33mg ed soon. I would like to run Prami with it. What kind of dosing protocol should I be using with the Prami for a cycle like this?

I have read a few things on it so far. I know that ramping up dosage with Prami is suggested. Something like .25mg per day for the first few days or week and then to .5mg a day going forward. Does that sound like a good protocol?

Thanks in advance

 

[pieguy]

You might not need to ramp up past .25 at such a low dosage of tren ace. 231mg of tren ace a week is very little, even though tren is pretty strong. I'd bump up to at least 350mg per week, 50mg daily and then .5mg pramipexole daily.

 

[heavyiron]

0.1mg Prami day 1
0.2mg Prami day 2
0.25-0.3mg Prami day 3 till end of the cycle.

Take your Prami first thing in the morning.

 

[acemon]

How soon before I will feel or see the side effects of the Tren A? I should take the Prami before the side effects show themselves, right?

 

[heavyiron]

How soon before I will feel or see the side effects of the Tren A? I should take the Prami before the side effects show themselves, right?

I would start with a good dose AI first then add Prami later if needed. Lowering E2 is way more important.

 

[acemon]

Good to hear. I am using arimidex @ .5mg Ed. That keeps my e2 between 10-25pg/ml. I should add Prami as needed or as a preventative measure?

Much thanks iron

 

[acemon]

I was thinking that I might ramp after I see how my body feels on it. How long is it before blood plasma levels with tren-A become saturated?

 

[acemon]

How do people usually figure out that they need Prami? I am going to get some more blood work done when I start the Tren A. Does one week from the starting Tren would be good? In addition to the standard blood work test, what tests should I get done? Prolactin and/or Progesterone?

Thanks in advance

 

[heavyiron]

Good to hear. I am using arimidex @ .5mg Ed. That keeps my e2 between 10-25pg/ml. I should add Prami as needed or as a preventative measure?

Much thanks iron

If you can keep E2 in that range you may not need Prami.

 

[acemon]

Good to hear. Thanks

 

[acemon]

Has anyone heard about using t3 to control prolactin?

 

[heavyiron]

Has anyone heard about using t3 to control prolactin?

You are starting to worry me. I'm thinking you should not be using these drugs. T3 is a thyroid medication.

 

[acemon]

I was reading about tren and prolactin on another forum. Which will remain nameless. But the person that wrote article called it out. I am still researching. But I really appreciate your concern. This why I am all about IM and the good people in this forum. I thought it was odd but, it was written by the person who runs the forum I believe. I am definitely going to with what you said earlier in this thread. I ordered Prami and caber already.

 

[msumuscle]

If you can keep E2 in that range you may not need Prami.

Wait, I thought on any 19-Nor cycle you needed something for prolactin? If you keep your estrogen in the normal range you don't need caber or prami? I'm confused, I guess I don't know the relation between estrogen and prolactin.

 

[malfeasance]

You might not need to ramp up past .25 at such a low dosage of tren ace. 231mg of tren ace a week is very little, even though tren is pretty strong. I'd bump up to at least 350mg per week, 50mg daily and then .5mg pramipexole daily.

Bump it up from first injection, or over time to see how he adjust to it?

 

[emitecaps]

Wait, I thought on any 19-Nor cycle you needed something for prolactin? If you keep your estrogen in the normal range you don't need caber or prami? I'm confused, I guess I don't know the relation between estrogen and prolactin.

For gyno to develop you need the presence of estrogen. High prolactin levels alone will not cause gyno. Maybe that's why some say keep estro in check and don't worry about prolactin. But even with estrogen levels kept in range, high prolactin levels will still kill your libido so you need to counteract it. I would always take caber or prami on anything that increases prolactin.

 

[heavyiron]

Wait, I thought on any 19-Nor cycle you needed something for prolactin? If you keep your estrogen in the normal range you don't need caber or prami? I'm confused, I guess I don't know the relation between estrogen and prolactin.

Not everyone experiences high prolactin from 19 nor's. Labs would be good to check this.

In some animal studies Tren did not increase prolactin at all.

E2 is the most important thing to control on cycle. If E2 and prolactin go high you are screwed.