tren virgin! advice?

[spunoutdj]

whats up guys. Im about to add tren e to this cycle and I'm pretty f'n excited. I am currently running test e 500mg/week (split into 2 pins a week) and tbol 40mg/day plus aromasin at 12.5mg/day .. My stats are 27yo 6'1" 205lbs & between 12-12.5% ... I have had some cycle experience but usually only run test for 8-10 weeks and have an oral kickstart.. Ive had people tell me i should start with a short ester to judge the sides but ive got the tren e on hand and even if the TA is only a few days I dont wanna wait to add it. I was planning on running 200mg/week for a couple of weeks to judge the sides at around the 2 week / 2.5 week mark before upping it to maybe 300mg. Ive heard the magic starts around 300mg, but id rather walk before i run. I guess my question would be, for those who have experience with tren.. Any advice on how to handle the sides? anything help with sleep? Or sweating? Aggression? Keep caber on hand? Help me out bros! Also any other dosing advice would be appreciated.

 

[MisterMak]

At about 250mg/week I soak my sheets every night and can barely sleep. Add it in slowly as you stated and good luck. I get tren cough only about every 5th or 6th injection. I can't find caber and I use prami.

I tried using OTC sleep aids and had no relief from insomnia. I had zero aggression.

 

[bigdippin]

At about 250mg/week I soak my sheets every night and can barely sleep. Add it in slowly as you stated and good luck. I get tren cough only about every 5th or 6th injection. I can't find caber and I use prami.

I tried using OTC sleep aids and had no relief from insomnia. I had zero aggression.

How long before you started to notice the sides from tren?

 

[Standard Donkey]

negged for being a tren virgin

 

[spunoutdj]

negged for being a tren virgin

haha ya i just ran test my first few cycles.. no need to run tren right off the bat.. I've also heard from several dif ppl who have used the tren e from this lab (idk if i can say name the lab) that the cough is very mild compared to other labs. Could be complete bullshit, we'll see.. Anyone find any relief from the night sweats / insomnia ?? Or just bite the bullet...

 

[muscleicon]

By using tren E, 2-2.5 weeks won't be long enough to feel the effects of the tren. Tren E usually hits me about week 3-4. My first advice to you would be to use short ester (tren ace) first but to each his own. Tren doses are normally 2:1 with test E dose. Example 500 mg tren E/250 test E as a starting point.

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[muscleicon]

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[Goodskie]

Contrary to popular belief the more tren you use the less the sides. Also front loading with 2g helps immensely with keeping all sides down

 

[raginbrah]

I started with E for my first Tren cycle. It turned out to be a terrible cycle. My advice is, respect the drug and don't think just because sides aren't bad at the moment that they won't pick up dramatically.

I started with 200mg for a couple weeks, a little bit of night sweats and insomnia. Week or two later 300, no big deal. 400mg, I sweat a lot and wasn't getting much sleep, but my body was changing dramatically and I didn't mind sweat or insomnia too much.

Somewhere along the way I thought the sides were overrated, went to 500mg, then by 8th(?) week I was at 700mg. Next thing I knew my acne was absolutely insane, I developed gyno, depression was like I had never experienced, and I had a few "rage" type outbursts. I then realized that the reason people reco ace at first actually was legitimate and I wasn't invincible. I pulled the plug on the cycle completely after an aggression incident that was completely uncalled for.

Long story short, take it slow and KEEP it slow. You will notice major changes at a lower dose and the sides really started to suck at a higher dose (at least for me).

 

[jay_steel]

By using tren E, 2-2.5 weeks won't be long enough to feel the effects of the tren. Tren E usually hits me about week 3-4. My first advice to you would be to use short ester (tren ace) first but to each his own. Tren doses are normally 2:1 with test E dose. Example 500 mg tren E/250 test E as a starting point.

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that is a good rule of thumb for getting lean, but i just got off of 600 tren with 1200 test... no additional sides actually slept better... I plan on running 1g test and 1g tren after my npp cycle... going from 1400 t 600npp to that then after that I will start my prep with low test. trying to keep my cycles at 2g's only and no orals. but try it out at 300g then go up. Tren is a fucking blast if you have good stuff. Its the only AAS that actually changes my personality. I can run high test and im the same, i run high tren i am a different man thats for sure.

 

[s2h]

Pin and see what happens OP....to many guys sit around wondering what is gonna go wrong with Tren...it gets in there head and then any little side seems to multiple just out of the evil preconceived thoughts in your head...

 

[Inner Rage]

Kinda same story for me lacking the outbursts, gyno and depression. Maybe a little depression due to the fact I couldnt take my shirt off all summer after all that hard work due to the acne...It didnt seem to come until the last weeks i was on but when it came...it wasnt letting go. Everyones a bit different though when it comes to sides. That being said it sure didnt scare me away from it..got some accutane and plan on running it again here shortly. Fingers crossed

I started with E for my first Tren cycle. It turned out to be a terrible cycle. My advice is, respect the drug and don't think just because sides aren't bad at the moment that they won't pick up dramatically.

I started with 200mg for a couple weeks, a little bit of night sweats and insomnia. Week or two later 300, no big deal. 400mg, I sweat a lot and wasn't getting much sleep, but my body was changing dramatically and I didn't mind sweat or insomnia too much.

Somewhere along the way I thought the sides were overrated, went to 500mg, then by 8th(?) week I was at 700mg. Next thing I knew my acne was absolutely insane, I developed gyno, depression was like I had never experienced, and I had a few "rage" type outbursts. I then realized that the reason people reco ace at first actually was legitimate and I wasn't invincible. I pulled the plug on the cycle completely after an aggression incident that was completely uncalled for.

Long story short, take it slow and KEEP it slow. You will notice major changes at a lower dose and the sides really started to suck at a higher dose (at least for me).

 

[spunoutdj]

Pin and see what happens OP....to many guys sit around wondering what is gonna go wrong with Tren...it gets in there head and then any little side seems to multiple just out of the evil preconceived thoughts in your head...

True. Ya i got the tren e on hand so im gonna pin it regardless of peoples horror stories.... I also understand that everyone handles gear differently so Im just gonna have to roll with it and listen to my body. Any other advice bros?

 

[Roughneck_91]

Spun,

Your cycle seems pretty legit as is and I think you might want to consider holding off until next time so its not mixed with a bunch of other gear that way you learn how you feel on it. If your dead set on going now, however, I would suggest a little higher dosage because I don't think 200mg/week is enough. That breaks down to about 28.5mg a day if you relate it to the acetate. My first time using it, getting ready for a show, I shot 75mg a day alternating calves (Clen, T3, Test E, Test P, Tren A, Ex). Got ripped and strong despite a 1800 calorie diet.

 

[Goodskie]

Get caber. Tren fucked my sex drive up for a year then caber made it better than ever

 

[hoyle21]

Get caber. Tren fucked my sex drive up for a year then caber made it better than ever

I always take tren with masteron so maybe that helps but those two together make me horny as fuck.

 

[s2h]

I always take tren with masteron so maybe that helps but those two together make me horny as fuck.

A dht always helps the balance...high tren..middle of the road mast...and low test makes a good run...

 

[sofargone561]

Pin that shit!

 

[Calves of Steel]

A dht always helps the balance...high tren..middle of the road mast...and low test makes a good run...

Listen to this guy.

 

[MisterMak]

Spun,

I noticed the insomnia and sweats about 10 days into it. I was using Tren E.

 

[Mudge]

Everyone is different with tren, side effects and results. I have friends that can't touch it, I love the hell out of it.