UN-BIASED review of ptren LOG

[spunoutdj]

@Goldenera I completely agree. I would love to see someone run ptren alone, or will very little test to see results maybe more specific to ptren. I also have had a killer libido on this cycle. Im sure my natty test is down, if not shutdown, but i haven't had any libido issues at all.

 

[supaman23]

Nice. The size is there. A bit more hardening and you will look great.

 

[supaman23]

And thanks for the log, nicely done.

 

[Goldenera]

@Goldenera I completely agree. I would love to see someone run ptren alone, or will very little test to see results maybe more specific to ptren. I also have had a killer libido on this cycle. Im sure my natty test is down, if not shutdown, but i haven't had any libido issues at all.

I will be doing it solo for 4 weeks. I know its not long but I will jump from that into 16 week cycle so will be 20 weeks total.

I'll see how I feel on ptren alone if I feel like shit I'll use 250mg a week of test.

 

[spunoutdj]

Weighed in this morning (monday) at 207, despite having missed the gym since wednesday night. I jammed my thumb during a heated pick up game of basketball after lifting. My thumb was swollen pretty bad, and hurt like a bitch to hold a dumbbell. Anyways, after icing the shit out of it and soaking it in epsom salt the swelling was down enough to get my gloves on and hit the gym. My reps were exactly the same, so i'm happy i didn't lose any ground. During my last cycle I had a shoulder (rotator cuff) injury, so maybe I tend to overtrain? Either way, I am still packing on the lbs, and have a lot of time left on cycle. Adding some peptides into my regimen has really stepped up my appetite as I expected, and also helped me get better sleep. I'm hoping that I can meet / exceed my goal of 210 lbs. So far, so good. So far, besides the obvious gains in the gym and on the scale, Ptren has had little effect on me. No negative sides to speak of, and still no euphoria or energy some have felt. I feel absolutely normal, which i don't mind (I hate feeling lethargic). I will have some new pics hopefully later this week, as well as a before cycle pic for comparison.

 

[spunoutdj]

Haven't posted since last week, so here's an update. Weight is still steadily increasing (209.2 lbs this morning), and my strength is still up although I think it has plateaued. I have still been getting solid pumps in the gym, but my lifts aren't skyrocketing like they were in the beginning of my cycle. I came down with I minor cold and haven't had much much of an appetite the last 2 days, and it still hasn't seemed to slow me down in the gym or on the scale. I plan on running the ptren for one more week, and then just riding out the remainder of my cycle with what test i have left. So far, I'm very happy with my results. I've put on over 10lbs of LBM, with less bloat and water retention then I've experienced with test before. I can't wait to shed this water and harden up! The dosing of ptren 3x daily has become a real chore though (compared to prop). After I ride out this week, I will post a final round of pics and also give you my pros/cons of adding ptren into my cycle.

 

[longworthb]

Might have to run this with my next cycle. I'm always interested in new compounds. Solid log bro

 

[Standard Donkey]

Haven't posted since last week, so here's an update. Weight is still steadily increasing (209.2 lbs this morning), and my strength is still up although I think it has plateaued. I have still been getting solid pumps in the gym, but my lifts aren't skyrocketing like they were in the beginning of my cycle. I came down with I minor cold and haven't had much much of an appetite the last 2 days, and it still hasn't seemed to slow me down in the gym or on the scale. I plan on running the ptren for one more week, and then just riding out the remainder of my cycle with what test i have left. So far, I'm very happy with my results. I've put on over 10lbs of LBM, with less bloat and water retention then I've experienced with test before. I can't wait to shed this water and harden up! The dosing of ptren 3x daily has become a real chore though (compared to prop). After I ride out this week, I will post a final round of pics and also give you my pros/cons of adding ptren into my cycle.

lol..


and lol@ unbiased log of a compound while running another compound..

 

[longworthb]

Knowledge and intelligence are two separate things. When you immediately verbally bash someone you illustrate a lack of intelligence to reason. So yes. He may have knowledge on things but that doesn't equate intelligence.

And to think the body can add 5lbs of muscle in 9 days is absurd.

Lmao u must not know ob very well. He will walk circles around you when it comes to aas. If he ran it and said it was good then I believe him

 

[spunoutdj]

@SD i'd be curious to see someone run ptren alone simply bc its a newly available compound... But it'd be like running var alone as far as results IMO... nothing to write home about.

 

[colochine]

@SD i'd be curious to see someone run ptren alone simply bc its a newly available compound... But it'd be like running var alone as far as results IMO... nothing to write home about.

It's not newly available. There are solo log in the works elsewhere.

 

[overburdened]

Weighed in today at 203 lbs. I also added some peptides into this cycle to stimulate my appetite a little more (Ptren is said to stimulate appetite, I haven't noticed any real difference). I'm still not noticing any of the "energy" some people say ptren offers, although i have noticed some unusual pumps I'm not used to. After squats, I had some intense leg pumps that were almost uncomfortable. It almost felt like a charlie horse, so I assumed that's what it was and ignored it. A few days later, I had a similar feeling after deadlifts. I had crazy back pumps! Maybe the Ptren? My lifts have been steadily going up, and I'm continuing to add reps as well. It's been only 2 weeks, and I am seeing great results. I am convinced ptren is bringing more to the table besides the lifts/pumps in the gym, I just can't put my finger on it! I don't like people saying this compound is bogus, but I agree it is over-sold as something it simply isn't. It is more icing on the cake IMO. I wouldn't expect much from a cycle of ptren alone because of how mild it is. I would love to raise the ptren dose, but I have been warned about the gyno sides at the 10mg /day dosage. I can't quite put my finger on what the exact effects are of ptren... and not the 500mg of test... Cant wait to do more research!

It's not 'gyno' related(the reason that doses upwards of 10 mg have been advised against...), it is due to the fact that, I'm not entirely sure why this is the case yet but there's a LOT of logs going up now(elsewhere), and maybe I can figure out a theory from those, and my experiences(as well as others that have run it).... The compound is actually more effective in the 6-8mg ed range, than higher(from my experience....), You CAN try it at 10 if you want, I would like to see if it does the same to you(esp since you haven't noticed a lot of hunger from the lower dose... maybe a little more ptren will help you with appetite, and some of the other things you haven't noticed to quite the degree some have....).. I KNOW it isn't liver toxic at 12mg ed(had bloods done)... so shoot for ten if you want.. I'd like to see if it negates some of the 'positives' of it for you, or if I am the only one that noticed that...

 

[overburdened]

Knowledge and intelligence are two separate things. When you immediately verbally bash someone you illustrate a lack of intelligence to reason. So yes. He may have knowledge on things but that doesn't equate intelligence.

And to think the body can add 5lbs of muscle in 9 days is absurd.

your muscles can 'glycogen load' 5lbs of muscle in 9 days! this is a side effect of highly androgenic substances(fast glycogen loading).... He said he is getting harder every day.. so, It would stand to reason that the 5lbs wasn't fat! It would also stand to reason that it is a very good chance it is glycogen loading(which is part of the anabolic process...

Of course, I'm sure you knew that, since you seem to know everything...LOL

 

[overburdened]

@SD i'd be curious to see someone run ptren alone simply bc its a newly available compound... But it'd be like running var alone as far as results IMO... nothing to write home about.

There are six people running it solo... on another board, all logging... and, they are all seeing results already!(less than a week in....)... So, anyone that still wants to say it's bullshit, after this SOLID log, as well as those... Well.... I guess you must know EVERYTHING already then, and are too ignorant to learn anything new!

There's plenty of people inserting their foot in their mouth already(after insisting ptren was BS, and my log was BS.. etc, etc...) And I would venture to guess that half the people that had a part in bashing it to begin with have tried it at this point(or are planning on it soon) now that they have seen the NUMEROUS logs, showing that it is effective.... They may or may not retract the ignorant statements they made to begin with(It takes a MAN to admit when he's wrong... and there seems to be fewer of those around these days)...

OP, nice log! I'll be checking back to see your final 'take' on it... Glad to see you hit your goal weight!

 

[longworthb]

Ob in your experience how long could you run this safely at a moderate dose of say 6mg

 

[jamesm11]

your muscles can 'glycogen load' 5lbs of muscle in 9 days! this is a side effect of highly androgenic substances(fast glycogen loading).... He said he is getting harder every day.. so, It would stand to reason that the 5lbs wasn't fat! It would also stand to reason that it is a very good chance it is glycogen loading(which is part of the anabolic process...

Of course, I'm sure you knew that, since you seem to know everything...LOL

That's not new mass, that's glycogen saturation which goes away after the cycle. I know how it works moron.

There's plenty of good reason to assume this will not work. Almost every log is run with other anabolics so it creates indivisible results.

When PA and HenryV call bullshit and use studies and science it's much more believable. As opposed to a rep

 

[overburdened]

That's not new mass, that's glycogen saturation which goes away after the cycle. I know how it works moron.

There's plenty of good reason to assume this will not work. Almost every log is run with other anabolics so it creates indivisible results.

When PA and HenryV call bullshit and use studies and science it's much more believable. As opposed to a rep

There are no studies on HUMANS!!! So you can believe what you want, and stay small all your life.... or use toxic aas to accomplish the same thing, and go into hepatic failure by the time you are 40... You are such an ignorant little sheep to just believe whatever you read cause someone that 'supposedly' knows something, yet they have never ACTUALLY studied that particular compound,, says its bs...

SO DON'T EVER TAKE IT!!! NOBODY CARES IF YOU DO OR NOT!

 

[overburdened]

Ob in your experience how long could you run this safely at a moderate dose of say 6mg

I would say 10+ weeks.... I've seen someone run it even longer without issue... There isn't too much need to run it much longer than that, I wouldn't think.

What are you thinking of using it for? Bulk, cut, recomp?

 

[longworthb]

More then likely recomp.

 

[overburdened]

More then likely recomp.

get bloods done 4-5 weeks in, just for your own reassurance... you should be just fine at 10 weeks...

 

[spunoutdj]

209.8 lbs this morning... FUCK! ... I wanted to see 210 on the scale really bad! I feel like this cycle has given me exactly what I was looking for, and I've met my goals. I am getting some blue tops any day now as well as some more peps to run during pct. (another log, maybe?) I cant wait to shed some of this bloat and cut up over the next few weeks. I believe that anyone looking to add a mild oral to there cycle, ptren is definitely a viable option. I have read tons of posts about ptren. Some people think its total bullshit and not worth a penny, and others swear by it. Having tried it myself now, I can say there IS SOMETHING HERE. As I said earlier, I wouldn't run it alone... I don't think it would produce the kind of results I personally would be looking for in a bulk cycle. Then again, someone may find they have good results with it..

Some noteworthy results I can defintely attribute to ptren:
- Killer pumps in the gym. I loved taking it PWO and was getting similar results to NO Xplode.
- Didn't feel lethargic at all while on cycle, even though test usually does make me lethargic.
- Quicker recovery

As far as how anabolic it is, and how much of my mass can be attributed to the addition of ptren, I cant say for sure. I believe the test is responsible for the majority of the lbs i packed on. I am not going to claim ptren made me gain 12 lbs of muscle.. There are many other orals (some even more powerful) I could have added to this cycle instead of ptren and had similar success. Having said that, if someone was trying to avoid taking C17-alpha alkylated compounds, this is a great option!
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In conclusion, ptren is a very mild oral that should be used as icing on the cake of an already solid cycle (IMO). For the price, you can't go wrong. BUT, don't let a sponsor "sell you the stars" on this compound. IMO, it is less potent than advertised (at the 6mg/daily dosage). There are many other compounds out there which, although liver toxic, can produce better results for bulking, which was my goal. Dosing 3x daily is a pain in the ass if you have a full time job, which should be taken into consideration. I would recommend this compound to someone during a recomp or cut cycle because of the "energy" it produces. I wouldn't recommend ptren to someone who is bulking (there's other drugs more effective IMO). I hope people who might be considering this compound found this helpful, and can PM with any other specific questions.
-DJ

 

[Standard Donkey]

run it by itself or else your log is pure bullshit

 

[spunoutdj]

run it by itself or else your log is pure bullshit

Read my entire post or your comment is pure bullshit..

 

[AugustWest]

run it by itself or else your log is pure bullshit

he never once hid the fact he was using testosterone with it. He was just reviewing another product he was stacking with it.

take the pins out ur ass or move on. no one invited you. so ur salty attitude just gets in the way of people who are actually interested.

your handle is starting to make sense......as in its standard for you to act like a donkey ::cough cough:: ass

 

[Standard Donkey]

he never once hid the fact he was using testosterone with it. He was just reviewing another product he was stacking with it.

take the pins out ur ass or move on. no one invited you. so ur salty attitude just gets in the way of people who are actually interested.

your handle is starting to make sense......as in its standard for you to act like a donkey ::cough cough:: ass

blow me dickhead, i ran the ptren myself. have you?


i actually know what im talking about

 

[Standard Donkey]

according to the OPs routine... he didnt even train his back.


and whoever is in that picture doesnt look like he lifts at all, much less does steroids

 

[spunoutdj]

according to the OPs routine... he didnt even train his back.


and whoever is in that picture doesnt look like he lifts at all, much less does steroids

read bro, then troll.

MON: Chest , Bi's
TUES: Legs
WED: cardio (bike or eliptical)
THURS: Shoulders, Tri's
FRI: Back, Abs
Weekends: Rest

 

[the_riddler]

Hey Supaman.... you want to try methyltren? I have a satchet of 250mcg tabs.... for you I would recommend 3-4mgs a day... that should keep you off the forum for a couple months why you recover from your liver transplant. BTW, I haven't been on this forum very long but I know my stuff and it's pretty obvious that overburdened knows his stuff too. I wouldn't go around making "friends" by calling forum vets idiots broham.