Universal Hard Fast Discontinued

[Ladyhawke]

I drink a pre-workout shake of 1 scoop champion protein powder and 1 scoop universal hard fast powder in a glass of milk with my vitamins, and a stacker 2. I went to re-order today and the universal nutrition hard fast has been discontinued. Does anyone have any suggestions for a similiar pre-work out supplement that will work kind of like hard fast. There is one rule - being female, it has to come in CHOCOLATE flavor. I looked at some websites and looked at what champion and universal have and didn't see anything like it.

 

[Dannie]

From what I can see a Hard Fast is just a gainer with fancy extracts and herbal supplements added to it. As it happens it is packed with very small quantities of these herbal supplements. Note that that the amount of these is even less if you only use 1 scoop per serving (as opposed to 4 scoops). Hence it is highly negligible , I doubt its doing you any favors.

Here is a list of some gainers you could use instead of Hard Fast.
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[Ladyhawke]

Thank you for the info. Am researching them on the internet. The VPX Stealth looks about the best so far, so I will probably order that one. Lowest calories and I like that it has creatine in it. Since it has alot of protein already in it, would you suggest continuing mixing 1 scoop of that with 1 scoop of protein powder, or just 2 scoops of VPX Stealth? I did that with the Hard Fast because it had a kind of low protein content. Any thouhts???

I hope the taste is good!!!!!!

 

[Dannie]

VPX Stealth

Serving Information

• Container Size: 2250g
• Serving Size: 3 scoop (150g)
• Servings Per Container: 15

Amounts Per Serving

• Calories: 575
  • Calories From Fat: 54
• Total Fat: 6 g
  • Saturated Fat: 2.5 g
  • Trans Fat: 0 g
• Cholesterol: 65 mg
• Sodium: 310 mg
• Potassium: 580 mg
• Total Carbohydrate: 82 g
  • Dietary Fiber: 5 g
  • Sugars: 6 g
• Protein: 48 g

Universal Nutrition, Hard Fast

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[TD="colspan: 3"]Serving Size: 4 Scoops (100 g)[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3"]Servings Per Container: 14[/TD]
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[TD="width: 15%"]Amount Per Serving[/TD]
[TD="width: 15%"]% Daily Value[/TD]
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[TD]Calories[/TD]
[TD]355[/TD]
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[TD]Calories from Fat[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
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[TD]Total Fat[/TD]
[TD]2.5 g[/TD]
[TD]4%*[/TD]
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[TD]Saturated Fat[/TD]
[TD]1 g[/TD]
[TD]5%[/TD]
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[TD]Cholesterol[/TD]
[TD]61 mg[/TD]
[TD]20%*[/TD]
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[TD]Total Carbohydrates[/TD]
[TD]51 g[/TD]
[TD]17%*[/TD]
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[TD]Dietary Fiber[/TD]
[TD]1 g[/TD]
[TD]5%*[/TD]
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[TD]Sugars[/TD]
[TD]21 g[/TD]
[TD]**[/TD]
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[TD]Protein[/TD]
[TD]32 g[/TD]
[TD]64%*[/TD]
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1 scoop of Stealth (50g) = 16g protein and 192kcal
2 scoops of Hard Fast (50g) = 16g of protein and 178kcal

Assuming that the density of the powder is similar, the scoop will differ in size. Hence use half a scoop of Stealth or simply use your old Hard Fast scoop to measure out Stealth.

As for taste, never used this particular product myself but you have nothing to worry about , its a good reputable brand - their pre workout products taste great.

Hope this helps.

 

[Ladyhawke]

Thanks for the info. I should be good to go with that.