Uthinkso guilty of over thinking...

[AKIRA]

Wow wow wow....I can tie my shoes without holding my breath when I bend over. For the formerly fat, you know what I'm talking about. I guess the gut is getting smaller after all. SWEET!!!!

Oh my god, you had to hold your breath to tie your shoes?! Fuckin A, welcome to Slender City!


Glad you liked the last workout order. I knew it would work. Now that you got the basic premise down, youll start understanding where it goes from here..

 

[Uthinkso]

Oh my god, you had to hold your breath to tie your shoes?! Fuckin A, welcome to Slender City!


Glad you liked the last workout order. I knew it would work. Now that you got the basic premise down, youll start understanding where it goes from here..

Fuckn A dude, I honestly think I put 80% of the weight on in my gut. See above even after losing for the last three months I measure 44" across my belly button. Although if you look at the men in my family, they all look like they are auditioning as budha models. Not this cat.

Also push ups have been used now instead of flat bench every other week on push day as the first excercise. Right now 3x20 takes a lot for me. I use a wide grip to, like one hands width wider than my shoulders and god does my chest feel it.

 

[Uthinkso]

WTF Two people today asked me if I gave up on my diet because I look especially fat. WTF is that all about. Extra cardio today now, to mke me feel better.

 

[DOMS]

WTF Two people today asked me if I gave up on my diet because I look especially fat. WTF is that all about. Extra cardio today now, to mke me feel better.

Does this post make my ass look fat?


Don't sweat it, man! It could be water retention, the clothes you're wearing, or something else trivial. Even if you did regain some weight, that's fine. Did you expect your fat loss to be downward 100% of the time? You have off days (or even weeks) when training, correct? The same thing happens with fat loss.

Just keep persevering.

 

[Uthinkso]

Does this post make my ass look fat?


Don't sweat it, man! It could be water retention, the clothes you're wearing, or something else trivial. Even if you did regain some weight, that's fine. Did you expect your fat loss to be downward 100% of the time? You have off days (or even weeks) when training, correct? The same thing happens with fat loss.

Just keep persevering.

Oh I know I just needed a place to piss and moan and this journal works great for that. Hell if you look back at my earlier posts from Janurary to now I look a bit bi-polar.

 

[DOMS]

Well, in all fairness, you pissed and moaned in the most positive and supportive forum on IM.

 

[Uthinkso]

Well, in all fairness, you pissed and moaned in the most positive and supportive forum on IM.

very true..

 

[AKIRA]

WTF Two people today asked me if I gave up on my diet because I look especially fat. WTF is that all about. Extra cardio today now, to mke me feel better.

My mom asked me today if I was getting "bigger." I said yes mom, its called a bulk...then ill cut.

Truth is, I havent felt bigger at all, but today, because of my sleeveless shirt, I felt like my arms were huge, including my deltoids.

Fuckers have been the same size for months, it was just my shirt that gave off that effect.

Wheres today's push?

 

[Uthinkso]

Wheres today's push?

Had to pick my head up high enough to use the keyboard after posting it in the other thread. I think I need to either go back to the split routine with compounds or get a full body together that doesn't suck. See below....


Well today did not go as planned at all. On a positive I got a real massive pump, my arms felt very hard which is a feeling alien to me.

When I finally got to dips, I went over to the dip bar and took the wider grips since my tris were smoked. I jumped up there used a little leap and locked out my arms and could barely hold myself up there for more than three seconds let alone do a dip. I started to lower myself and my arms just gave way, so I bailed in the interest of safety.

Went over to weight assist dips
7x80lb
4x70lb
attempt again at 70lb and failed out....

Since most will ask here is what the rest of the workout looked like.

Flat DB Press
40x12 (WM Set)
50x10
55x8
55x8

Military DB Press (seated)
25x12
30x8
30x7
(already here my tris were wasted, I am baffled. I just couldn't push any harder)

Incline DB Press
25x12
30x8
30x8

then dips which are mentioned above. I am eating more calories these past two weeks than I have previously which is roughly 2500-2700kcal. I just don't have any strength at all, each time in the gym I get weaker and weaker. So what gives? More calories, try jacking it up to 3000kcal perhaps?? I have to say as a side bar I actually laugh at myself, and got a guy next to me chuckling today as I was saying aloud, "Come on you puss is that all you've got?" I was stronger than this as a mega-fat out of shape dude which tells me of the 20 some pounds I've lost, some muscle has gone with it.

When I started back just to give you an idea I did DB military press 45x10,50x10, 55x8. I'm moving half that weight damn near. I just don't get it at all. Before workout I've already eaten four meals consisting of 1905kcal, 167g carbs, 188g protein, and 59g of fat.

Also I'm 238lb, 23%BF, 6'1" for referrence.

 

[Bakerboy]

How long have you been training for without a break? You may need to take a week off change what needs to be changed and return fresh and ready to go.

 

[Uthinkso]

How long have you been training for without a break? You may need to take a week off change what needs to be changed and return fresh and ready to go.

I'd say six weeks or so. I had a short week when I did my bathroom a few weeks or a month back, but I was working on the bath all weekend so I still got some work out there.

Everything in me is screaming for a revamped split, I'm comfortable with that I do well, and most importantly I get stronger. I like combining push and pull movements in the same day. I've really seen from the push/pull/legs deal that my pull movements are where my strength lies.

 

[AKIRA]

I think the workout itself is solid, but if you want a big lift (dips, bench, squat etc), then some things must be worked around.

Whats the ultimate goal? bench 315 but have 15% bf OR bench 445 but have 25% bf. Two different looking beasts.

 

[Uthinkso]

I think the workout itself is solid, but if you want a big lift (dips, bench, squat etc), then some things must be worked around.

Whats the ultimate goal? bench 315 but have 15% bf OR bench 445 but have 25% bf. Two different looking beasts.

agreed I'm more the 15% and bench 315 kind of guy. True 445 and 25% guy is more the strong man type physique which just isn't what I'm going for. I've often considered the bulk up first before a cut here. I'm afraid when all this fat falls off whats left underneath will be sickly looking.

A good friend of mine is coming with me saturday to help me on my squat and deadlift form. He's a young guy, 22 years old, but has already been in a few mags and knows his way around the weight room. This will give me the missing confidence I've had with the two above excercises. I just don't feel safe loading up anymore weight on squats though I know I could do it. I need to get the form in order first.

 

[Uthinkso]

Ok after much thought I am taking the rest of the week off from weight training. Doing my cardio still and have some house junk to get caught up on as well, honey do list is piling up.

I am going to re-design my training plan, and against all advice I will be returning to a split routine. I feel it will help me get where I want to be. I may turn out to regret this move, but the only way I will know is to do it.

I'm going to work on the lay-out of the routine tonight and tomorrow a little and post up a few options here. I've started enough training threads in the last month as it is.

 

[Uthinkso]

Well along with my new routine I'll have myself some chemical assistance

No not poking my ass like a pin cushion. I ordered up some whey isolate and some Burn3D. I've done well on just whole foods thus far, but impatience like mine calls for chemicals. More importantly I've never adheared to a diet as strict as this when taking supplements of any kind so I'm rather excited to see the results.

 

[vortrit]

Well along with my new routine I'll have myself some chemical assistance

No not poking my ass like a pin cushion. I ordered up some whey isolate and some Burn3D. I've done well on just whole foods thus far, but impatience like mine calls for chemicals. More importantly I've never adheared to a diet as strict as this when taking supplements of any kind so I'm rather excited to see the results.

Good luck. I've never even heard of Burn3D, but Whey is not really a chemical.

 

[Uthinkso]

Good luck. I've never even heard of Burn3D, but Whey is not really a chemical.

Agreed, but it is a devitation from whole foods which is where all my nutrients have been coming from thus far.

Thats more what I meant.

 

[Uthinkso]

Well today was a great day in the gym. I took last week off and just relaxed really. Then today I had a free sample of a pre-workout supp called SMASH, review on that later, and was the start of my split routine for the next ten weeks. So needless to say I was excited to get there today. Today was back and bis and it went as follows....

Straight bar curl
55x12
65x10
95x10

Seated Row (not cable)
45lb plate per side x15
70lb per side x10
95lb per side x10

Seated Hammer curls
30lbx10 (10 reps per arm)
35x10
40x8

Reverse Grip Pull-Downs (palms facing me)
100lbx12
140lbx10
150lbx8

Single Arm DB Rows
45x12 (per side)
50x10
60x10 (new high for me, and I was owning it and kept great form)

Lower Back Extensions (explanation below)
80lbx15
120x15
160x10
*You sit in this deal partially bent over with your feet on a plate, and then you simply lean back against the back pad and the weight is the resistence.

 

[Double D]

My advice there would definitly be save arms for last. Do all of your back things first! You are taking away from your back doing this.

 

[Uthinkso]

My advice there would definitly be save arms for last. Do all of your back things first! You are taking away from your back doing this.

Actually by rotating excercises between body parts I feel I get a better workout. Even still a couple of my excercises are compounds that work both body parts (ie: pulldowns, rows).

 

[Double D]

Well the thing is your biceps get worked throughout the entire workout and doing them right after doing back is almost like doing bicep exercise one after another.

 

[Uthinkso]

Well the thing is your biceps get worked throughout the entire workout and doing them right after doing back is almost like doing bicep exercise one after another.

I agree with you, that being said I suppose it wouldn't really make a landslide difference and I really doubt my back excercises are suffering that much.

 

[Double D]

Whatever you want, its your workout routine. Best wishes at whichever you choose.

 

[Uthinkso]

Whatever you want, its your workout routine. Best wishes at whichever you choose.

Thank you, I do appreciate your comment. I will certainly give that a try, I just don't feel there will much of a difference.

 

[Uthinkso]

I feel like a damn house today. Perhaps its the new diet just settling in before it starts to go down. So far I'm putting on weight and its not muscle. I'm going to give it another week, but by then I may have lost all my progress and shot back to 250lb.

 

[vortrit]

I feel like a damn house today. Perhaps its the new diet just settling in before it starts to go down. So far I'm putting on weight and its not muscle. I'm going to give it another week, but by then I may have lost all my progress and shot back to 250lb.

Just keep at it. Things will sort themself out.

Are you doing any cardio?

 

[Double D]

What kind of diet are you doing? If your weight is shooting back up that fast then its not like its fat. Probably water weight.

 

[Uthinkso]

Just keep at it. Things will sort themself out.

Are you doing any cardio?

I was doing HIIT three days after weights and then on monday and wednesday as well. So that made five days. Then after much reading I've laid off the cardio. Apparently I read the wrong stuff, or at least that given plan isn't for me.

For fat loss thats always been rule #1 in my mind. Eat good, lift heavy, lots of cardio 30-40min a day five days a week and the fat will burn away. With good diet you will maintain your current muscle. Agreed????


As for the diet I am making adjustments with that, and Jodi has been kind enough to really go above and beyond the call of duty and basically hold my hand on this deal thus far. I'll get more into diet later. To answer your question though not much has changes int eh diet except added in more fats.

 

[vortrit]

I was doing HIIT three days after weights and then on monday and wednesday as well. So that made five days. Then after much reading I've laid off the cardio. Apparently I read the wrong stuff, or at least that given plan isn't for me.

For fat loss thats always been rule #1 in my mind. Eat good, lift heavy, lots of cardio 30-40min a day five days a week and the fat will burn away. With good diet you will maintain your current muscle. Agreed????


As for the diet I am making adjustments with that, and Jodi has been kind enough to really go above and beyond the call of duty and basically hold my hand on this deal thus far. I'll get more into diet later. To answer your question though not much has changes int eh diet except added in more fats.

Yeah, that would be agreed by me. You shouldn't lose muscle or enough to notice. I'm sure if Jodi helped you with a diet plan it's in check. I don't know about cardio 5 days a week. I'd go for 3 or maybe four depending on how much time you have. It's rather strange because I'm actually trying to gain weight for the first time ever. Actually last year I did my cardio first and then did my weights and it really seemed to help me loose weight. Then again that's only a couple of pound difference too so as D said you may be retaining some water weight. I know that some supplements will do this, like creatine, for example.

 

[Uthinkso]

Well I am supplement free thus far. I expect my whey yo show up any day now. I also got some other stuff to burn of some fat. So we'll see how it works.