VPX Pro-Hormones

[wantsomepizza]

With all this talk of PHs getting shut down I fear that by the time i'm ready to use them they will either not be available or way too expensive. So I was just wondering if i could buy some VPX products now to stock up for later. Does anyone know how long VPX PH products are good for if you don't open them? Any kind of help is appreciated. And if you feel like it, reply with suggestions about which VPX product to get.

 

[Ginobili]

Both the syngex's are good as is the monster test...but the monster test would prolly be the best because m1t is stronger than the other two...it just depends on if you can handle the sides.

 

[wantsomepizza]

Thanks Ginobili the syngex's sounded good as did the M1T but i've heard that the M1T's gains are usually lost after the cycle is ended, is this true, and if so, does the same happen with the syngex's?

 

[plouffe]

I honestly don't like VPX. Too expensive for me, and their products aren't as superior to others as they say. ( Sorry GoPro )

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by plouffe
I honestly don't like VPX. Too expensive for me, and their products aren't as superior to others as they say. ( Sorry GoPro )

Don't apologize...we have enough people that believe that VPXs PHs are superior to keep us in business, LOL. Interestingly, now that all the methyls are the rage the feedback I hear is that none are stronger than Monster Test and Gangsta Test when compared with other similar products.

 

[Testosterone]

I'll go for VPX super potent MAFIA-TEST.... Pity It's not listed here!

 

[camarosuper6]

I thought Monster-Test was awesome. It really gave great gains.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by Testosterone
I'll go for VPX super potent MAFIA-TEST.... Pity It's not listed here!

And yet ANOTHER idiotic post! Thats like 160 out of 322 now!

 

[ALBOB]

Not to get back on track or anything but I'm a bit curious about the answer to the original question. I've had a bottle of Syngex sitting, unopend, in my refrigerator since the last Mr. O Expo and I've also been wondering if it's still any good. Does that stuff go bad?

P.S. Speaking of the last Mr. O Expo; thanks for all your help GoPro. It was great to finally meet you face to face. You were obviously very busy but took the time to answer all my stupid questions in single syllable terms I could understand. Thanks again and I look forward to this year's event so we can do it again.

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by ALBOB
Not to get back on track or anything but I'm a bit curious about the answer to the original question. I've had a bottle of Syngex sitting, unopend, in my refrigerator since the last Mr. O Expo and I've also been wondering if it's still any good. Does that stuff go bad?

P.S. Speaking of the last Mr. O Expo; thanks for all your help GoPro. It was great to finally meet you face to face. You were obviously very busy but took the time to answer all my stupid questions in single syllable terms I could understand. Thanks again and I look forward to this year's event so we can do it again.

Its definitely still good. Refrigerated it will last a good 3 years.

It was a pleasure to meet and talk with you. I wish we could have hung out more but it was a madhouse! I hope I gave you all the info you needed. I look foward to seeing you again at the next show!

 

[ZECH]

Originally posted by ALBOB
I've also been wondering if it's still any good. Does that stuff go bad?

Send it to me and I will find out for you!
(Damn Can I delete GP's post??)

 

[gopro]

Originally posted by dg806
Send it to me and I will find out for you!
(Damn Can I delete GP's post??)

Oh c'mon now...you're way past prohormones

 

[ALBOB]

Originally posted by gopro
Oh c'mon now...you're way past prohormones

You mean they can't help the braindead?

 

[ZECH]

Originally posted by ALBOB
You mean they can't help the braindead?

They don't help old people who remember when the Dead sea was just sick either!

 

[Ginobili]

I think vpx products and ph's are good.

 

[shutupntra1n]

I have heard so many awesome outstanding things about VPX that I ordered some M1T... My friend (woman I might add) likes different companies but religously proclaims that VPX is the most consistant and reputable for PH to date!

 

[Arnold]

I have heard so many awesome outstanding things about VPX that I ordered some M1T...

please tell me that you're not going to use M1T?

 

[shutupntra1n]

please tell me that you're not going to use M1T?

I could tell you that but that would be lying

 

[shutupntra1n]

I have several close female bb friends that frequent ph use such as m1-t and many others and have had phenominal gains without sides accept temp acne on back n such. When it comes to that sorta thing I prefer to ask female friends that actually use the product themselves rather than a man that is telling me what I can read myself. I understand where you are coming from but one thing I have learned is that I rather learn from a female about certain things than a male b/c of experience purposes.

 

[Arnold]

I could tell you that but that would be lying

I highly advise against a female using M1T!

It is an androgenic steroid that will cause male characterisitcs including deeper voice, enlarged clitoris, facial hair growth, oily skin, cessation of menstrual periods, etc. and they can be irreversable!

If you must use a methylated steroid at least go for Methyl-d, not M1T, or forget the methylated steroids alltogether and try a nor-andro like Dermabolics NorDerm. Nor's are anabolic but not very androgenic and the best choice for females, similar to using the steroid Deca.

 

[shutupntra1n]

I've already used Nor ph before. I know of many women with great result from other ph such as M1T. Everyone is not the same. If I notice any androgenic sides of course I wouldn't continue. That is the risk of taking them. I have been through this exact topic many times and every single man always says the same thing yet so many female bb friends of mine have great results with most ph.

 

[Arnold]

yeah, you're right, I really do not know what I am talking about.

btw, M1T is not a PH, it's anabolic steroid that should only be use by males, or females that want to turn into males.

good luck.

 

[shutupntra1n]

I did not say that you didn't know what you were talking about. I was simply saying that the information on ps and ph I have read thoroughly and you are only repeating what is printed on the label. I am willing to try it based on what I can see myself from bb friends of my own. Not that the info is incorrect but just as any product, it will affect people differently. (men or women)

 

[Vise]

i'm curious shutupntra1n, how high a does do your female friends take? i'm sure you hear this a lot but why risk it? sure you want to get bigger but is it worth the risks you are taking (possibly looking like the opposite sex is pretty high in my book). honestly, i know very little on the side of personal experience with ph or ps but i just worry that you could really fuck yourself up chasing your dream and end up in the long, run regretting your actions. i'm not trying to discourage you, for i see you are pretty set on your choice (hence the absence of scare tactics and such), i just want you to think about it some more b4 you walk headstrong into the fire. just a weak attempt to try to make you ponder the outcomes. i thought it was worth a try even if i am the subject of ridicule.

 

[madden player]

...M1T is not a PH, it's anabolic steroid that should only be use by males, or females that want to turn into males.

good luck.

She is definately going to need some good luck.

 

[shutupntra1n]

Lots of pursuading me but I don't see any of you telling me anything that I cannot read on the label. All due respect I am not going to respond to anymore posts on this thread b/c I am not going to argue with the same people over and over again when it's a pointless topic. I have done months of searching the internet and women never report on their use but plenty of them will pm me from different forums and email me telling me that they do but that they don't talk about it.

Vise-Most have taken recommended dose or less. I am not saying that there aren't going to be neg sides, but that my girlfriends have not had them besides mild temp acne. I am willing to try it and go from there. I will know at that point and decide for myself.

Might as well not repost... I do not feel the need to keep reposting to defend my goals or choices. Thanks for the concerned advice. Take care.

 

[gopro]

Directed at females in general...with M 1-T don't be shocked if...

-you pick up the phone and the telemarketer on the other end begins with, "Hello sir, my name is...."
-you need to buy more razors to cover shaving both your legs AND you face.
-like most guys, you decide you feel like measuring...your penis.
-nobody stops you when you accidentally walk into the men's room.

 

[bambam613]

hey gopro.......used both m1t and syngex back in january and feb.....felt good on the m1 test, not the syngex, then when I came off of m1test, felt really sluggish......

starting two weeks ago i took MAD, and felt great........no change in diet, still kept eatring clean......felt great pumps and increased drive at the gym......now on the down phase for one more week......then go back on for two final weeks......one question big E........what new supplements are out.....saw u talkin about CEX, new creatine......how is it? also did u get my email?????
Peace

 

[gopro]

hey gopro.......used both m1t and syngex back in january and feb.....felt good on the m1 test, not the syngex, then when I came off of m1test, felt really sluggish......

starting two weeks ago i took MAD, and felt great........no change in diet, still kept eatring clean......felt great pumps and increased drive at the gym......now on the down phase for one more week......then go back on for two final weeks......one question big E........what new supplements are out.....saw u talkin about CEX, new creatine......how is it? also did u get my email?????
Peace

Never got your email my friend. CEX is the best creatine I ever used. Great for strength and major pumps. Shoot me another email

 

[nikegurl]

If you must use a methylated steroid at least go for Methyl-d, not M1T, or forget the methylated steroids alltogether and try a nor-andro like Dermabolics NorDerm. Nor's are anabolic but not very androgenic and the best choice for females, similar to using the steroid Deca.

Actually - many people no longer think 19-nordiol is best for women after all. I've been told that the conversion enzymes in women are different than in men and diols are more likely to convert to estrogens in women. The diones are slightly preferred.

I've been advised that M4OHN and methyl-dien are better options for women b/c they don't require conversion at all.

I personally have had good luck (NO sides) with M4OHN.

By the way - I agree that M1T does initially sound damn scary but more b/c of how toxic it is than anything else. Some people (David Tolsom at Bulk Nutrition and Matt/Sledge from Designer Supps) have even asserted that M1T isn't as androgenic as many imagine it to be. Both think a woman could do well on a VERY low dose (1 - 2.5 mg / day for 2 weeks)

I'm not up for it myself at this time but have a female friend who has started this week under their guidance.