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Hello , I am new to these forums and I have been reading them for about 2 weeks...Well, these info boards are GREAT!!! It is good to know about products and people that use this or that product and post about their results...Anyways, I just spoke to a very knowledgeable VPX Products rep, "GOPRO" and this guy knows "THE STUFF"...Extemely cooool, answered everyone of my questions, pointed me in the right direction for certain types of supplements, and even gave me diet tips......I'm 43 years old, got married a couple years ago, gained too much weight, smoked, ate wrong etc....Finally about 6 months ago got on the weight training groove and healthier lifestyle, dropped 35+ LBS. and am LOVIN it!! I think with a company like VPX and a dude like GOPRO, my results will be that much more...I am going to order very soon some of their mass building products (1 Test, 4Test, 4 HT) CYPS. Will let you know my results..... Take care , Fernando