Wanna do this right, first cycle! :D

[connor1993]

As VictorZ06 asks, here are my stats :

1. 23, Ima be straight up with you guys. I know you may suggest I am too young but I have thought about this for a few years and am willing to take the risks.

2. I am only 5'8, so my weight is only 165 at a 10% bf. (I like being semi lean and making lean gains year round)

3. I am coming up on 4 years next month, I know its cheesy that I know this but its a funny story. It all started cuz my father wanted me to do p90x with him lolz.

4. So as far as cycle experience. I did a simple halo / epi pro hormone cycle nearly 2 years ago. I also admit I had no idea about anything I took but I gained 12 lbs post cycle.
I have however never pinned or taken anything since.

5. My training which many of you will consider over-training, consist of lifting usually 6 days a week. I typically do a chest, back, legs, arms, shoulders split. I space my days off accordingly depending on my work schedule and how my body feels. My diet is very flexible. I am currently not counting macros, just typically watching my carb intake. I know this is retarded but I am able to maintain my 10%-ish bf this way.

6. Lastly my goals. This is my first real cycle. I want what anyone wants to start a cycle for. To put on lean mass and increase strength. Best case scenario is to end up under 12% bf with 10 more lbs of muscle if not more.
Lastly I would like to add, I am into looking aesthetically pleasing and possibly competeing in physique or classic physique sometime this next year. Also I am very set at doing a safe dosage, especially for it being the first time taking these into my body!

Anyways here is what I was thinking...

D-bol as a kickstarter, week 1-4 @ 50mg ed

Test E week 1-12 @ 250mg twice week

Winny 5-12 @ 40mg ED

Arimidex 1-12 @ .5 ed

Nolva and clomid 14-17 40mg ed


So please critique, adjust and just suggest. I am a novice and been doing research religiously but of course...I do not know many things about gear! So please also take it easy on me

Thank you bro's in advance. Wanna do this right!

 

[Hardworkpayz]

In my opinion I didn't start a cycle until I was 30. Since you have a long time to go and your natural test is still close to its peak I would prob hold off on gear for a few years. Once you start it will never be the same. I think training and diet are more important than gear. You should look at you macros bc you might be surprised on how little or much your are eating. If a lean physic is what you are after the gear will not get you there without the diet. You should read the underground steroid handbook. It's free if you google it. The drugs are out dated but I think the philosophy is good. It presents questions to ask yourself before you start. If you have made up you mind I would stick to a test only cycle, you don't need the AI's unless you are experiencing the aromatization sides. I would include hcg in your pct. I the problem is once you start this road training will never be the same. Hope this helps.


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[connor1993]

In my opinion I didn't start a cycle until I was 30. Since you have a long time to go and your natural test is still close to its peak I would prob hold off on gear for a few years. Once you start it will never be the same. I think training and diet are more important than gear. You should look at you macros bc you might be surprised on how little or much your are eating. If a lean physic is what you are after the gear will not get you there without the diet. You should read the underground steroid handbook. It's free if you google it. The drugs are out dated but I think the philosophy is good. It presents questions to ask yourself before you start. If you have made up you mind I would stick to a test only cycle, you don't need the AI's unless you are experiencing the aromatization sides. I would include hcg in your pct. I the problem is once you start this road training will never be the same. Hope this helps.


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I fully understand bro and would honestly tell one of my buddies my age that was thinking about trying gear. I however am set on trying it. I have been on many macro counting days, that's how I got down to my bf% and maintained it.
I do want to get advice on the stack that im considering. If I am going to be pinning something, I'd like to not necessarily go balls to the wall but maximize the time im on gear. I have however considered test only. Nothing is set in stone yet !