What's the Tren cut-off amount before Caber should be used?

[pureprotein]

None of my guys carry Caber or Cabaser and I guess the quality gear is hard to find and since i'm ONLY looking for more Adex and some decent Caber, i'm not too happy about the min $ amounts on orders.
Anyways...I'm throwing in Tren-A to a test cycle and need to know what the cut-off amount is for an intermediate bulking cycle before prolactin sides will become an issue. I know that this isn't the most responsible method of cycling but the more knowledge and experience that I get from you guys the better!

will be my 5th cycle, never used tren, usually stuck with forms of test.

thanks
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[exerciseordie]

None of my guys carry Caber or Cabaser and I guess the quality gear is hard to find and since i'm ONLY looking for more Adex and some decent Caber, i'm not too happy about the min $ amounts on orders.
Anyways...I'm throwing in Tren-A to a test cycle and need to know what the cut-off amount is for an intermediate bulking cycle before prolactin sides will become an issue. I know that this isn't the most responsible method of cycling but the more knowledge and experience that I get from you guys the better!

will be my 5th cycle, never used tren, usually stuck with forms of test.

thanks
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You also could use prami or prolactrone. There are some other ways to keep prolactin in check also. Caber is the best way but hard to find legit caber bro

 

[D-Lats]

How do you know you even need it? I've run tren 10-15 times and never needed the shit. Run adex to control estrogen and you will be fine.

 

[NoviceAAS]

Controlling estrogen carefully helps, but you still could develop a prolactin issue. Hard to say how long it takes but for me the first thing I noticed when prolactin got high is that I had no interest in looking at porn , then the wife started really complaining when we hadnt had sex in two weeks, so I popped a viagra got hard and just didnt feel like putting in the effort . Some guys will get gyno from it and some will ooze milk from their nipples. In any case a blood test confirms suspicions then it sure is nice to have that caber on hand !

 

[jrock00123]

There is a constant controversy over whether tren actually raises prolactin levels. Has anyone ever had blood work that shows this to be true. Not saying that I take either stance. Just wondering if it's been proven.

 

[NoviceAAS]

There is a constant controversy over whether tren actually raises prolactin levels. Has anyone ever had blood work that shows this to be true. Not saying that I take either stance. Just wondering if it's been proven.

I have done blood work to find out that deca had caused a prolactin issue, and they are both 19NOR compounds . In all fairness though my prolactin did get out of control when my estro got high too. I have always suspected strict estrogen control helps keep the door shut on prolactin, but who wants to take the chance. And unlike Estrogen, prolactin can be as low as you want with no side effects. Plus Trenbelone is a progestin, and prolactin is a result of progestenic activity.

 

[_LG_]

If tren gives you prolactin issues, it's probably got nandralone in it.

 

[underscore]

I've only ran it once in the past but I never had any issues. I did try using prami at first but it made me feel like I was sleep walking at work. Like a zombie. So I just stopped taking it and never had any issues. I was running 500mg test-c and 250mg a week of tren-a 3 month cycle. I was using dex, however.

EDIT: To answer your question though, it's different for everyone. For me 500mg test and 250-300mg tren is no issue without using prami or caber.

 

[pureprotein]

Well thanks for all of the replies.... I know that everyone's body is different, especially how they react to different doses of Tren. I'm trying to pick to right dosage, or at least find out what the minimum would be before prolactin sides would most likely occur without running an anti-prolactin med. I always run Adex during my cycles for the estrogen but prolactin sides are new to me. You'll all be the first to know if I start shooting titty juice across the room!

 

[UA_Iron]

I can't cum on tren. I'm usually loaded up on cialis enough to get rock hard - throw a condom on and its just not gonna happen.

Tren is brutal on the sex drive. It is a progestin like deca and its extremely androgenic. Either of the two alone can cause issues.

This game is all a balancing act, no one's going to be able to tell you how much you need of whatever drug to combat whatever sides better than your own trial and error. Here's a 'general' rule of thumb: if you're fatter, take more antiestrogens. If you're leaner you can get away with less.

 

[vassille]

This is what i think from experience
tren 50mg ED low sides
tren 75mg ED medium sides got to watch it
tren 100mg ED High chance of sides (caber need it)
Aftger 6-7 weeks it doesnt matter of dosage it will kick your ass, worse side you cant cum and may get leaky nipples then game over unless you dont care about geting gyno which by the way I've seen in some ppl doing shows...sad!.

 

[theCaptn']

How do you know you even need it? I've run tren 10-15 times and never needed the shit. Run adex to control estrogen and you will be fine.

^^^^ best advices. Same deal here. Never needed it, even at 100mg ED.

 

[malk]

Running mast with tren is always a good option.,lowers sides and keeps libido
Higher.tbh i rate mast higher than tren anyways.

 

[Pittsburgh63]

I look at tren and gotta pop caber or prami. Like dlats said...some guys can just use an ai to keep estro in check and all is well.. not for me. Even at 300mg per week, I need to take and anti-prolactin/progesterone.

 

[tokijava]

I look at tren and gotta pop caber or prami. Like dlats said...some guys can just use an ai to keep estro in check and all is well.. not for me. Even at 300mg per week, I need to take and anti-prolactin/progesterone.

Pitt,
How did you know if you needed caber or prami?
If symptoms appear, isn't it too late? I will be using Tren for my second cycle and pondering about whether to get caber or prami


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[Pittsburgh63]

Pitt,
How did you know if you needed caber or prami?
If symptoms appear, isn't it too late? I will be using Tren for my second cycle and pondering about whether to get caber or prami


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Its not too late, but a lot harder to reverse than it is to prevent. Puffy, slightly enlarged nipples is the first sign...followed closely by painful lumps...eventually leading to lactation.

 

[tokijava]

Its not too late, but a lot harder to reverse than it is to prevent. Puffy, slightly enlarged nipples is the first sign...followed closely by painful lumps...eventually leading to lactation.

I had puffy and enlarged nipples when I was on my cycle, Test Cyp. I was taking adex to control estrogen. I thought it was a sign of gyno but The nipples didn't get painful lumps

Would you wait for symptoms to appear and then take caber or would you take caber from the beginning?


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[Pittsburgh63]

I had puffy and enlarged nipples when I was on my cycle, Test Cyp. I was taking adex to control estrogen. I thought it was a sign of gyno but The nipples didn't get painful lumps

Would you wait for symptoms to appear and then take caber or would you take caber from the beginning?


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I take either caber or prami from the start... like I said, its easier to prevent than it is to reverse.

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

How can I answer that for you? I cant.
We all metabolize hormones differently dependent upon many factors. CYP enzyme levels, pituitary issues etc.
If you get sexual sides or lactate you need it. If you manage e2 you wont get gyno - gyno in the absence of elevated e2 or out of wack androgen estrogen ratio will NOT happen.
Keep some cem prami on hand. Thats what I do.

 

[oufinny]

I ran NPP and I needed caber, I will surely use it with tren. I switched from letro to adex and my gyno returned, not bad but its there, so everybody is clearly different. Personally, I will pay for good caber and legit letro any day, until you have sore nips you don't know how uncomfortable that is. I got a titty twister at work and gasped for air it was excruciating but I can't say shit.

 

[The Prototype]

I ran NPP and I needed caber, I will surely use it with tren. I switched from letro to adex and my gyno returned, not bad but its there, so everybody is clearly different. Personally, I will pay for good caber and legit letro any day, until you have sore nips you don't know how uncomfortable that is. I got a titty twister at work and gasped for air it was excruciating but I can't say shit.

That's funny. I had a little gyno and it is painful. It hurt just to stretch it. I can't imagine getting a tittie twister. I'd probably fall on the ground crying.


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