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Kinda curious at who has used them and their experience.

I used them about 4 years ago, whenever I was competing. And I think this is the main reason I will never compete again. I get to the show and these guys and big as well. Here I am with one cycle and these guys were talking about they have did 6-10 cycles yadda yadda. Hell I was like 20 or 21 at the time.

So I took a cycle of Dbol-25 mg day, Test Enthante-500 mg week, and Deca-400 mg week.

I had good gains. I put on 35lbs. I was happy I thought steroids was the answer! But once I got done about 2 months after it seemed like I got fat! I was about 235 and felt like shit! That esculated to 250! I thought awww....I'll do something about it sometime. Well I got all the way up to 255. Thats where I drew the line. I wasnt lifting at this point anymore either. I decided to diet. I went from 255 all the way to 195. I lost everything I gained in the cycle and then some. My bench was only like 230! But I was much happier where I was compard to where I had been. The past 4 years is basically me trying to get back to where I was. While I dont blame steroids completly, I do blame myself for not being educated enough! I would never say, "hey buddy try a cycle!". I will never touch them again and I was an idiot for doing so.

My story has nothing to do with others who have taken them. If its done right maybe things will work out better than mine. But now I am much more about family, health, athletic ability, and simply being stronger on my own.

I would like to hear from others whether you have usd steroids or not. Thanks guys, kinda curious. Lets not make this a steroid hate or love thread.
 
The closest I ever came was a 3 week superdrol cycle but the thought of the side effects scared the fuck out of me and I never touched anything ever again and I never will. I educated myself with using, probably too much because I scared myself away from them and chose to stay natural.
 
Yeah the side effects had me itching my nipples the whole time. I was checking in the mirror constantly.
 
I did a 4 week cycle of some sublingual 1-test when i was young. Gained like 10 lbs or a little more and was happy. No noticeable sides and didn't lose a lb.

Did a 4 week cycle of transdermal 1-test when i was 18 and gained 16lbs with huge strength increases (but thats attributable to me getting away from bodybuidling workouts and moving toward functional/strength training). Again no sides kept it all.

I have had dry spells and have gotten out of shape throughout my lifting, but me becoming a fat mess is b/c i stopped/slowed down the training/dieting not because of the PH's or what not.
 
I have never used them or any of the prohormone stuff for that matter.

I don't ever plan to use black market steroids.

If I do get to a point in my life where my testosterone levels decrease to an unhealthy value, I do plan to go to a doctor and get horomone replacement therapy and use a small dosage needed to get me back to a healthy level, under the watch full eye of a medical professional.
 
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P-funk said:
I have never used them or any of the prohormone stuff for that matter.

I don't ever plan to use black market steroids.

If I do get to a point in my life where my testosterone levels decrease to an unhealthy value, I do plan to go to a doctor and get horomone replacement therapy and use a small dosage needed to get me back to a healthy level, under the watch full eye of a medical professional.
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Which is exactly my thoughts. I have always said that.

I lived and learned. I wont do em again, unless this situation occurs.
 
Bakerboy said:
Because I train for health so I have no real reason to.
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I wouldn't take anymore steroids, i am a very different person now from what i was 3-4 years ago.

I don't regret taking them, it is what it is as well as, no harm no foul.
 
Originally Posted by JFrost20
First of all there right you know what you're taking before you take it. But, ripped tabs are a cutting agent its not like superdrol or mass tabs where there is testicular atrophy. superdrol and bulking agents are on a completely different level period. Ripped tabs do not shut you down, but you still need pct like, an AI like rebounb xt, etc..But this is one of the more safer supps to take out there. Definitaly do not compare it to SD, which is one of the most toxic PH's

i believe that you might be wrong, good sir. it is quite difficult to identify the actives, as IDS uses uncommon and obscure nomenclature to hide the ingredients (from FDA/DEA or from the user?), as well as (intended or unintended) spelling errors such as to throw off the casual googler.

1,3,7-trimethyl-1h-2,6 (3H,7H) dione
5-alpha-pro stanzonol
17 hydroxy-17-methyl-etioallocholan

the first one 1,3,7-trimethyl-1h-2,6 (3H,7H) dione is easy: sounds cool, but it's just caffeine.

the next one 5-alpha-pro stanzonol is, in all probability (you can't be 100% sure, because of the spelling discrepancy, but it's sold as cutter, and as anabolic...), the same as the 5a steroids Prostanozolol, Orastan-E, WinZtrol, etc.. its basically unmethylated Winny. efficacy (and risk) greatly depends on dosing and duration. it is a comparatively weak compound, but it still is a steroid:


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it can be detected for quite some time after last use so its not advisable for drug tested athletes. Many have assumed otherwise due to the short half-life, but apparently some inactive metabolites are easily esterified, so they can be found up to 5 months after the last injection.

Winny is mostly quite well-tolerated in men. Cramps, headaches, elevated blood pressure and cholesterol levels and liver damage <this is the unmethylated variant, so this is lowered> are noted, but on a not so-frequent basis. Standard virilization symptoms associated with the stimulating of the androgen receptor, however, are a problem. Acne, prostate hypertrophy and an aggravation of male pattern baldness can occur, so use by women has to be discouraged.

the other one 17 hydroxy-17-methyl-etioallocholan?

somewhat more difficult, this is more like the generic name for many methylated steroids. but let's do some extrapolation. the description, unfortunately, seems incomplete. all you can derive is that it's a 17-hydroxy 17-methyl steroid, but not which one.

however, if we dig deeper we find the exactly same compound description in some older descriptions of another IDS(!) product, namely Sostonal-250. at that time, the compound descriptions of that read:

1. 3,17-Dihyroxy-4-Chlor-17alpha-Methyl-Etioallcholan-4-Ene
2. 3,17-Dihydroxy-17-Methyl Delta 1,4-Etiocholanone
3. 17-Hydroxy-17-Methyl--Etioallcholan

now, fortunately (well, maybe not), even after several changes of shell companies (e.g. Webber Pharmaceuticals) and product names, the exact selfsame product is still available, currently as Sustevol 250 from "Evo Labs", the current IDS shell. just the description on the label has been changed somewhat (maybe to appear compliant with FDA regs on labels?):

1. 4-Androstene-4-chloro-17a-methyl-3b,17b-diol
2. 2α, 17α-dimethyl-17β-hydroxy-5α-androstan-3-one
3. 17α-methyl-17β-hydroxy-5α-androst-2-ene

all 3 components have now been clearly identified. compound 1 is H-50 clone, compound 2 is SD clone, and compound 3, which is the one we seek to identify, is a PP clone. this fits well, and 5a-andro is just another chemical way to write etioallocholan. PP however is Madol is DMT, a very basic and inexpensive compound.

thusly, i would infer with 80% probability that IDS Rip-Off Tabs are a mixture of Phera-Plex (aka. DMT, desoxymethyltestosterone, or Madol) and unmethylated Winny.

my reasoning may be flawed, and there is an estimated 20% likelihood that I'm wrong, and instead of having unmethyletd Winny and DMT/PP at unknown doses, we have something entirely unknown at unknown doses (and now guess which is worse).

oh yeah, and the Epi/Havoc story also shows: it may - known or unknown to the vendor - not even be what's on the label.

the thinking behind putting PP in a "cutting" mix is somewhat unclear (as if IDS would care), but probably goes along the line that PP will provide fast gains in strength and mass, while bloat is somewhat under control by adding Winny. also, as stated, DMT is an extremely inexpensive anabolic source material (it's practically the base from which many other steroids are derived).

this is probably not the greatest cutting agent there is. and user logs seem to verify this.

anyway, i would be super-careful when toying around with this. do not ever believe any marketing claims for any product without verifying the label contents. to blindly trust a company which sells methylated designer steroids via shell companies seems somewhat... optimistic.
 
I have used before but its been awhile. I feel just fine staying off the stuff for awhile, maybe permanently.
 
Drugs are bad....
 
Nope. Was curious and have taken everything else that's illegal (narcotic), but have since given that up and don't plan on touching steroids. As I have not desire to bulk up big, There would be no point.
 
Double D said:
Kinda curious at who has used them and their experience.

I used them about 4 years ago, whenever I was competing. And I think this is the main reason I will never compete again. I get to the show and these guys and big as well. Here I am with one cycle and these guys were talking about they have did 6-10 cycles yadda yadda. Hell I was like 20 or 21 at the time.

So I took a cycle of Dbol-25 mg day, Test Enthante-500 mg week, and Deca-400 mg week.

I had good gains. I put on 35lbs. I was happy I thought steroids was the answer! But once I got done about 2 months after it seemed like I got fat! I was about 235 and felt like shit! That esculated to 250! I thought awww....I'll do something about it sometime. Well I got all the way up to 255. Thats where I drew the line. I wasnt lifting at this point anymore either. I decided to diet. I went from 255 all the way to 195. I lost everything I gained in the cycle and then some. My bench was only like 230! But I was much happier where I was compard to where I had been. The past 4 years is basically me trying to get back to where I was. While I dont blame steroids completly, I do blame myself for not being educated enough! I would never say, "hey buddy try a cycle!". I will never touch them again and I was an idiot for doing so.

My story has nothing to do with others who have taken them. If its done right maybe things will work out better than mine. But now I am much more about family, health, athletic ability, and simply being stronger on my own.

I would like to hear from others whether you have usd steroids or not. Thanks guys, kinda curious. Lets not make this a steroid hate or love thread.
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A few observations:

  • That's overkill for a first cycle.
  • The fact you got fat has nothing to do with steroids "making you fat." It's diet.

  • The fact you lost muscle has nothing to do with losing all your gains when you come off steroids, it has to do with either diet, improper PCT, or lack of training after cycle.
 
BigDyl said:
[*]The fact you got fat has nothing to do with steroids "making you fat." It's diet.
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I agree, people often screw up with diet their first time. I know I did and I felt bloated and unhealthy when I first hit the 230s, poor diet was to blame.


[*]The fact you lost muscle has nothing to do with losing all your gains when you come off steroids, it has to do with either diet, improper PCT, or lack of training after cycle.
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Who knows, I know I can maintain 240+ without even trying (I lost weight in order to fight), but I am not 100% of what I was while on gear. At some point of course it will get increasingly difficult to maintain what someone gained while on gear.

I should add that from what I can tell, I honestly don't feel any different off of gear other than I am not as superman-like. I don't feel 'better' as if I was doing something wrong, my BP is about the same, although I'm sure my LDL has come down a little (I was always under 200 total though).
 
femalemuscle ;)

my ex did them a couple times while i was with him. i swear to god his weenie shrunk.....*blush*
 
SYN said:
femalemuscle ;)

my ex did them a couple times while i was with him. i swear to god his weenie shrunk.....*blush*
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You're female?
 
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