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Who is tired of hearing about Hillary and Obama?

Who is tired of hearing about Hillary and Obama?


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In your mind, what would happen if we pulled out of Iraq?

The same thing that happened when we pulled out of Afghanistan... After promising to help, it got unpopular to stay and we pulled out leaving a bunch of religious extremists pissed off at us because we didn't follow through like we promised. So then they hate us and stage more terrorist attacks.

Remember that Bin Laden's hatred for the US stemmed from when we stopped helping him in Afghanistan
 
Factor in future interest and lost opportunity and you're at 3 trillion or so. Either way, both methods waste shit tons of money.

Ok, lets use your number. Thats about 23% of the SHORTFALL of social security alone.

The beginning of another entitlement program which we will be trapped in for decades if not centuries, subsidizing yet another expense of the welfare-class at the expense of the working class and business class, is the last thing America needs. It will be exponentially more costly than the occupation of Iraq.
 
Ok, lets use your number. Thats about 23% of the SHORTFALL of social security alone.

The beginning of another entitlement program which we will be trapped in for decades if not centuries, subsidizing yet another expense of the welfare-class at the expense of the working class and business class, is the last thing America needs. It will be exponentially more costly than the occupation of Iraq.

But it will be helping American people, and since it is being paid for with American tax dollars, I am more ok with that than giving all of our tax money to Iraq while they rake in the oil money. I am not for welfare, I am for a system that eventually weens people off of it, but your comparison is horrible.
 
But it will be helping American people, and since it is being paid for with American tax dollars, I am more ok with that than giving all of our tax money to Iraq while they rake in the oil money. I am not for welfare, I am for a system that eventually weens people off of it, but your comparison is horrible.

You'd rather waste money on another bloated, corrupt, inefficient, socialized entitlement program than the occupation of Iraq?

How about neither?
 
NeilPearson said:
Remember that Bin Laden's hatred for the US stemmed from when we stopped helping him in Afghanistan

This is 100% false, I suggest you read up on the US involvement in the Russian-Afghan war and Bin Laden/Zawahiri's (and other foreign fighters) involvement before making any remarks on it.

We never helped Bin Laden. Bin Laden, Zawahiri, and the US Gov't all say this, but maybe you know better than they do. :confused:
 
I wish the Circus would go ahead and leave town.

Argue 'till you pass out, fellahs. At this point the political machine is doing doughnuts in the parking lot.

:rolleyes:
 
I love both ,they are really struggling hard to achieve their goal . There is an interesting fight is going on between them . Lets see which of both becomes the democratic nominee for the presidential election .
 
This is 100% false, I suggest you read up on the US involvement in the Russian-Afghan war and Bin Laden/Zawahiri's (and other foreign fighters) involvement before making any remarks on it.

We never helped Bin Laden. Bin Laden, Zawahiri, and the US Gov't all say this, but maybe you know better than they do. :confused:

I'm not interested in the truth. My story sounds better and I am sticking to it.
 
You'd rather waste money on another bloated, corrupt, inefficient, socialized entitlement program than the occupation of Iraq?

How about neither?

If I had to choose, I would go:

1)Neither
2)Lazy Americans
3)Iraqis

I feel there has been benefit to the Iraqi people, and I believe they are grateful. I also believe we have a better chance of seeing god or allah before getting any penny back from Iraq's gov't. I feel there are many Americans who abuse the welfare system, but see there is potential for actual payback in sales tax for their cigarettes and malt liquor as well as income tax from their $10k a year job. I see Iraq eventually becoming independent and not paying us back. Fix our problems first, then police the world.

I would like to see shit jobs subsidized by the gov't, people on welfare taking those shit jobs or left to rot, and given food, clothing, and a place to live in exchange. It is essentially what they do with the military anyway. I would actually like to see military/gov't service as a pre-requisite for welfare to be honest with you.
 
This is 100% false, I suggest you read up on the US involvement in the Russian-Afghan war and Bin Laden/Zawahiri's (and other foreign fighters) involvement before making any remarks on it.

We never helped Bin Laden. Bin Laden, Zawahiri, and the US Gov't all say this, but maybe you know better than they do. :confused:

True, the U.S. would never support corrupt regimes, or interests...

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We've jumped from one side to the other (Iraq/Iran) so many times its rediculous.

When this latest nonsense began, we should have pulled everybody out of the region and brought in the stealth bombers, wing tip to wing tip, and turned the whole damn place into a big ash tray.

I just wish the powers that be would grow some balls and tell the American people the truth. What is our true motivation? The liberation of a people? Oil? Boredom?
 
True, the U.S. would never support corrupt regimes, or interests...

What exactly does this have to do with the Afghan-Russian conflict and the US's involvement in said conflict? Nothing? OK, just making sure.
 
It has everything to do with it because history repeats itself

Huh?

The US did not support Osama or Zawahiri, how exactly does the US's involvement in Iran/Iraq prove otherwise?
 
I'm always tired of hearing about any American politics. There's never a time where I'm looking forward to hearing about American politics. I hear enough about our shit politics at home in Canada...

Aye if only Ralph Klein was still Premier:daydream:
 
I think the hilarious thing is that conservatives still believe the ole fear-and-smear tactics are going to work again this time around, as if they believe the American people are so overwhelmingly stupid that they can't figure out the con-game.

One interesting fact this primary season was that, even when the GOP field was full of candidates, the top vote getter in the Democratic presidential primary often received more votes than most of the Republican candidates combined. And since people are getting wise to the "anything but far-right is liberal" line of manure from "conservatives," the wingnuts aren't even strong enough to get a single one of their candidates to the finish line. None.

So far, the "conservative" pundits have raged about McSame being the nominee, calling him a "liberal" (as if that is some bad word to anyone BUT the far Right) and yet continue to be incapable of coming up with anything more than the Rovian namecalling made so famous during the Bush campaign years. Add that to the reality that McSame was tossed under the bus eight years ago by Republicans infatuated by every con game manufactured by the Bush campaign, and there ain't gonna be much trust in any Republican candidate.

How is it playing in the country? Well, just last week the Republicans lost another congressional seat, this time in Dennis Hastart's district, an area which was redrawn especially to protect an overwhelmingly Republican voting base and keep the GOP in office. How did they lose it? They ran another crazy-ass wingnut who tried the same tired fear-and-smear routine.

Tell you what I for one being in the military hope to fuck that we do not get some lib in office...they have no back bone and dont know when to say enough is enough...hell theyd prolly team up with al queda...which is why I vote for conservatives...they dont put up with shit and stick to their convictions...just what we need in this day and age...who wants a fuckin terrorist as president anyways...referring to obama who was raised by a terrorist producing school in Kenya I am very familiar with and also who wants some bitch that thinks shes the fuckin messiah....not me and Im for damn sure most of America agrees. If im wrong Ill tell ya...were fucked...they wont do anything bout terrorism and it is very real....its not a myth like you libs think...Why do you think Iranians are training people to come into Iraq and Israel and terrorize...they want us dead...you think they would hesitate if they had the chance...fuck know....so I say fuck that...and have someone who will fuck those motherfuckers up.
 
True, the U.S. would never support corrupt regimes, or interests...

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guess what it was a liberal who put usama in power and a lib who input hussein....so I dont wanna hear this shit...that pic is mere diplomacy...please dont comment people unless you know what you are talking about or have been in the conflicts. If it werent for conservatives we might be in nuke war with soviets....your libs being old clinton had 4 chances to dismantle usama....from a source of a friend of mine that used to work at the DOD...so dont pull that bs on me.
 
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Easy there cowboy. Your style of foreign policy is exactly why we are in this current economic crisis, and exactly why countries all over the world that used to admire us now despise America.
 
Democrats can't even run a primary election--look at the mess they are in now with Michigan/Florida/Superdelegates--and yet expect people to give them the reins of the country.

They didn't get to run the Florida primary - the Republicans tried to dictate the date.

Michigan knew it was breaking the rules, too and they were warned well ahead of their action.

By the way, the primaries still went just fine.
 
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Tell you what I for one being in the military hope to fuck that we do not get some lib in office...they have no back bone and dont know when to say enough is enough...hell theyd prolly team up with al queda...which is why I vote for conservatives...they dont put up with shit and stick to their convictions...just what we need in this day and age...who wants a fuckin terrorist as president anyways...referring to obama who was raised by a terrorist producing school in Kenya I am very familiar with and also who wants some bitch that thinks shes the fuckin messiah....not me and Im for damn sure most of America agrees. If im wrong Ill tell ya...were fucked...they wont do anything bout terrorism and it is very real....its not a myth like you libs think...Why do you think Iranians are training people to come into Iraq and Israel and terrorize...they want us dead...you think they would hesitate if they had the chance...fuck know....so I say fuck that...and have someone who will fuck those motherfuckers up.

:roflmao:

Well, that counts McSame out.
 
guess what it was a liberal who put usama in power and a lib who input hussein....so I dont wanna hear this shit...that pic is mere diplomacy...please dont comment people unless you know what you are talking about or have been in the conflicts. If it werent for conservatives we might be in nuke war with soviets....your libs being old clinton had 4 chances to dismantle usama....from a source of a friend of mine that used to work at the DOD...so dont pull that bs on me.


Uh-huh. :roflmao:

I'll bet you hear a lot of Rush Limbaugh.
 
:roflmao:

Well, that counts McSame out.

hey fucknut McCain was in the military as an officer...Im pretty sure tha man has backbone and can effectively run the military....He is well more qualified than any of the liberal crew...He has my vote...he may be liberal in certain areas but the man knows how to command and thats all that counts... barack osama and hitler clinton have no commanding experience...thats what trully counts.
 
hey fucknut McCain was in the military as an officer...Im pretty sure tha man has backbone and can effectively run the military....He is well more qualified than any of the liberal crew...He has my vote...he may be liberal in certain areas but the man knows how to command and thats all that counts... barack osama and hitler clinton have no commanding experience...thats what trully counts.

Hey "fucknut", how about providing some rational argument instead of trying to whine until you get your way?

Knowing how to command an army doesn't mean jack shit in politics, that is what subordinate commanders are for. The use of military force is a sign of failure, not success.
 
Hey "fucknut", how about providing some rational argument instead of trying to whine until you get your way?

Knowing how to command an army doesn't mean jack shit in politics, that is what subordinate commanders are for. The use of military force is a sign of failure, not success.

Go without us then fuqtard and die...thats whatll happen and a person who doesnt know how to command will do the same...it has everything to do...politics mean nothing when it comes to capability...I think you need to learn the difference my friend.
 
Go without us then fuqtard and die...thats whatll happen and a person who doesnt know how to command will do the same...it has everything to do...politics mean nothing when it comes to capability...I think you need to learn the difference my friend.

Congratulations, 1 post and you've already been branded as a moron for life. I will not get in a pissing match with someone with so little intellect or information to bring to the table. Please do us a favor and do not vote in this upcoming election. You are a part of the problem, not the solution.

/ignored
 
Congratulations, 1 post and you've already been branded as a moron for life. I will not get in a pissing match with someone with so little intellect or information to bring to the table. Please do us a favor and do not vote in this upcoming election. You are a part of the problem, not the solution.

/ignored

Im in the military ya dumbass...whadya expect out of a liberal...I hear the stuff from the source you learn from the media...the source is truth...the media is all about money...that was moronic and very low intellect for you to say to me buddy.
 
Im in the military ya dumbass...whadya expect out of a liberal...I hear the stuff from the source you learn from the media...the source is truth...the media is all about money...that was moronic and very low intellect for you to say to me buddy.

And the military doesn't censor information or "truth." Instead, they hand out "press" credentials to people like Matt Sanchez, who "reports" from the troops using direct quotes of their unexpressed thoughts, which in turn is widely published in conservative media.
 
hey fucknut McCain was in the military as an officer...Im pretty sure tha man has backbone and can effectively run the military....He is well more qualified than any of the liberal crew...He has my vote...he may be liberal in certain areas but the man knows how to command and thats all that counts... barack osama and hitler clinton have no commanding experience...thats what trully counts.


Really? That's why the "fucknut" McSame, who came from a fairly distinguished military family, managed to finish near the bottom of his class at the military academy, crashed three Navy training planes, and, according to the Bush operatives who campaigned against him in the 2000 election, collaborated readily with the North Vietnamese and Soviets for special privileges.

If "commanding" experience is the only qualification for being President of the United States, why not just have a military dictatorship? And why give Bush and multiple-deferment Cheney such a free pass to "command" for the past seven years, when neither of them had enough experience to lead and ant column?

So McSame might be "liberal" in some areas? I'd sure like to know what areas they are - beyond being an admitted adulterer. But given the number of other adulterers present in the GOP clown car during this season's primaries, the people didn't have many choices of moral or ethical candidates.
 
Huh?

The US did not support Osama or Zawahiri, how exactly does the US's involvement in Iran/Iraq prove otherwise?

... I already told you, I am not interested in hearing your truth. It is no fun and doesn't support my theories
 
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