Why is injectable winny so popular but not dbol/drol/var etc?

[Digitalash]

It seems like everyone carries injectable winny but it's pretty uncommon to see the other orals in injectable form, any real reason for this? Is there really much benefit to making them injectable or is absorption etc. about the same?

 

[overburdened]

winny was made in injectable form by a pharm company, as was dbol(for veterinary use)... I have seen inj drol by ugl, never var though.... that would be my guess as to why people carry winny... inj dbol isn't very effective, and since its in propylene glycol it causes massive swelling at inj site... I got a bottle one time cause I was curious, put 3 cc in one glute.. then had to go home and put 3 in the other glute cause my pants kept going sideways cause one side was so much bigger than the other... looked like I had two basketballs down the back of my pants..

 

[Digitalash]

lol nice image

why does inj dbol need propylene glycol in it? Can't just use BA/bb/EO/guaicol etc? What makes it not very effective? I know I've seen them made at least dbol/drol and heard of inj var once or twice but they don't seem popular at all, while winny is everywhere

 

[overburdened]

it more than likely has to do with solubility issues(I've never looked into it as far as dbol is concerned...it's 100x more effective orally).. as far as inj winny... i feel it is much better, precontest, than tabs... seems to get you drier... I won't do winny tabs close to a show, in fact the only reason I even have winny tabs is for when I'm taking tren(and some will disagree with antiprogesterone effects, but it works great for me)

 

[overburdened]

I'll elaborate on this with a theory I have...
This part is proven fact..when methylated oral steroids hit the liver in a bolus(all at once) dose(such as when eaten), they cause somatamedin-c(igf-1) release.... this igf1 release from liver is severely blunted by a trickle dose going through the liver...

this part is my theory:
this Igf1 release potentiates the action of the aas... especially certain aas that work somewhat differently than most(non ar mediated), such as dbol....
other side of the coin...winny tabs causing release of igf1 can be good(unless you are wanting absolutely zero water retention)... then its not so good...(precontest)...
this is a very basic description of my theory on orals(vs inj of those orals), and why the oral itself is much more potent than the inj version of same oral

 

[Digitalash]

I actually would've never thought of that, but it sorta makes sense put that way. reps bro Edit: gotta spread some around before repping you again lol

 

[overburdened]

lol...
that theory kinda explains my blood sugar crashes about 30min after taking dbol or drol(mainly only orals I use other than proviron)..if I take them on empty stomach...just a theory, but I think there is some validity to it... I would like to hear SloppyJ input on this too, since he is good with this type stuff too...

 

[teezhay]

I don't know why anyone would want injectable dbol. You'll need to be pinning it four or five times a day for optimal efficacy...plus the test foundation you should be taking, and any other AAS, as well as some HCG...You'll be burning through at least 15 syringes every couple days, and as many as 50 in a single week. And if you change out the needle after drawing the oil like I do? Well then say goodbye to 100 needles in a single week. Forget about it. I don't want to be ordering 700 syringes for a single cycle.

 

[Digitalash]

I see your point but I doubt many people even take oral dbol 4-5 times a day, and if it was injectible I definitely don't see it happening.


I agree it's kinda a dumb idea except in two cases I can see it being ok. Mixing it with TNE for a preworkout blend (though of course you could just pin the TNE and take some dbol tabs lol). OR, IF and that's a big if as I really don't know if this is the case, but if the absorption is better then something expensive like var might be worth it?

That same logic of frequent dosing could be applied to winny though no? and that's fairly common

 

[overburdened]

absorption from oral dbol is over 80%... you don't have to pin inj dbol that often, as it takes time to make its way out of the muscle... ed works..but the shit sucks!

 

[RockShawn]

This may sound stupid, but can you inject winny in water sub q?

Also I was told the compound still goes through the liver the same whether injected or oral.

What would be the benefits of oil based winny?

 

[overburdened]

it goes through the liver, yes... but bolus dose, no... winny is very painful to inject, I would imagine it being worse subq, but never tried.. might ask heavy that q..oil based winny would hurt less, no real benefit cause precontest you want to limit oils(and winny is more potent orally)...maybe for the people that cant handle the pain of water winny(of course that pretty much defeats the purpose of not taking winny tabs precomp, since oil is going to not help with the 'drying' effect as much.. might as well eat it at that point