Will Non-Christians go to Hell?

[Bazooka Tooth]

Do non-Christians even want to goto Heaven? Do they care?
That's the question....

Im not talking about anyone in here, but for someone who isnt religious ask

"Since Im not religious, will I goto Heaven?" Sounds weird to me....I mean it sounds like you believe in Heaven and Hell....and as if you care....so what is it about religion that you don't accept?

Am I not correct?

 

[gococksDJS]

Gococks

I dont buy what Darwin has to say. It stems from my religion and my own thought process, but some of his stuff seems a little... Not right to me. But, I havent done enough research to pull out different quotes from him and say, Oh, this is wrong, and so is this. So, Id really rather not say anything else about him, cuz I dont want to just be spewing BS.

But you have done enough research about God and religion to tell others what will and won't send them to hell? Or are you spewing BS?

 

[Rocco32]

Am I not correct?

Quite a few people who are not Christian still believe in an concept of Heaven. It means different things of course to each person depending on their beliefs.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

Personally, I believe that children, those still with innocence ((a very vague, loose term)), those who have never heard the Gospel, all go to Heaven.

Rocco, from everything I've read, there is no "second chance" to repent after life has been lived. I cant quote scripture, but, I just get that feeling. Because after you die, there is no waiting room. Its either straight to Hell, or Heaven. No time, or place to say, "WAIT, GOD, I changed my mind!"

 

[gococksDJS]

But you have done enough research about God and religion to tell others what will and won't send them to hell? Or are you spewing BS?

Actually I retract this statement because religion is based on faith and science on proof. They are two totally different aspects. Sorry Fish.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

But you have done enough research about God and religion to tell others what will and won't send them to hell? Or are you spewing BS?

Lol, Ive done enough on God and Heaven, that part isnt BS, I assure you.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

Sorry Fish.

Im sorry bro, I was being a jerk. I really got in over my head, and I bugged, lol.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

Otherwise why wouldn't you go to the gym on Sunday instead!?!?
(Scare Tactics)

My gym is closed on Sundays, and I usually dont go to Church sunday. God doesnt hate me because of it.

 

[silencer]

Has anybody watched the documentary "The God Who wasn't There" ...

 

[dougnukem]

Who says it has to be in this life? I don't believe you even need to accept it. It was an act done for the redemption of all mankind. What about those who never hear? What about children? And why would someone who was not raised in Christian faith (meaning they don't question their beliefs) buy into christianity?

And this is why I believe all faiths are actually derived from the same entity. Everyone is putting there faith in the same sentient being, whether they realize it or not. This is how I relate the passages in the Bible about being accepted into heaven by hearing the word and allowing Christ anto your life to be true for all religions. If they are not "Christian", but still have a faith based religion; ie: Muslim, Jewish, even Hinduism, they will be granted salvation. The Bible is just one interpretation of how a group of people follow God's way.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

Am I not correct?

Yes you are. I wonder why people who do not believe in the rest of Judeo-Christian beliefs are so worried about whether they go to hell or heaven, both of which are Judeo-Christian concepts.

Before anyone asks, yes, there are similar concepts in other religions, but the "heaven" and "hell" Im talking about are the ones described in The Bible.

 

[Bazooka Tooth]

Quite a few people who are not Christian still believe in an concept of Heaven. It means different things of course to each person depending on their beliefs.

That's true, I guess I meant people who arent religious, not just dont believe in Christianity

 

[dougnukem]

Personally, I believe that children, those still with innocence ((a very vague, loose term)), those who have never heard the Gospel, all go to Heaven.

Rocco, from everything I've read, there is no "second chance" to repent after life has been lived. I cant quote scripture, but, I just get that feeling. Because after you die, there is no waiting room. Its either straight to Hell, or Heaven. No time, or place to say, "WAIT, GOD, I changed my mind!"

but what about the people that are dying that ask for forgiveness? Just like the thiefs that were being crucified next to Jesus. They repented right then and there, and Jesus forgave them. So the same should still hold true.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

And this is why I believe all faiths are actually derived from the same entity. Everyone is putting there faith in the same sentient being, whether they realize it or not. This is how I relate the passages in the Bible about being accepted into heaven by hearing the word and allowing Christ anto your life to be true for all religions. If they are not "Christian", but still have a faith based religion; ie: Muslim, Jewish, even Hinduism, they will be granted salvation. The Bible is just one interpretation of how a group of people follow God's way.

Ive heard this interpretation before, and I find it irresponsible of myself to acknowledge it, but, COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICALLY, Im good either way.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

but what about the people that are dying that ask for forgiveness? Just like the thiefs that were being crucified next to Jesus. They repented right then and there, and Jesus forgave them. So the same should still hold true.

Hold on, hold on. That is in life. If, in your last dying breath you HONESTLY ask God to forgive you, and accept Christ's gift, then you are saved. Im saying that there IS NO CHANCE, AFTER YOU HAVE DIED, to repent. In life, at any given moment, you may repent (repent being accepting Christ) and be saved.

 

[silencer]

If anyone is interested I'm willing to send the documentary "The God Who wasn't There" via your chosen method, after watching this maybe peoples questions might become a little more sensible.

 

[dougnukem]

Ive heard this interpretation before, and I find it irresponsible of myself to acknowledge it, but, COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICALLY, Im good either way.

It's not anymore irresponsible of you to except as it would be for a Muslim to accept a Christian, or a Hindu to believe a Rabbi as a religious leader. It's just how we are brought up in our own individual faiths.

 

[NeilPearson]

My body will go in the grave. The soul goes to heaven or hell. That passage does not support you position at all.

The thing you are missing is "the grave" and "hell" are just different translations of the same words SHEOL or HADEES.

There is no difference. That is my whole point, while "hell" does exist in the bible it is not a place where you are conscious of anything. It is the grave

 

[NeilPearson]

The Bible is clear...you accept Christ as you Lord and Savior, you go to Heaven. You don't, you don't.

The bible is clear... you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior, you have eternal life. You don't, you don't... I don't believe it is clear about going to heaven.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

I find your comment innacurate. Christ often made comments about hell as a place "outside of heaven", or, into the lake of fire, or, just cast you out, etc. where there will be a weeping and a gnashing of teeth. Hell is a place outside of Heaven, without God, where you will be conscious, and it will not be enjoyable.

 

[NeilPearson]

I just was proving the bible's mention of the existence of hell. That is what you asked if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, the bible is clear. Death exists. We all know that though. Anyone that has ever lost a loved one realizes that.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

- Semantics,... Aversion

wtf? Huuuunh? Okay, ask me an actual question, and Ill be glad to answer it.

 

[dougnukem]

Hold on, hold on. That is in life. If, in your last dying breath you HONESTLY ask God to forgive you, and accept Christ's gift, then you are saved. Im saying that there IS NO CHANCE, AFTER YOU HAVE DIED, to repent. In life, at any given moment, you may repent (repent being accepting Christ) and be saved.

That's something I have always steered away from. Trying to figure out what happens right after you die. I see your view on it, and that's why I don't think into too much. I can't honestly say that I know God wouldn't accept me into Heaven upon my death. A sort of "Too late, your going to Hell, you should have repented sooner deal."

 

[FishOrCutBait]

Yes, the bible is clear. Death exists. We all know that though. Anyone that has ever lost a loved one realizes that.

Life and death exist. There are 2 things after death, either heaven, or hell.

 

[Nick+]

Hold on, hold on. That is in life. If, in your last dying breath you HONESTLY ask God to forgive you, and accept Christ's gift, then you are saved. Im saying that there IS NO CHANCE, AFTER YOU HAVE DIED, to repent. In life, at any given moment, you may repent (repent being accepting Christ) and be saved.

The increadable arrogance of a religion- be it Christianity,Islam,Juddaism whatever............

 

[FishOrCutBait]

The increadable arrogance of a religion- be it Christianity,Islam,Juddaism whatever............

Call it what you will. Im not sad, I dont see how it is a bad thing, Im not hurting anyone with it, nor am I persecuting anyone because of it.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

Of course they're going to say that...

Otherwise why wouldn't you go to the gym on Sunday instead!?!?

(Scare Tactics)

Okay, clarify for me, Who is THEY?

Pronouns arent very helpful when it is unclear which noun you are referring to, my friend.

 

[Nick+]

Call it what you will. Im not sad, I dont see how it is a bad thing, Im not hurting anyone with it, nor am I persecuting anyone because of it.

True you are not hurting anyone..., just don't push your views to the extreme (as say happens in the Middle East)

 

[NeilPearson]

Actually the origins of hell come from the Greek mythologies. So what did you vote?

Like it has been pointed out "hell" exists in the bible but the meaning of the word was simply the place of the dead or state of being dead. No consciousness or judgement was attached to the word... this was added years later (from Greek mythologies) by the Catholic Church so they could control people better and get them to pay their church taxes.

 

[silencer]

Call it what you will. Im not sad, I dont see how it is a bad thing, Im not hurting anyone with it, nor am I persecuting anyone because of it.

Maybe you aren't personally, but look at the fucking inquisition and all the pain and suffering christianity has caused. I mean for fuck sakes, People try and Exert pressure on you to believe that unless you convert to christian faith you will go to some shithole called hell. "Hay dude, ya know if you don't accept The Jewish Rabbi who died 2000 years ago into yourlife You are fucked forever, uh huh!" ...get real.