FishOrCutBait said:
Kind of like they take Son of God out of context to mean that he is God
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Will Non-Christians go to Hell?
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Kind of like they take Son of God out of context to mean that he is God
Rocco32 said:
Today's version of Christian's is full of pagan believes, customs, symbols and practices.
FishOrCutBait said:
Read my post a few pages ago that look at some of these passages. Show me some of these passages that show hell is a conscious place. Or show me a single passage that shows that hell is the lake of fire. They are two different things... that is how hell and death are cast into the lake of fire in Revelations and destroyed. This is not possible if they are the same.
There are a few passages that could be interpreted that way but are taken out of context. I believe I have already addressed most of them.
Nick+ said:I know I'm not supposed to vote on that poll ( being a filthy heathen) but I just had to vote 'no'.......... Can't believe how many people voted 'yes' or 'unsure'.....
Burn in Hell!! j/k Seriously, I voted "don't know" because I honestly, don't know. The traditionalist in me, says how can you judge those that haven't heard the word? While the realist says that people know right from wrong, and it's not really a matter of following the "Christian" way, but doing what is right.
FishOrCutBait said:
Prove it.
Jesus went to hell until he was ressurected.
Job prayed to go to hell to end his suffering.
At the time of judgement. Hell offered up it's dead to be judged... yup that's right they weren't judged yet and were in hell.
When Jacob was mourning for his son Joseph, whom he thought had been killed, he said:
"I shall go down mourning to my son into she'ol" (Genesis 37:35).
Sheol has been translated as hell or grave in different passages since they are the same thing
in Ecclesiastes 9:10, we read:
"All that your hand finds to do, do with all your power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in she'ol, (KJV "grave", Douay "hell") the place to which you are going."
"For in death there is no remembrance of you; In she'ol (KJV "the grave") who will give you thanks?" (Psalm 6:5).
I have NO Idea why, maybe its just the SHEER IGNORANCE which is getting to me. But for someone not to Question his/her Faith and ultimate belief in this world and what follows seems to me to be Entirely RETARDED. To Follow a Religion which is VERY SKETCHY for a start, try to Exert this religion on other people in a violent manner(in the past) and other ways...I mean damnit, its just not right. Religion was there to guide people to become civilised and to believe that their Shitty lives centuries ago was a test...and all the crap they went through was not in vein, furthermore the Church Clergy made a SHIT LOAD of cash and of course they wanted people to believe in it. The Holy Ghost and Mr JC can take a hike. I believe in one divine force, God, all the rest...stuff it.
dougnukem said:
Hmmm!
In your case , you didn't know, maybe some others just did it to be "on the safe side".... 
I believe in anycase that the soul does not die with the body, it may be that we come back here again 
(God help us!!) Maybe in another shape or form........... 
The Monkey Man said:Thats so it seems more realistic....
As if they were saying... "sure, that happens, but only like we tell it" -
Wow, that is so wrong... the bible is very clear on turning away from any types of pagan rituals, symbols or ideology.
NeilPearson said:
The nice irony being , that many churches in Britain (and elsewhere in Europe)were built on Pagan sites, some still have the remains of pre christian stone circles around them.(Built within the walls in some cases..........)
Ressurection has always been one of the things I've pondered. It goes against everything the "Christian" leaders would have you believe, but it is a possibility. I do get a kick out of your view of people taking the "safe side", as I know people can and will do this. But they are only fooling themselves, as they should know, because God knows what's in your heart. Or at least if you follow that path, you should know this.Nick+ said:Hmmm!
Nick+ said:
Enjoy. Cya later.
silencer said:
You'll start to believe when you feel the business end of my katana blade against your throat...
Not derived from, though they are similar. 3 is a very natural number, many things happen in threes.NeilPearson said:
Today's version of Christian's is full of pagan believes, customs, symbols and practices.
You say this as if I didnt know it. All people shall be judged at the end of days, Christian or not. The Christians, (bear with me here, I dont mean this in any arrogant way at all, though it may sound it) will be found blameless, because they accepted the gift Christ offers. The non-Christian, however, will be found to have sinned, (as have all, save for Jesus), and will experience the second death. This second death can be interpreted in two ways, either their entire spiritual existance will be wiped from the universe, or they will go back to hell, and spend eternity there.NeilPearson said:
Eh, it's all good. I think we just like a good debate every now and then. As long as nobody gets too bent out of shape, you can have an intelligent conversation about it.
Robert DiMaggio said:these religeous threads are futile, no one is going to change their belief.
People have changed their belief in the past(and the present) because of persuasion........
That is just not true!!!!!!!!!!!!Robert DiMaggio said:these religious threads are futile, no one is going to change their belief.
I loved the Lord until I read the posts by Robert DiMaggio.....now I'm 100% atheist.
Thank you Rob for un-brainwashing me
ForemanRules said:That is just not true!!!!!!!!!!!!
I loved the Lord until I read the posts by Robert DiMaggio.....now I'm 100% atheist.
Thank you Rob for un-brainwashing me
Stop arselicking in the pursuit of a Mod Job..........
I hate you guys....damn people won't let me have real beer here. Something to do with carrying a live weapon and drinking.....sheesh
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