Would appreciate advice on Test E and Deca use in relation to BPH

[old_man]

[h=2]Hey Bros -

I recently had an emergency resection (~4 wks ago) of my prostate, as it was over twice the size it should have been and I could barely piss. Fortunately the biopsy showed no cancerous cell growth, just a seriously enlarged prostate (BPH).

My heavy workout days are probably over, but I'd still like to take a TRT dose of Test E (something like 75-100 mg/wk) to help keep my sex life active and hopefully retain most of the muscle I already have. Will Test E cause me further problems with my prostate?

I have a similiar question for Deca Durobolin. I'd been taking a small dose (~50 mg/wk) to help with joint pain (and it seemed to be effective). Will such a small dose of Deca cause any prostate problems.

Any info or advice is appreciated. Thanks. [/h]

 

[SheriV]

deca does not convert to dht so that shouldn't be a problem for prostate health...

the problem I am seeing with what you are proposing is even that little bit of deca is enough to shut down your natural test...Im not sure that 75mg-100 mg a week will really overcome it
test is where you get into trouble with dht....

hopefully someone can give you a more direct answer. This might have been better posted in the trt section.

 

[World-Pharma.org]

i am sure in few h you will get all answers!

 

[Christsean]

That's a genetics thing. I convert my test to estrogen very easily. Dht and bph is never a problem for me even on high dosages. You may be prone to conversion to dht and bph..... so it's difficult to say how you will react. My father in law had bph and the endocrinologist had him on try. He just had to start away from coffee and spicy food.

 

[s2h]

flomax...problem solved..pin all you want..

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Low dose daily cialis is effective treatment for BPH. 5mg daily. Also monitor e2..it has just as much if not more effect on prostate than dht (this has been uncovered in last couple years)

 

[ordawg1]

Low dose daily cialis is effective treatment for BPH. 5mg daily. Also monitor e2..it has just as much if not more effect on prostate than dht (this has been uncovered in last couple years)

FDA approves Cialis to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia -I would take the test up bit higher ( maybe 200 mgs per week /split) and hold the deca-add low dose cialis.Check all levels ( including E2) in about 6 weeks via blood panels.Great comments -Thanks-OD

 

[old_man]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback and suggestions. I think my BPH has to do with my age (58) more than anything else. I've been taking Test E on and off for years, but never much more than 300 mg/wk. Deca use has been minimal, mostly (50 - 100 mg/wk) to ease joint pain, mostly from arthritis. I had a bad reaction to Flomax so can't go that route. I just spoke with my urologist and he is going to put me on 5 mg/day Cialis, but he also said I shouldn't go over 100 mg T per week, since some of it will convert to DHT (bad for BPH).

The main thing I'm wondering now, if I still want to go with 50 mg Deca/wk (it really helped with joint pain), is 100 mg T/wk enough to keep the Deca from shutting me down? Or would 25 mg Deca still help with joints or is that too low of a dose?

Thanks for all the great comments.

 

[ordawg1]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback and suggestions. I think my BPH has to do with my age (58) more than anything else. I've been taking Test E on and off for years, but never much more than 300 mg/wk. Deca use has been minimal, mostly (50 - 100 mg/wk) to ease joint pain, mostly from arthritis. I had a bad reaction to Flomax so can't go that route. I just spoke with my urologist and he is going to put me on 5 mg/day Cialis, but he also said I shouldn't go over 100 mg T per week, since some of it will convert to DHT (bad for BPH).

The main thing I'm wondering now, if I still want to go with 50 mg Deca/wk (it really helped with joint pain), is 100 mg T/wk enough to keep the Deca from shutting me down? Or would 25 mg Deca still help with joints or is that too low of a dose?

Thanks for all the great comments.

You can try @ 25 mgs Deca-see how it goes.I am much older than you and have had zero issues with a higher Test dose.I actually feel that 100 mgs per week is of little value. But- is just my opinion-Luck on ya-OD

 

[TrojanMan60563]

I can tell you 150mg test C per week puts me at around 450 test levels....nothing amazing so I would think 100mg would leave you below normal range.

 

[plazmic]

I can tell you 150mg test C per week puts me at around 450 test levels....nothing amazing so I would think 100mg would leave you below normal range.

Really? I cruise on 250mg a week and peak around 1650ng/dL of test and bottom out at 900ng/dL 7 days after injection. Both with AMA test and my script are in that range.

I get minor BPH from just moderate doses of test. When I'm above 500mg / week I have to piss 3-5 times a night and when its bad it takes 5-10 seconds to start flowing. I take 10mg cialis EOD and it makes a noticeable difference... my doc first recommended viagra which also worked well but I didn't like the acuteness of it. Though, I have to admit taking cialis for any reason in my 20's makes me feel strange.

 

[JR.]

I need something for this, anything 'over the counter' by chance... No insurance

 

[s2h]

Bph can be caused by estrogen also...not just dht...I take the ed cialis and it keeps it under check for most of the time...if it gets a little more advanced its normally because my estrogen is getting high....

As for OTC...I never found anything ...I gobbled enough saw palmetto and herbal OTC supps to last a life time and nothing helped much...

Cialis is your best bet...I have researched purchase peptides and it works just as effective as the tabs..and cheaper....

 

[old_man]

I need something for this, anything 'over the counter' by chance... No insurance

When I was in my 40s, I used saw palmetto and pygeum. It helped me. You can get a product which contains both over the counter at CVS or Walgreens. It's called "Prostate Health". It doesn't have a noticeable effect for several weeks. If your symptoms aren't too bad, it may be worth a try. Good luck!

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Really? I cruise on 250mg a week and peak around 1650ng/dL of test and bottom out at 900ng/dL 7 days after injection. Both with AMA test and my script are in that range.

I get minor BPH from just moderate doses of test. When I'm above 500mg / week I have to piss 3-5 times a night and when its bad it takes 5-10 seconds to start flowing. I take 10mg cialis EOD and it makes a noticeable difference... my doc first recommended viagra which also worked well but I didn't like the acuteness of it. Though, I have to admit taking cialis for any reason in my 20's makes me feel strange.

Yes this is Test C from the pharmacy not any UGL or foreign gear.

 

[old_man]

Really? I cruise on 250mg a week and peak around 1650ng/dL of test and bottom out at 900ng/dL 7 days after injection. Both with AMA test and my script are in that range.

I get minor BPH from just moderate doses of test. When I'm above 500mg / week I have to piss 3-5 times a night and when its bad it takes 5-10 seconds to start flowing. I take 10mg cialis EOD and it makes a noticeable difference... my doc first recommended viagra which also worked well but I didn't like the acuteness of it. Though, I have to admit taking cialis for any reason in my 20's makes me feel strange.

What do you mean when you say viagra worked well "but I didn't like the acuteness of it." Did you have some sort of sides from Viagara?

 

[s2h]

He meant he didn't like the untimely boners that come with it....Cialis is a much better option...

Also as men age they convert test to estrogen at a much higher rate...so what didn't cause you problems even a few years ago could now...get some labs when your bph kicks in and see were your e2 is at...it maybe as simple as some additional arimidex..