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Would you choose to save the life of your pet(that you've had for years)or a stranger
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It's kinds like sex, drug, and rock n roll; except it's not as sexually fulfilling and with fewer solos.
Ahhhhh see there is the trouble ... he expressed HIS opinion about what he thought of ANYONE who held human life in such low regard. You and a few others took that as a personal insult ... it's not. Dero???s is an emotional reaction to the thought that people would allow someone to suffer such a gruesome death as to be ground up by a train like hamburger in a meat grinder just to save a lower life form. That someone's son, mother, brother, sister, wife or husband ... and the damage that this person's death would cause to those families, a ripple effect of this person's death THAT YOU COULD PREVENT ... were of less value to you then your cat was appalling. He then went on to explain that he would rather hang out with people of a more humane mentality.
Let me say this another way. That the family unit tied together by each of its members is of less concern to you than the life of an animal is sickening and shows how low you are in your own humanity. 90% of the people walking around this world are loved by someone. The loss of that one person would create a hole in the soul of his/her surviving loved ones and we as human beings have the responsibility to hold that in high regard and as a preventable event. I want you to save me from that train, I???d even say I???d expect you to ??? so I therefore am obligated by that expectation to save you. It really is kinda one big human circle-jerk but there we are ??? that is part of what separates us from the lower life forms. That and [SIZE=-1]winnebagos[/SIZE].
Stretch out your thoughts on this a bit further ??? what would you want me to do for you?
You want me to save you or save my ferret? I really love her with a love that comes from the depth of my soul. When she passes ??? sometime in the next year or two at most ??? I will be utterly and completely devastated. I???ll prolly come on here and whine about it relentlessly like a whiney little bitch for days.
But really now ??? who do I save? You or my ferret?
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I use the pro-nouns (words like you for those of you with a $50,000 education) in this post loosely with no specific intention towards any one person. I mean to ofend no-one.
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Ahhhhh see there is the trouble ... he expressed HIS opinion about what he thought of ANYONE who held human life in such low regard. You and a few others took that as a personal insult ... it's not. Dero???s is an emotional reaction to the thought that people would allow someone to suffer such a gruesome death as to be ground up by a train like hamburger in a meat grinder just to save a lower life form. That someone's son, mother, brother, sister, wife or husband ... and the damage that this person's death would cause to those families, a ripple effect of this person's death THAT YOU COULD PREVENT ... were of less value to you then your cat was appalling. He then went on to explain that he would rather hang out with people of a more humane mentality.
Let me say this another way. That the family unit tied together by each of its members is of less concern to you than the life of an animal is sickening and shows how low you are in your own humanity. 90% of the people walking around this world are loved by someone. The loss of that one person would create a hole in the soul of his/her surviving loved ones and we as human beings have the responsibility to hold that in high regard and as a preventable event. I want you to save me from that train, I???d even say I???d expect you to ??? so I therefore am obligated by that expectation to save you. It really is kinda one big human circle-jerk but there we are ??? that is part of what separates us from the lower life forms. That and [SIZE=-1]winnebagos[/SIZE].
Stretch out your thoughts on this a bit further ??? what would you want me to do for you?
You want me to save you or save my ferret? I really love her with a love that comes from the depth of my soul. When she passes ??? sometime in the next year or two at most ??? I will be utterly and completely devastated. I???ll prolly come on here and whine about it relentlessly like a whiney little bitch for days.
But really now ??? who do I save? You or my ferret?
Disclaimer:
I use the pro-nouns (words like you for those of you with a $50,000 education) in this post loosely with no specific intention towards any one person. I mean to ofend no-one.
I like you, and you were always friendly to me and supportive in my journals a while back. Obviously we have stepped on each others toes lately, so I'm going to take a step back and try to figure out what the issue is.
Ok, first of all, I don't care who saves me. I don???t expect anything from anyone. I would not give a rat???s ass what someone decides in the situation involving my life. I said that previously. I do not see death like you guys do. So save your ferret. I don???t give a shit.
I also don???t care about Dero's opinion. Dero went way past opinion when he judged us, and personally insulted us with some of the meanest language I have ever seen posted on IM. I am big enough to forgive him if he had only asked. What the hell do you want from me? He acted like a total douche, then come back for seconds. I didn???t agree with many of the other members in this thread, but we all worked out our disagreement, and by threads end had come to a very cool understanding. Did you see how we all finished the debate like adults? That is how people work together. I am a reasonable guy, but you have to meet me half way. Dero was still acting like a 3 year-old crybaby 10 pages after his initial outburst.
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I see your point. It is a good belief, and a well thought out belief, but that doesn???t change the fact that it is just that: a belief. My beliefs differ from yours and Dero's. I don???t give a shit about some stranger. People die every day. Babies are dieing in third world countries everyday. If Dero cared so much he would be over there saving babies. If he was so appalled, then what is he doing about the death of strangers? He isn't doing shit but talking shit. That goes for everyone one of the self proclaimed humanitarians in this thread. Show me where you have made a difference in stranger's lives.
The $50,000 education was a joke. Maybe it was not very funny. I don't know why you are throwing that one back at me and those whom it may concern, or whatever that shit was suppose to mean. I don't think going to school makes me better than anyone else, and I seriously doubt anyone else thinks that either, or if they do they are stuck up.
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thought about it, and for the people saying all humans are equal or all creatures are equal, what the hell do you mean by that? Everyone is different. Yes all humans should have equal rights but that doesn't mean all humans are equal.
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this thread fuking disturbs me. im totally weirded out reading these responses. if i/m is a fare rep of the human pop as a whole i am disgusted at the total disregard people have for others and the value we place on the human life. i mean ure avg. person dies it takes a treemendous toll out on the rest of their family which could last for months if not years or possibly their entire lives. i mean WTF i understand how close one can be to an animal my dog pastina died last year after 12 yrs and i loved her to the greatest degree i feel a human being can love an ANIMAL. i would throw her a fkin frisbee shed bring it back n lick me id give her food when i was young fromt he table and get yelled at ad when she died i was heartbroken. but would i pick her over a 51yr.old mongolian sheep hearder? no fkin way. now either u people need to get off i/m and develop more interPERSONAL relationships and begin to understand the true value of a human life or i just live ina world where people are mainly extremely SELFISH to such a degree that they would pick their fking dog cat iguana watever the fuk over a human life and have the odacity to not even question their decision and think of the people they would be affecting. im out dis biatch too u insensitive neo-nazi bastards.
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I don't want to alarm you, but I think your keyboard is broken.
Were all good brother Kelju ... seriously. You've seen me disrespect[URL="http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=64273"] someone[/URL] before. I'm just trying to keep a clear perspective on this and respect Dero not disrespect you. Dero had a perspective that it seamed other people missed as they all ganged-fucked him for expressing it. I would not have voluntereed my FCZ stuff to ya if I didn't like ya.
BTW going to school does make you better than other people ... seriously. But that is a whole 'nother thread ...
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thnx doms and i dont mean to alarm you but after looking at ure journal i think there might be sumthing wrong with ure bench/squat rack...
This is NOT an apology nor am I looking for one from ANYBODY.
I've been told off, big deal, as I read this thread,but I realise that words simply role out of babe's mouths...
IMHO(if it matters to anybody) an animal (a pet) has a heart beat, has an instinct and a sense of survival but NO SOUL and NO INTELLIGENCE. I own three dogs, I've surrounded myself with dogs for all of my adult life, yes I do love them, I enjoy their company so on and so forth and I do see them as being inferior to us the human beings. BUT I will NEVER put them in front or before the life of another HUMAN BEING, be it somebody that I know OR NOT.
I was wrong in calling people "sick moyher fuckers" those who do not share my views, but what is done is done...
So no, I did not lose it like some might sumise, I simply do not share the same values that many have here. To me,that is very important to know that you surround yourself with people that are of the same genre as yourself.
So, like I stated in my previous post,
I'm outta here.
Just because I don't share the same POV? Please don't leave again 
Kelju, please don't say that. Dero is a good guy. He feels strongly over his point of view as do we. He was attacked afterwards which was very uncalled for. We each have a right to our own opinion and I don't think it was fair of that fuck nut to tell him off. We are all grown adults. Let's have our point of view and move on.
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thnx doms and i dont mean to alarm you but after looking at ure journal i think there might be sumthing wrong with ure bench/squat rack...
Truly, the comeback of a 20 year old. Wait, no...more like a 5 year old.
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Every post? I ignore you most of the time; but that post of yours was visually offensive.
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Oh, no, you've hurt my feeling. Wait, no, you didn't. In order for you to hurt my feelings, I'd have to care about your opinion.
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Is it a regular gold fish or a Japanese Jikin gold fish?
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What's the "truth"?
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Okay, joking aside, why do you type like that? I just can't understand why you'd do that.
JOHNYORK what are you doin in here? You normally post in the healthfood sections, workout and sports stuff ... not in bullshit threads like this.
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You slummin?
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Your right DOMS I should use better grammar. Using poor grammar not only makes my points harder to understand but also is a misrepresentation of my intelligence. I take for granted other people will understand my main points in my posts. I feel most do but I should realize the importance of making my point as clear as possible to all members as this is in fact an online messaging forum where the only tool of communication we have to represent our ideas is the written word. I'll try harder but I am a lazy bum.
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lol, no I like open chat. Just not many topics in here usually spark my interest like this one.
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