Would you use steroids if they were legalized?

[Egoatdoor]

No. I don't compete and have no desire to so why am I going to risk my health and spend ungodly amounts on money on steroids? Just to get big??? What for. Plus, I hate needles anyway.

 

[Randy]

You shit on girls chests, but my statements are ridiculous

As for my statements, sorry. It was my personal thought that they at least had some justification for punishing their bodies with intense doses of steroids. If not as you pointed out, it makes them look even more stupid. Don't tell me that Arnold hasn't been having severe problems as a result of steroids? Like I said before though, does it matter what I say. The juicers are just going to find some way of convincing themselves that it does not harm your health. So keep doing it Flex. Hopefully your body is not beyond recovery by the time they do prove the harmful effects of them, or you run across the results yourself. To me its a no brainer that they are harmful. Like I said before though, how harmful and whether you will see serious results would depend on your dosage and what your taking. With knowledge, sure you can minimize the side effects. But like cigarettes, you can probably smoke just one cigarette a day for the rest of your life and not see any real harsh affects. While those smoking 1-2 packs a day would increase their risks of harmful effects such as cancer or whatever else. Or let see it is like nitrous oxide on your car. If you run a small stage nitrous setup and hold the nitrous for short bursts, your motor could last a long time. While it still will degrade the longevity of your motor by using it, it will last longer with small bursts. But once you start going wild with the stuff... your motor could blow at any time. Same analogy here. You can sit there and convince yourself that steroids are causing you no harm. Heck I would do the same I suppose. But don't blow smoke up my rear Flex cause of what I believe. I have absolutely nothing against those that do them. I just don't like those being against me for not doing them.

See, its ridiculous statements like this that i don't understand

So you're saying when he took dbol at age 15, Arnold knew he was going to win Mr. O. 7x's, dominate Hollywood, make millions, then become Governor?
That's absurd.

Most pro's start juicing at a young age in their lives, and any that say they don't is straight up lying.

BTW, It's more of a risk to drive your car, or smoke cigarettes, or drink alcohol than it is to take steroids, assuming you know what you're doing.

 

[Flex]

#1
You shit on girls chests, but my statements are ridiculous

#2
Don't tell me that Arnold hasn't been having severe problems as a result of steroids?

#3
The juicers are just going to find some way of convincing themselves that it does not harm your health. So keep doing it Flex. Hopefully your body is not beyond recovery by the time they do prove the harmful effects of them, or you run across the results yourself. To me its a no brainer that they are harmful. Like I said before though, how harmful and whether you will see serious results would depend on your dosage and what your taking.

#4
But don't blow smoke up my rear Flex cause of what I believe. I have absolutely nothing against those that do them. I just don't like those being against me for not doing them.

First of all, Ya, I really shit on girls' chests. It was a JOKE. Try aquiring a sense of humor. Funny, you know, HA HA.

#2
I never said Arnold didn't have severe probs. In fact, he's had heart surgery. So tell me, Dr. Randy, is that due to his steroid use?
What I WAS SAYING is that YOU "justified his steriod use b/c it made him rich and famous." YOU JUSTIFIED steriod use as "okay" as long as people are competing or "making money/getting famous". That's bullshit. So ONLY if you can get rich/famous is it okay? That's ridiculous.

#3.
We keep finding ways to justify it? I'm not justifying anything. I'm responding to your factless claims that steriods are harmful. Randy, you have NO idea what you are talking about. YOU HAVE NO WAY TO JUSTIFY THEY ARE HARMFUL TO YOU except for your stupid statement "Hopefully your body is not beyond recovery by the time they do prove the harmful effects of them, or you run across the results yourself. To me its a no brainer that they are harmful."
OHHHHH, a "no-brainer", huh? PROVE IT.

#4
NO ONE is blowing smoke up your rear for your beliefs. What i do care about is your unproven opinion that they are harmful.
NO ONE GIVES A FUCK that you don't use steriods.
NO ONE IS AGAINST YOU for not doing them. What we DO give a fuck about is you making RIDICULOUS comments like "to me its a no brainer they are harmful."
SO I ASK YOU, "WHY", Randy? WHY are they harmful? B/C the gov't has slapped an illegal tag on them? is that why? or perhaps it's b/c of all the stupid stigmas you've heard through the grapevine about steroids.

FACE IT, YOU KNOW NOTHING, SO DON'T PRETEND LIKE YOU DO.

 

[Randy]

This thread is fuckin hilarious, but i gotta say ^this^ is the funniest

Personally i've never peed on anyone, but i did take a dump on a chick's chest per her request

This doesn't sound like you were joking to me, but if you like dumping on girls chests it is your business, just as it is for you or anyone else to do steroids.

The rest of your message is just

1. You are telling me Flex that in order for someone to form their own opinion about a topic that they have to have scientific proof and evidence. Give me a fucking break.
Anyone with half a brain knows that steroids are unhealthy. I would hope that those who decide to use them educate themselves so they can minimize the risk and side affects.

2. Continue using them. I hope they work well for ya as I said. I don't know why you decided to bring all this crap up again Flex. If you read the thread the same topics have already been covered. You don't have to convince me that you think they are healthy to take them. So I believe in my mind they aren't. It's my right. And I don't need scientific evidence for that. I don't have to prove jack shit to you Flex.

3. You ask me to prove they are harmful to your health. Why don't you prove they Aren't. Just for your own sake, not mine.

4. Who the hell is pretending to know about them. I told you Flex, I'm not interested in steroids. Why would I invest my energy studying steroids,when I'm not interested in putting my health at risk. I enjoy bodybuilding to look and feel better, and improve my health, not to put it at risk.

5. Is there any more of your bs I haven't commented on...

Here flex...have at it

 

[Flex]

This doesn't sound like you were joking to me, but if you like dumping on girls chests it is your business, just as it is for you or anyone else to do steroids.

The rest of your message is just

1. You are telling me Flex that in order for someone to form their own opinion about a topic that they have to have scientific proof and evidence. Give me a fucking break.
Anyone with half a brain knows that steroids are unhealthy. They just chose to educate themselves so they can minimize the risk and side affects.

2. Continue using them. I hope they work well for ya as I said. I don't know why you decided to bring all this crap up again Flex. If you read the thread the same topics have already been covered. You don't have to convince me that you think they are healthy to take them. So I believe in my mind they aren't. It's my right. And I don't need scientific evidence for that. I don't have to prove jack shit to you Flex.

3. You ask me to prove they are harmful to your health. Why don't you prove they Aren't. Just for your own sake, not mine.

4. Who the hell is pretending to know about them. I told you Flex, I'm not interested in steroids. Why would I invest my energy studying steroids,when I'm not interested in putting my health at risk. I enjoy bodybuilding to look and feel better, and improve my health, not to put it at risk.

Randy,
You're a fuckin clownshow. Still on the chest dumping huh? Sounds like a gay fetish you just can't let go of.

ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN KNOWS THEY"RE UNHEALTHY? RANDY, WHERE DO YOU GET THIS SHIT FROM? YES, I AM saying show me proof. This is not a topic where an opinion matters. We're not talking about opinion here, you ignorant dick. We're talking FACT. Whether steriods are unhealthy or not. HOW CAN THAT POSSIBLY BE OPINION??????????????????????????

WE KNOW cigarettes are unhealthy BECAUSE ITS A FACT they can lead to lung cancer.

WE KNOW fatty foods are unhealthy b/c ITS A FACT they raise your bp.

IT DOESNT MEAN JACKSHIT when your "opinion" is that steroids are unhealthy.

and for the record, I CAN'T PROVE THEY'RE HARMFUL TO HEALTH b/c there IS NOT FACT THEY ARE. you are asking something to be proven that doesn't exist. that's impossible.

Perhaps you SHOULD invest some time in reading up on steroids so you can have a little education and wit behind your bullshit statements.

So let's get this straight once and for all.
You confessed yourself you know NOTHING about steroids, except that your uneducated opinion is that they are "obviously harmful". VERY CONVINCING. "I swear i didn't do it, your honor! You GOTTA just believe me!"

Bottom line, you're a clown.

 

[Randy]

Flex,

Don't drag me into your pathetic fantasies of shitting on girls chests...
It was you that mentioned it not me.. I just thought it was pretty fucking sick.
You clearly seem to be the clownshow.

Your not even worth any further reply

 

[Randy]

I still think that is freakin hillarious....

Flex shits on girls chests...

But I am a clownshow

And now I have a fetish about it cause I bring it up uhhhhh ok Flex

 

[Flex]

Ouch Randy, every time you bring that up it hurts even more.

I like the fact that you hafta keep resorting to some pathetic attempt to be funny because you know you are 100% wrong about something else.

Perhaps you SHOULD look into some steroids, then maybe, JUUUUUUUST maybe, it would look like you've ever lifted a weight in your life.

 

[madden player]

Perhaps you SHOULD look into some steroids, then maybe, JUUUUUUUST maybe, it would look like you've ever lifted a weight in your life.

Ouch.

 

[Randy]

Perhaps you SHOULD look into some steroids, then maybe, JUUUUUUUST maybe, it would look like you've ever lifted a weight in your life.

Perhaps you should grow a brain

If I had to rely on steroids to look like I lifted weights such as obviously you do, then I would most definitely feel pretty sorry. Hey! I guess that explains your ridiculous responses. How anyone that does steroids can't admit to himself that there can be possible health risks associated while taking them in my mind is an idiot. Even cigarette smokers, can admit that. Not to mention the fact that they affect everyone differently.. What might not affect you in a specific way, may affect someone else.

But the real thing I don't understand is why you are such a prick. Does it really upset you that I feel steroids can be unhealthy? Or do you just want attention Flex? Your obviously a fucking moron. (Excuse my language).
First you admit to crapping on girls chests (with no smiley after) or any indication it is a joke. And even if it were, who would even joke about something like that? Second, you come in with a childish remark to try to insult my mother..Come on Flex, that just proves what a fucking idiot you are.


I'm through with your dumb ass... You are going on ignore like your friend GR81.

 

[Flex]

Perhaps you should grow a brain

If I had to rely on steroids to look like I lifted weights such as obviously you do, then I would most definitely feel pretty sorry. Hey! I guess that explains your ridiculous responses. How anyone that does steroids can't admit to himself that there can be possible health risks associated while taking them in my mind is an idiot. Even cigarette smokers, can admit that. Not to mention the fact that they affect everyone differently.. What might not affect you in a specific way, may affect someone else.

But the real thing I don't understand is why you are such a prick. Does it really upset you that I feel steroids can be unhealthy? Or do you just want attention Flex? Your obviously a fucking moron. (Excuse my language).
First you admit to crapping on girls chests (with no smiley after) or any indication it is a joke. And even if it were, who would even joke about something like that? Second, you come in with a childish remark to try to insult my mother..Come on Flex, that just proves what a fucking idiot you are.



I'm through with your dumb ass... You are going on ignore like your friend GR81.

I, and anyone who has ever used steroids SHOULD NEVER USE THEM AGAIN for two reasons:

1. Randy proved just how harmful they are.
2. Who needs steroids when you can get M1-T. Look at the miracles they done to Randy.

Let's get this straight ONCE AND FOR ALL.

YOU ARE the one who said they are harmful. I said, "no, they're not". You said, they "obviously are, anyone knows that". I said "prove it". You couldn't. Then you make fun of a joke i made, and i retaliated. You obviously took everything personally, and voila, here we are.

No, it DOESN'T upset me that you "feel" steroids are unhealthy. Alls i ask of you is to show me something, ANYTHING, that backs you're ridiculous statements up. Something more than "they are obviously unhealthy". That's all i ask.

Do i just want attention? ya, that MUST be it

I admit to crapping on a girls chest with no smiley? What are you, a fag? (no offense towards homosexuals). That just MAY indicate you spend just a liiiiiittle too much time on the computer, when you can't take a fucking joke, or recognize one when it falls out of the sky and lands on your face.

Who would even joke about something like this? It's FUNNY, Randy, HA HA. Read through most threads on IM, there's these things in there from the English language we call "jokes".

And again, i didn't mean anything towards your mother personally. Only a loser who spends WAAAAAAAAAY too much time on the internet would take ANYTHING any stanger on the internet said personally about their mother.

Get a freakin' life.

 

[gococksDJS]

Perhaps you should grow a brain

If I had to rely on steroids to look like I lifted weights such as obviously you do, then I would most definitely feel pretty sorry. Hey! I guess that explains your ridiculous responses. How anyone that does steroids can't admit to himself that there can be possible health risks associated while taking them in my mind is an idiot. Even cigarette smokers, can admit that. Not to mention the fact that they affect everyone differently.. What might not affect you in a specific way, may affect someone else.

Are you implying that everyone who uses AAS should feel sorry for themselves? This is complete bullshit. While some people use them for the wrong reason, there are many people who are very knowledgeable about them and use them very safely and responsibly and otherwise have no reason to feel sorry for themselves. Steroids alone can not be credited to the amount of muscle mass. While steroids do help, the most important things in bodybuilding, whether on or off gear, are diet and proper workout routine. Look at mudge, he's huge, and i guarantee you he wasn't 100 lbs. before he started running gear. Running gear or not is a persons personal choice and it is not something you should criticize people for. If you don't agree with something someone does then be respectful about it. You have no right to say someone sucks or should feel sorry for themselves simply because they run gear. You dont use steroids for personal reasons, which is respectable, but you should also respect someones decision to juice whether or not you agree with it.

 

[gr81]

jesus christs every turn I make Randy makes these statements proclaiming that everyone with knowledge is ognorant and everyone should just buy into his blanket statements. You don't wanna do them, FINE, but don't say they are bad and fatal and whatevever else if you can't back it up, and once someone contradicts your nonsense with fact, you can't just brush off their science. You are such an idiot. You have no ability to debate rationally and really have no basis for what you say. No matter what anyone says to you you just brush it off like it holds no water. Just shut the hell up you moron. no one cares what you have to say if you can't debate like an adult without resorting to childish tactics. How can you argue something which you know NOTHING about? Either argue with fact or GO TO BED

 

[Jeanie]

The idiotass is back in the pee thread.

 

[gr81]

well I have been fighting with this jackass since his first day here basically, I can't stand him. he hasn't contributed one positive piece of info to this entire thread, not ONCE! teh only time he even mentions anytihng about BB the sentence begins with, "like my idol gopro says...." funny how he keeps responding to us thou even thou wew are supposedly on ignore, eh jeanie! lol.. the fact is that this is the most exciting part of his day, plain and simple!

 

[Flex]

HATE HATE HATE HATE

I AM the biggest hater of them all

 

[Jeanie]

well I have been fighting with this jackass since his first day here basically, I can't stand him. he hasn't contributed one positive piece of info to this entire thread, not ONCE! teh only time he even mentions anytihng about BB the sentence begins with, "like my idol gopro says...." funny how he keeps responding to us thou even thou wew are supposedly on ignore, eh jeanie! lol.. the fact is that this is the most exciting part of his day, plain and simple!

Yea, no kidding.,we are on ignore He beat me up in a thread recently and has placed himself on my "fat asses to be disgusted by" list.

 

[gr81]

well he's just embarrassed b/c your arms are bigger than his. I mean honestly, look at his pics and theres no way you can take this jackoff seriously. the dude claims he has 18" arms.. yeah... ok

 

[Jeanie]

well he's just embarrassed b/c your arms are bigger than his. I mean honestly, look at his pics and theres no way you can take this jackoff seriously. the dude claims he has 18" arms.. yeah... ok

I believe they are 18"....of fat! Seriously, why is he here? He insults me for bodybuilding but is participating in these forums....why?

 

[JerseyDevil]

No need to belabor the point guys. It is clear why Randy and Johnnny ran neck and neck in the IM 2005 Awards. "Biggest Douche Bag" says it all .

 

[PreMier]

 

[Randy]

No need to belabor the point guys. It is clear why Randy and Johnnny ran neck and neck in the IM 2005 Awards. "Biggest Douche Bag" says it all .

Of course you are speaking of yourself right Jersey
Again any moron that thinks that taking steroids can not cause the possiblity of health problems is just that.... A moron . We go around the merry go round for ever on this subject. Although once again...don't get me wrong here. I am not telling anyone they should not take steroids.

And you refer to IM 2005 rewards??? Do you even know what year we are in Although I will vote for you in next years running Jersey.

 

[Randy]

Now its funny it seems Jeanie came in to leverage off of GR and ole Flex...
I'm sorry Jeanie just because I think you look like a man doesn't mean you need to come in and try to butter up to those that are enemies of mine. But that's ok I have you on ignore. It's also kind of ironic that you are so affraid of exposing your kids to a picture of a classy body builder lady in a bikini, but have no problem carousing all day in Pissing threads... Sounds kind of sketch to me, but you did admit that you were a lousy mother. It is pretty funny how you look like a man. As for GR...hell he's not even worth commenting on... Him and I go way back..

Well just finished working out and am off to dinner.. Enjoy your steroids GR
Or should I say Dr. GR.. Since you claim to have written the book on steroids

 

[Flex]

Well just finished working out and am off to dinner

Working up a sweat beating your meat while you sit behind a computer does NOT constitute a workout.

Randy, PLEASE ignore us, as you KEEP insisting you are doing, cuz your pathetic attempts at humor are almost as ridiculous as your knowledge of BB.

BTW, i hope you read my post about the 2 main things i was argueing with you about (b/c i wasn't just being a prick for the sake of it as you claim):
1. You claim something with nothing to back it up except "everyone knows that"
2. You can sure as hell insult people, but can't get insulted

if you must know, and i don't even know why i'm telling you this, b/c i already wrote it 50x's, but there you have it, there's the 2 things of yours i had a problem with.

 

[gr81]

well what exactly are the risks then you pussy, please describe exactly what he downsides are, please be articulate and make you point like an adult, if thats possible... go ahead, I'm waiting.....

 

[gococksDJS]

Well just finished working out and am off to dinner.. Enjoy your steroids GR
Or should I say Dr. GR.. Since you claim to have written the book on steroids

Now ive never seen gr81 make a claim that he wrote the book on steroids, but how can you bash him for being extremely thorough and informed about something he chooses to do? Ive read a lot of his posts in the anabolic form and would take advice from him because he seems to be quite knowledgeable on the subject. It's bullshit that you bash everyone who uses steroids and talk about the morons who use without any knowledge of the product, then turn around and bash someone for being well informed on the subject.

 

[JerseyDevil]

And you refer to IM 2005 rewards??? Do you even know what year we are in

Now there's some serious artillery... Ah Randy, did I piss you off? Trust me, you will ALWAYS be the biggest douche bag on this forum.

Again any moron that thinks that taking steroids can not cause the possiblity of health problems is just that.... A moron . We go around the merry go round for ever on this subject.

If you go back and read my earlier post, you'll see I mentioned certain steroids that have the most risks. So how can you say I believe they do not have the possibility of health problems?

 

[Tha Don]

oh shit this thread is getting funnier everytime i check it

Randy you need to fall back!! you just diggin it deeper kid

and LMAO @ you just finished your workout on ya computer!! man you really left yo'self open to get slayed on that

BTW i wasn't refering to you in my 1st thread as an idiot to begin with, but you've slid right down into that catagory now

stop chattin bull on something you kno jack about

peace

 

[Jeanie]

Now its funny it seems Jeanie came in to leverage off of GR and ole Flex...
I'm sorry Jeanie just because I think you look like a man doesn't mean you need to come in and try to butter up to those that are enemies of mine. But that's ok I have you on ignore. It's also kind of ironic that you are so affraid of exposing your kids to a picture of a classy body builder lady in a bikini, but have no problem carousing all day in Pissing threads... Sounds kind of sketch to me, but you did admit that you were a lousy mother. It is pretty funny how you look like a man. As for GR...hell he's not even worth commenting on... Him and I go way back..

Well just finished working out and am off to dinner.. Enjoy your steroids GR
Or should I say Dr. GR.. Since you claim to have written the book on steroids

No you f*** didn't! Wait, I am on Ignore so how did he hear that?
Randy, please find a post where I EVER said I was a lousy mother...I bet you can't find one cause there isn't one. I have no probem with seeing a BB woman in a bikini, it is the nudes I dont appreciate appearing in the middle of a conversatio that I am in.
In addition, my kids have no idea that I have ever peed on my husband you jackass! This is an anonymous forum so noone knows me. This forum is a place where I can share a differnt side of me and my kids have no idea that I am even a member of this forum. Why are you even BRING UP MY KIDS?
If I were a man, i would kick you fat ass !

 

[BritChick]

No you f*** didn't! Wait, I am on Ignore so how did he hear that?
Randy, please find a post where I EVER said I was a lousy mother...I bet you can't find one cause there isn't one. I have no probem with seeing a BB woman in a bikini, it is the nudes I dont appreciate appearing in the middle of a conversatio that I am in.
In addition, my kids have no idea that I have ever peed on my husband you jackass! This is an anonymous forum so noone knows me. This forum is a place where I can share a differnt side of me and my kids have no idea that I am even a member of this forum. Why are you even BRING UP MY KIDS?
If I were a man, i would kick you fat ass !

Grrr... you go girlie!