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gr81

I remember when Cortez Kennedy and Sam Adams were on the line for years tearing it up, we had Chris Warren as tailback for a while and he produced, Warren Moon made a pit stop in Seattle. Its been a while since we have had a young Qb like Hassleback takin snaps. Now if only we could trade Shaun Alexander while we could still get something from him. I fuckin hate that bitch, I have never seen such a pussified tailback, and everyone thinks he is dope b/c he runs well on monda nigt games. If you saw him run week after week you all would realize he is a pussy.

I'm surprised at the beginning of this reply I'm quoting that nobody else gives Seattle respect?

You also just named 2 of my favorite defensive linemen. I was a big fan of Cortez Kennedy he was great along with Sam Adams.

Chris Warren I also enjoyed watching & was very happy when he went to Dallas.

Warren Moon did a great job there b4 going to Kansas City I believe.

Hassleback will develop even more as a reliable QB.

But I don't understand why you don't like Shaun Alexander & why you think he's a pussy?

I thought he had a pretty good year last year?

He did well against Tampa.
 
A little late to the party, but the Bengals are my team.

You've been taking a little bit of a beating Johnnny and not to pile on or anything, but a few comments. There were quite a few people that complained about the Bengals losing. There was of course Dillon, but you can't forget Carl Pickens. There were stories all the time in the Cincinnati Enquirer (and on the radio) about unhappy players. The fans were really ticked off too.

The losing didn't really start until 1991 (not 84). They were in the Super Bowl in 1988 and in the playoffs in 1990. Boomer played with the Bengals from 1984-1992 and again in 1997. Chad Johnson and Keyshawn Johnson are cousins. Jon Kitna is the backup qb this year. Carson Palmer is the starter (and he if plays like he did last night it will stay that way).
 
But I don't understand why you don't like Shaun Alexander & why you think he's a pussy?

I thought he had a pretty good year last year?

He did well against Tampa.

Its hard for people not watchin him every game and every run to understand b/c theyy only see him play in national televised games, which he happens to perform well in. He runs like he is scared to get hit, I have never seen a back that this was more true of. Instead of trying to pick up those extra yards, he falls down ALL the time so as not to get hit as hard. Trust me when I tell you that this is a huge problem for him. He needs to toughen up BIGTIME
 
pu239

The losing didn't really start until 1991 (not 84). They were in the
Super Bowl in 1988 and in the playoffs in 1990. Boomer played with the
Bengals from 1984-1992 and again in 1997. Chad Johnson and Keyshawn
Johnson are cousins. Jon Kitna is the backup qb this year. Carson Palmer is
the starter (and he if plays like he did last night it will stay that
way).

I know that. They played the 49ers in the 81 Super Bowl, you miss read.

Yes I know Boomer Esaison was their QB. I've been following them for a long time.

Actually Chad Johnson & Keyshawn Johnson are brothers, they said so during a game last year on the Sunday Night Football highligts.

& they will be using Rudi Johsnon as their RB this year who is very promising.
 
gr81

Its hard for people not watchin him every game and every run to understand b/c theyy only see him play in national televised games, which he happens to perform well in. He runs like he is scared to get hit, I have never seen a back that this was more true of. Instead of trying to pick up those extra yards, he falls down ALL the time so as not to get hit as hard. Trust me when I tell you that this is a huge problem for him. He needs to toughen up BIGTIME

I hear that.

I know when I played tailback especially at about 225lbs, I used to force my way forward as much as possible fighting for every inch possible.

I averaged between 3-5 yards a carry. Our team mostly used straight up the middle running. Our blockers would try to run over anyone they could to make space for myself & the other runners we had.

Instead of being scared, I would lower my head & run into the defenders trying to take out who ever I could w/o getting hurt as much as possible.
As a back you have to hit smart & be alert. There's nothing more painful than getting blindsided while running with the ball.

Maybe that's what Shaun Alexander is scared of?

But this is where a good FB is sooo important to plow the way for the runner.
Our FB was my best friend next to the linemen.

If there isn't a good relationship between the runner to the FB to the
O linemen, I can guarantee your ground game will be lacking no matter what the level of the game it is.

So I see your point, I only saw him on televised games & never saw his performance on local games.

If that's the case, I can see why you don't like Shaun Alexander, I wouldn't either.

I'll be getting satellite soon, so I'll be able to check out those games for myself.
 
But overall I've always liked the Bengals even with Boomer Esaison even though I was a bit to young back then in 84 I've looked up highlights.
When you said that it made it sound like you were too young to follow Boomer while he was actually playing. Back in 84 he had just started playing - that's the point I was trying to make. I guess I did misread, because you made it sound like their losing ways started in 84, is that not what you meant? The Bengals played the 49ers twice in the Super Bowl, 81 & 88.

The Johnson's are cousins, in spite of what they said on tv. It's well documented and a Google search will turn up plenty of references.
 
Touchdown, Kan-sas City!!! Been a Chiefs fan since Derrick Thomas was a rookie and Okoye was straight running over....or past folks. Bengals come in second, people used to laugh at me from 85-87, then BAM! Super Bowl! NFC, i always root for the Giants.
 
pu239

When you said that it made it sound like you were too young to follow Boomer while he was actually playing. Back in 84 he had just started playing - that's the point I was trying to make. I guess I did misread, because you made it sound like their losing ways started in 84, is that not what you meant? The Bengals played the 49ers twice in the Super Bowl, 81 & 88.

I said that in 84 I was a little older & was able to understand the game much better. Even though I was watching it 4yrs earlier. At that point I was only 3 & didn't understand everything yet. I learned much of it by 84.

I remember when Boomer 1st came in in 84 & my father was telling me who he was.


As for the 88 Super Bowl I didn't get to see that one as we were away on a family vacation in Florida & missed most of what went on towards the end of that season as they didn't want any TV's around with all the family members together.

But my father later told me who was in the Super Bowl. When you're a kid you don't remember everything.
 
gr81 said:
yes but if you think that everyone in Cinncinati was perfectly fine with all the losing season and never complained about it then you are insane dude. They bitched about it every day. Look I am coming from the same situation in Seattle, we have had losing season after losing season. we haven't made the playoffs in liek ten years and haven't won a playoff game in even longer. No one sat here with their hands folded about it either, people bitched and moaned ALL the time. It does make it that much sweeter now that we have a winning team with potential. but the attitude that you speak of in Cinn was nonexistent until people made changes. I like the bengals, I hope they do well, but your statements are wrong. Everyone in pro sports just about is arrogant, and why wouldn't they be? they make millions of dollars to play a game, and kids and adults a like look up to them. Its not theuir fault, its our societies fault for placing this upon them and putting them in the spotlight. Lets get to the root of the problem if you really wanna bitch about it. Otherwise you sound foolish

Gr, what up playa?

honestly, what is this kid talking about??????

at least i'm not the only one who thinks it doesnt sound right...
 
Flex

Gr, what up playa?

honestly, what is this kid talking about??????

First I'm not a kid, & 2nd gr81 & I were on the same page concerning Seattle if you hadn't read recent replies.
 
johnny ure trying to make it seem like u know so much about football but u really dont and its really obvious. i highly doubt u were a 225lb tailback in highschool. please dont comment on the nfl anymore as ure comments make me really mad for some reason like i want to smash something.
 
shaun alexandeer and marshall faulk look like they have alot higher bodyfat percent then other backs in nfl neone else niotice this?
 
hithard

johnny ure trying to make it seem like u know so much about football
but u really dont and its really obvious. i highly doubt u were a 225lb
tailback in highschool. please dont comment on the nfl anymore as ure
comments make me really mad for some reason like i want to smash
something.

No I wasn't a 225lb TB in highschool, I started out at 185lbs after getting in shape & by senior year I was about 200lbs.

It was only until about 20 years old that I was 220lbs-225lbs.

I will make whatever comments I want about the NFL just as all of you have.

Each of us have our own opinions & entitled to our own opinions regarding teams, players, coaches, & the league in general.

It doesn't sound like you've ever played football as I played for 7yrs even though they were only highschool & college teams I know about football as I've played & I don't think you have played.

So don't tell me what to make comments on & what not to.

You have your opinions about teams & I have mine, we are allowed to have & express our opinions.

As for Shaun Alexander & Marshall Faulk having higher body fat% than other RB's, from what I've seen they're pretty solid, & even if they have a little more it doesn't seem to slow them down one bit.

I just saw these few links & thought they were important news:

After having been through these myself they aren't fun. & when you here your MRI results are negative, you & your team mates are relieved tremendously.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/STL/7613778

This is very good for Bulger & the Rams as I hope he will take the Rams to the promise land this year. I predict they will at least get a 1 week by week in the playoffs.


No body likes to see this happen especially to young players:

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/BUF/7611354

Hopefully he'll be back & will be able to get his career back on track.

This I am happy about that Quincy Carter is playing somewhere:

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NYJ/7610374

But he will be back up to Chad Pennington. Personally I think Quincy should be a starting QB as he led Dallas almost to the NFC championship as they lost pretty closely to Carolina which made it to the Super Bowl.


Honestly I can't say who will be where at the end of this season as there are many teams that look good this year.

But The teams that I do perdict to make it to the playoffs for the AFC are Baltimore, Cincinnati, Denver, Oakland, & possibly KC, & New England of course at the top of the list.

For the NFC I'm perdicting that The Rams, Seattle, Tampa, San Francisco, & Philadelphia at the top of the list will make the playoffs.

But who will finish for the Super Bowl, who knows?
 
Johnnny said:
Flex



First I'm not a kid, & 2nd gr81 & I were on the same page concerning Seattle if you hadn't read recent replies.

First of, i don't care if you're a kid. It's a figure of speech.

And 2nd, i don't care about Seattle (sorry A-Rod, i know thats your squad). I believe we were talking about the Patriots, and your ridiculous opinions of them. I dont care what you think, b/c you're entitled to your opinion. Its just kinda strange how your the first person i've ever heard of that thought the Pats were whiners/cocky etc. etc. etc. The ONLY thing i've ever heard about them is how humble they are. Therefore, i still have no clue what you're talking about.

Don't bother responding to this, Johnny, cuz you say the same thing over and over again ("well, i've seen them blah blah"). You have your opinion, and the rest of the football world shares mine. In fact, if you don't believe me, i'd be curious to see the results of an IM poll of whether people think the Pats are what you say they are. As far as success to cockiness ratio, Brady is the MOST humble athlete out there.

if you don't think so, or abou the entire Pats as a squad, post a poll, big man
 
Flex

You still don't understand, there are several players on the current Patriot team that I love watching & yes they are a good team. But I feel the way I feel about them.

The Patriot team that I loved that had great class was when Bill Parcells was head coach & Drew Bledsoe was their QB.

I loved that Patriot team & their attitude I truly did.

But anyway we each have our opinions & I respect yours but I believe what I believe. You could say you don't like Tampa Bay & that would be fine I'd respect that. I know ppl that don't like Tampa, I know ppl that don't like Dallas & that's fine with me for real.
 
What do you guys think is going to happen to Dallas now that they purposely got rid of Quincy with BS reasons just to have Parcells's old 40yr old QB start?

Chad Hutchison is gone. Many of the commentators, coaching staff & even Troy Aikman & Moose Johnston themselves compared Chad to a young Troy Aikman due to his playing style, ability & physical size.

Plus I'm hoping Tampa will rebound after last year. But WR Joe Jerivicous is out after back surgery this summer but WR Tim Brown will help. But w/o the Sapp Man they will really have to fill up the DT positions with some meat.


Does anyone know where WR Derrick Mayes from Notre Dame is now?
He was drafted by the Green Bay Packers, & then went to KC. But I'm not sure where he is?

There were a couple of other players I was also looking for.

Remember Napoleon Kaufan? RB for the Raiders in 1998 & 1999? He was very fast & had huge arms for his 190lb weight? I haven't heard anything about him at all the last few years? Anyone know?

One more guy I was looking for, was WR Kenyon Rambo who was a rookie 2yrs ago out of Ohio State. He was drafted by the Cowboys in 2002 & had a good year for a rookie WR, & had another good year in 2003. He was supposed to be with the Dallas Cowboys this year as in Madden 2004 he's still on the Dallas Cowboys roster. He was good, strong, tall, fast & had good hands so I don't no why he's not with them?

Thanks for your time.
 
Remember Napoleon Kaufan? RB for the Raiders in 1998 & 1999? He was very fast & had huge arms for his 190lb weight? I haven't heard anything about him at all the last few years? Anyone know?

he was so dope, he went to Washington and representedd for the Huskies liek a G. I acytually saw him at a Hoop It Up even one year, he's only like 5'7" or something like that, hella sort. Great college back thou, maybe to small for the pros. I loved watching him play thou.
 
gr81

he was so dope, he went to Washington and representedd for the Huskies liek a G. I acytually saw him at a Hoop It Up even one year, he's only like 5'7" or something like that, hella sort. Great college back thou, maybe to small for the pros. I loved watching him play thou.

So you saw Napoleon shootn' some hoops? That must've been cool.
But I personnally I think those 2yrs that he was with the Raiders, he did very well, even many of the commentators & ex players were impressed by his ability.

I personally like the shorter backs 5ft7-5ft10 at 185-220lbs as opposed to the Eddie George sized back (even though he's one of my favorite players :thumb:). The smaller backs I find are more versatile & sneaky as they're low to the ground & can sneak by all the commotion with the offensive & defensive line & explode through the holes for big yardage.

Here is a link I found last year. It says what the status of the player is, but it doesn't say where the player is or what team they're on or if they went to the CFL or are still in the NFL Europe.

http://dynamic.si.cnn.com/football/...earchResults.jsp?teams=&searchName=Ben+Coates

For example remember WR Yo Murphy for the Rams when they won the Super Bowl against the Titans? Well he's with Ottawa's team now & doing very well, but this site doesn't say that he's there.

You click on any letter of the alphabet & it will show players from within the last 5yrs.


One other player was TE David Lafleur who was drafted by Dallas also a few years ago & had a few good seasons, but he's gone now? Anyone know?

Is he related to the punter with the last name Lafleur?

Thanks all.
 
Didnt Napoleon blow out his knee? I thought he had a career ending injury? He was dope though.
 
cappo5150

Didnt Napoleon blow out his knee? I thought he had a career ending injury? He was dope though.

Not that I'm aware of or heard of.

Correction, God called for Kaufman. He is now a pastor in Dublin, CA.

http://www.gal220.org/html/about.html

For a second I thought you were joking until I opened the link. He only played 3yrs in the NFL & would've been a superstar.

gr81

wow thats crazy!! didn't see that comin.. ha ha. good lookin cappo

That is a shocker to me too! Now guys seem to be retiring so they can enjoy the pleasures of Mary Jane :D instead of playing football. I've never heard of any NFL player being called forth by God.

I guess that's a very positive thing. :thumb:
 
I was just checking out the link I supplied http://dynamic.si.cnn.com/football/...Name=Ben+Coates yesterday & I was looking.

I was looking for Derrick Mayes & he is still with KC as a WR but he's listed as inactive.

Why the hell would any ball club inactivate a talent like Derrick Mayes? He broke several Notre Dame records including the great WR Tim Brown's all-time recieving record at Notre Dame.

He's got speed, strength, a great pair of hands, height & talent. I don't get it.

But I do get it, after meeting & talking withWR Mercury Hayes in person (out of Michigan, he was on the same team as Ty Law, Amani Toomer, Tyrone Wheatley, Todd Collins, Jarrette Irons & so on in 93/94) & was in the NFL for awhile.

Mercury Hayes told me there's a lot of political BS going on in the league. He said he's seen many talent & stand up players personality wise come for a year or 2 or 5yrs & then disappear.

Personally I think it's all f#@ked up in that league as well even though I love it.

I bet that I could make my own successful NFL team & take 50 guys who are listed as inactive & make a great winning team with the talent that's just sitting around.
 
Also could someone fill me in on the whole Maurice Clarette situation?

I know he can't be drafted by the NFL nor can he play for the Buckeyes this year.

But why not?

I'm not such a Buckeye fan so I don't always no what's going on with every team.

Notre Dame, FSU, Miami, U of Florida, & Michigan are my teams.
 
New England Patriots without a doubt.
 
Johnnny said:
Also could someone fill me in on the whole Maurice Clarette situation?

I know he can't be drafted by the NFL nor can he play for the Buckeyes this year.

But why not?
Maurice Clarett signed with an agent, took some endorsements etc. as he planned to forego college and enter the NFL Draft. The NFL challenged it and won, which therefore means Maurice will be out of football this year and will have to enter the draft next season, as will USC's Mike Williams.

By the way, thats the most odd favorite colleges I have seen pretty much ever. Miami, FSU and Florida?!
 
saxmuscle

Maurice Clarett signed with an agent, took some endorsements etc. as he planned to forego college and enter the NFL Draft. The NFL challenged it and won, which therefore means Maurice will be out of football this year and will have to enter the draft next season, as will USC's Mike Williams.

By the way, thats the most odd favorite colleges I have seen pretty much ever. Miami, FSU and Florida?!

Thanks for the heads up on Maurice Clarett. What was that about Forego College? Will he play there this year? B/c you said that he will be out of football this year & have to wait for the 2005 NFL draft.

As for my favorite teams, you forgot Notre Dame. They've always been my favorite team for the last 20yrs even during their ups & downs.

Yes I like the Florida teams along with Michigan, & there are some other teams on my list that I watch when I can such as NC State, Boston College, UCLA, USC, & Tenesee, Texas, & Georgia Tech. But they aren't always at the top of my list.

Those are some other teams I enjoy watching. This year I'll be able to watch whoever I want whenever I want with my new satellite dish.

But always Notre Dame for college football, & certainly the Rams & Bengals for 2 of the several NFL teams I follow.
 
hmmm, nobody pullin for the titans this year? they finally got rid of eddie george thank god. we need a real running back.
 
bulletproof

What's wrong with Eddie George? He's a running back that's the same size as LT was at LB with speed & power?
 
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