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How many chins can u do?

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What's the best way to improve if your sticking point is a few inches below the bar?

Pull yourself as high up as you can go (nipple level) and then lower until your reach the problem area (a few inches below the bar) and then raise yourself up again. Do this as many time as you can. Rest. Then do a regular chin. Go back and forth like this for 4-6 sets.
 
I can do 12 at 170lbs. :barf:
improved by 2 in two months. :barf: :barf:


I luv them, but can't get better. how do I improve chins?

my goal is to do 20 by the end of the year.

I'll tell you what buddy, you and I have the same goal. I can do about 10 to 12, and my goal is to do 20 in the next 2 months. I have been training chin-ups 2 days a week, and I am getting better. I use an alternating periodization scheme.
 
15 @ 180lb with 20lb weight
 
14 super strict at 175.

Some days I just power throught them, some days they are such a struggle.
 
I can only do 3 working sets of 10. Then again I weight 215 and have 70 pounds dangling around my waist. That not including warmup sets of 10 no weight then 6 reps with 35lbs and 6 with 45lbs (All warmups)
so my total is 42 total reps give or take a few reps.
 
I can only do 3 working sets of 10. Then again I weight 215 and have 70 pounds dangling around my waist. That not including warmup sets of 10 no weight then 6 reps with 35lbs and 6 with 45lbs (All warmups)
so my total is 42 total reps give or take a few reps.

:eek: It's Hammer time! Wow!
 
Thanks Baker but I'm sure there are guys in here that can do more weight and reps. I'm 44 years old so I think I hang with the younger guys pretty well at leat at my gym.
 
The other day I did 15 pullups, but the last one or two was a bit ugly. Chinups, I'm guessing I can do about 20; I'm much better at those. I weigh 195.
 
The other day I did 15 pullups, but the last one or two was a bit ugly. Chinups, I'm guessing I can do about 20; I'm much better at those. I weigh 195.

THAT's BADASS for 195!! and i don't think you smell like bullshit neither.

I'll tell you what buddy, you and I have the same goal. I can do about 10 to 12, and my goal is to do 20 in the next 2 months. I have been training chin-ups 2 days a week, and I am getting better. I use an alternating periodization scheme.

i don't know man. Double up in two months is tough to do. Maybe even impossible. 15-16 sounds reasonable. :thumb: what's your periodization scheme?


here's some numbers I find inspiring.

John Grimek and Olympic lifting legend John Davis could both chin themselves six or seven times with EITHER ARM, at bodyweights of around 200 pounds. Eugene Sandow could perform a one-arm chin with ANY ONE OF HIS TEN FINGERS, at a bodyweight of around 190. Marvin Eder could perform 11 one-arm pullups at a bodyweight of no less than 195, and also do 80 (that's right, 80) consecutive two-arm pullups. For you smaller guys, consider the many gymnasts out there who can perform numerous one-arm pullups, or even more frightening, the rock climbers of today who can chin themselves with as much as 150% of bodyweight.... with ONE arm! And of course, for you really big guys, think about this: Bert Assarti, a strength legend from the early 1940's, could chin himself three times with either arm at a bodyweight of 265 pounds! Mr. Assarti could also do a two-arm pullup with over 200 pounds of additional weight strapped to his body.
 
some techniques i found.



Rule number one: in accordance with Pavel's logic, forget about training to failure. You can train close, within a rep or two, and occasionally (perhaps once or twice a month) push a set all out (read: A SET), but if you train to failure often, forget about achieving true pullup power, and start worrying about your frayed and shattered nerves.

Rule number two: Vary your grip . I know that Pavel believes in overhand pullups first and foremost, and I do too. However, if you are not a member of SWAT personnel, and do not have to climb walls and ledges on a regular basis, go ahead and vary your grip. Doing so will ward off boredom, and train your neural pathways to a wider degree. Grips worth using are: 1) Overhand or underhand, with or without thumbs. 2) Neutral grip--the best way to do these would be to drape a thick towel over the bar for maximum grip work.

Worthless techniques 1) Wide grip pullups and 2) Pullups behind the neck. For some reason, boobybuilders think that a very wide grip makes for very wide lats! Ha! This is bogus for a few reasons, the first being the greatly reduced range of motion, the second being the greatly reduced leverage, and the third being the extreme stress on your rotator cuffs. Optimal leverage is extremely important in strength training.

Question: would you try to pull a heavy deadlift on your toes with a rounded back? I didn't think so. As for pullups behind the neck, the same reasons apply. Do yourself and your shoulders a favor--keep your grip slightly wider than shoulder width or less, and pull to your chest, not to the back of your neck. And no grip aids please! (chalk is o.k.)

Rule number three: You can vary the number of reps you use, just don't do it excessively. Pick a training goal. If it is maximum muscular endurance, stick primarily to high reps. If it is maximum pullup power, stick with five reps or less ( I prefer lower reps and use high rep DBell or KBell quick lifts for muscular endurance. Just a matter of preference).

Every so often, do the exact opposite of your current routine. If you are training low reps go high one workout, and if you are doing high reps try for some heavy sets of 3-5. That being said, there seems to be a fair degree of carryover either way, so don't sweat it if you are in a situation where you can only train high reps.

There really aren't any "tricks" to training pullups. In my training, there are only two things I do that I suppose one could consider "tricks". The first, and I have been doing this for as long as I can remember, is to alternate sets of overhead presses with my pullups. Not superset, but alternate. Do a set of presses ( whether they be handstand pushups, barbell or dumbbell presses, or kettlebell presses). Rest about a minute, then do a set of pullups. Rest another minute and go back to presses, and so on and so forth. This method not only saves time, but also allows the antagonist muscle groups to relax as the other muscle groups are working.


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I thought we were talking about pronated here.
 
some techniques i found.



Rule number one: in accordance with Pavel's logic, forget about training to failure. You can train close, within a rep or two, and occasionally (perhaps once or twice a month) push a set all out (read: A SET), but if you train to failure often, forget about achieving true pullup power, and start worrying about your frayed and shattered nerves.

Rule number two: Vary your grip . I know that Pavel believes in overhand pullups first and foremost, and I do too. However, if you are not a member of SWAT personnel, and do not have to climb walls and ledges on a regular basis, go ahead and vary your grip. Doing so will ward off boredom, and train your neural pathways to a wider degree. Grips worth using are: 1) Overhand or underhand, with or without thumbs. 2) Neutral grip--the best way to do these would be to drape a thick towel over the bar for maximum grip work.

Worthless techniques 1) Wide grip pullups and 2) Pullups behind the neck. For some reason, boobybuilders think that a very wide grip makes for very wide lats! Ha! This is bogus for a few reasons, the first being the greatly reduced range of motion, the second being the greatly reduced leverage, and the third being the extreme stress on your rotator cuffs. Optimal leverage is extremely important in strength training.

Question: would you try to pull a heavy deadlift on your toes with a rounded back? I didn't think so. As for pullups behind the neck, the same reasons apply. Do yourself and your shoulders a favor--keep your grip slightly wider than shoulder width or less, and pull to your chest, not to the back of your neck. And no grip aids please! (chalk is o.k.)

Rule number three: You can vary the number of reps you use, just don't do it excessively. Pick a training goal. If it is maximum muscular endurance, stick primarily to high reps. If it is maximum pullup power, stick with five reps or less ( I prefer lower reps and use high rep DBell or KBell quick lifts for muscular endurance. Just a matter of preference).

Every so often, do the exact opposite of your current routine. If you are training low reps go high one workout, and if you are doing high reps try for some heavy sets of 3-5. That being said, there seems to be a fair degree of carryover either way, so don't sweat it if you are in a situation where you can only train high reps.

There really aren't any "tricks" to training pullups. In my training, there are only two things I do that I suppose one could consider "tricks". The first, and I have been doing this for as long as I can remember, is to alternate sets of overhead presses with my pullups. Not superset, but alternate. Do a set of presses ( whether they be handstand pushups, barbell or dumbbell presses, or kettlebell presses). Rest about a minute, then do a set of pullups. Rest another minute and go back to presses, and so on and so forth. This method not only saves time, but also allows the antagonist muscle groups to relax as the other muscle groups are working.


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Well that all makes sense I guess, but I always train to failure on the last set, and I have been making progress.

As far as my periodization scheme, I am using alternating periodization that looks like this:

Push/Pull/Legs
First Revolution / (8-15) Range
Second Revolution / (5-8) Range
Third Revolution / (1-5) Range
Deload

I have cheated some by sticking an 80% effort chin-up workout on my push days as long as my pull day isn't the day after. If it is the day after, I would stick the extra chin-up workout into my leg day.

This has been working well so far, I will tell you if it is still working in about two weeks.
 
I think going to failure everytime one pull-ups or chin-ups is a bad idea, too. I mean do you go to failure on squats or bench press everytime you train, of course not. I also think doing just BW or just weighted pull-ups and chin-ups is a bad idea. I try to have a heavy day and a light day (just BW). I used to go balls to the wall everytime on chins and pulls and what happened- I made no progress in my numbers. I also in the past have done them too many days without proper rest because I thought hell I'm not sore so maybe I could just do a few more- Dumbo, I don't do that with any other exercise so why would I do it with pull-ups/ chin-ups?
 
I think going to failure everytime one pull-ups or chin-ups is a bad idea, too. I mean do you go to failure on squats or bench press everytime you train, of course not. I also think doing just BW or just weighted pull-ups and chin-ups is a bad idea. I try to have a heavy day and a light day (just BW). I used to go balls to the wall everytime on chins and pulls and what happened- I made no progress in my numbers. I also in the past have done them too many days without proper rest because I thought hell I'm not sore so maybe I could just do a few more- Dumbo, I don't do that with any other exercise so why would I do it with pull-ups/ chin-ups?

Yeah good point....training to failure all the time on anything is bad. I have a hard time backing off the weights sometimes, and that's why unloading is working so well for me I think.

I'm actually using pull ups in a periodized program right now and it's working pretty well (I know the original topic is chins, sorry) I just have a partner spot me at my crossed ankles and go to town. On higher rep weeks he just assists more.
 
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I'm not big on going to failure either. Really heavy chins are great too. I can definitely do more with my bodyweight since I started doing triples with chinups. I also do bodyweight chinups 3-5 days a week generally, though a couple days a week it's way submaximal included in my circuit programs. I beat the shit out of my back; it seems to handle it well.
 
I can do 12 at 170lbs. :barf:
improved by 2 in two months. :barf: :barf:


I luv them, but can't get better. how do I improve chins?

my goal is to do 20 by the end of the year.

Personally (and this is just me) I would choose to keep at at reps of 10 and use a weight belt.

Once you can do 10 with another 20kgs hanging from you - I think you'll find the amount of reps you can do unweighted will increase.
 
my gym BLOWS. no weight belt.

just figured out how to use DB's, I hope I start improving.

BigDyl:

what's pronated?
 
my gym BLOWS. no weight belt.

just figured out how to use DB's, I hope I start improving.

BigDyl:

what's pronated?

Pronated is an overhand grip, which is what you use with pullups. Supinated is an underhand grip, which is what you use with chinups.
 
I'm no master of chins, but when I was starting out (able to do 0), I found it most helpful to do negatives as slowly as possible. There's no reason going to your maximum number and then doing a few slow negatives shouldn't help you complete more positives next time. In addition, try doing some chins weighted. Maybe add 20 pounds and go for a rep max and decrease weight and increase reps. Or use less weight and try the same technique. Or do one session weighted and the next with just BW. By slowly increasing weight I could do a chin up with a 40 pound DB hanging from my feet in the 185 BW range. Not too bad starting from being unable to do a single BW chin.
 
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