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joe,
I'm an amature at all this stuff but from what i've learned... Confidence, like everything else in life, .... growing your body, aquiring wealth, being happy is 1st a study then action then a reality...
Can you... _DEFINE_ what confidence means? what charactor traits come along with "confidence" ... If you want to be confident... fucking study confidence.. put time and thought into it... 1st define what confidence is to you... then define the charactor traits that "make up" confidence, in your mind. Then install or inject those charactor traits into your-self.
Do this by visualizing yourself acting as if you already possess these charactor traits.
Your challenge will not be growing muscles... your challenge is growing your mental image of yourself. Once you've overcome that challenge, the muscles will come, the girls will start just becoming interested... the world KNEELS before _true_ confidence.
Study it....
Look at this... Next time you walk through a place with alot of people... the mall, school, by a group of hot chicks... STOP, close your eyes... imagine yourself as royalty, litterally a prince... that your bentley is parked outside... that your musclles are allready in place... look down in your minds eye at your body and visualize your muscles... then walk like roylty ... head up... confident.
The objective of me telling you this is just to illustrate that confidence is _NOTHING_ more than a mind-state.... you put yoruself into that state by visualizing these things. Your body has _no_ choice but to act confident if you feel confident... even more amazing,,, the "vibe" of confidence will be there...
everything in life has its price... what is less known by most, is that the price you must pay for what you want becomes _SO_ much easier if you use your minds amazing ability to create what you want within yourself 1st.
Hope this help you out man... (by the way... dont get into fist fights to build your confidence... build your confidence through acomplishing goals and utilizing abiliity to create solutions or plans to CRUSH those goals... Life will be much more exciting this way) --J
I'm an amature at all this stuff but from what i've learned... Confidence, like everything else in life, .... growing your body, aquiring wealth, being happy is 1st a study then action then a reality...
Can you... _DEFINE_ what confidence means? what charactor traits come along with "confidence" ... If you want to be confident... fucking study confidence.. put time and thought into it... 1st define what confidence is to you... then define the charactor traits that "make up" confidence, in your mind. Then install or inject those charactor traits into your-self.
Do this by visualizing yourself acting as if you already possess these charactor traits.
Your challenge will not be growing muscles... your challenge is growing your mental image of yourself. Once you've overcome that challenge, the muscles will come, the girls will start just becoming interested... the world KNEELS before _true_ confidence.
Study it....
Look at this... Next time you walk through a place with alot of people... the mall, school, by a group of hot chicks... STOP, close your eyes... imagine yourself as royalty, litterally a prince... that your bentley is parked outside... that your musclles are allready in place... look down in your minds eye at your body and visualize your muscles... then walk like roylty ... head up... confident.
The objective of me telling you this is just to illustrate that confidence is _NOTHING_ more than a mind-state.... you put yoruself into that state by visualizing these things. Your body has _no_ choice but to act confident if you feel confident... even more amazing,,, the "vibe" of confidence will be there...
everything in life has its price... what is less known by most, is that the price you must pay for what you want becomes _SO_ much easier if you use your minds amazing ability to create what you want within yourself 1st.
Hope this help you out man... (by the way... dont get into fist fights to build your confidence... build your confidence through acomplishing goals and utilizing abiliity to create solutions or plans to CRUSH those goals... Life will be much more exciting this way) --J
Juggernaut: btw, he shouldnt worry about being fat because he seems like a fairly decently weighed ectomorph...
I disagree. Statements like that will turn most people into a big fatass in no time. Example: I went to school with Artie Lang the guy on Hoawrd Stern's show. He was a fucking twig. he ate whatever he wanted and believe it or not, Artie was fairly athletic. He's a fat fuck now because of the above statement.
Joe take MY advice: healthy carbs, increased fats and protein with an occasional cheat. Go to town on this, but dont let it go nuts. use the mirror as your guide and dont worry about the numbers on the scale.
Joe take MY advice: healthy carbs, increased fats and protein with an occasional cheat. Go to town on this, but dont let it go nuts. use the mirror as your guide and dont worry about the numbers on the scale.
damn mate, you missunderstand... I'm not saying eat pizza, hotdogs, burgers and milkshakes... Obviously he'll want to construct a nutritional and training REGIMENT... then follow through... but when you craft that plan, obviously, craft it with your goal in mind.... If you want to build muscle... study what foods promote growth with your training program in mind.
I misunderstood?
Youre telling him to just go fucking eat. Be more specific, ass.
Youre telling him to just go fucking eat. Be more specific, ass.
1st of all, thank you to everyone for your help and support
secondly, on the site where I found the 20 rep rountine sqaut routine i found this
Breakfast
4 eggs
2 slices of toast
1 glass of milk
Snack
Bran Muffin
1 glass of milk
Lunch
Sandwich (i.e. meat, cheese, tuna fish, etc.)
piece of fruit
1 glass of milk
Snack
Granola bar
Slice of cheese
1 glass of milk
Supper
Meat (i.e. chicken, beef, pork, etc.)
Pasta, Rice, or Potatoes
Cup of veggies
1 glass of milk
Snack
2 slices of toast
1 glass of milk
*drink plenty of water throughout the day
If that is good, i would have no problem following that...
opinions?
secondly, on the site where I found the 20 rep rountine sqaut routine i found this
Breakfast
4 eggs
2 slices of toast
1 glass of milk
Snack
Bran Muffin
1 glass of milk
Lunch
Sandwich (i.e. meat, cheese, tuna fish, etc.)
piece of fruit
1 glass of milk
Snack
Granola bar
Slice of cheese
1 glass of milk
Supper
Meat (i.e. chicken, beef, pork, etc.)
Pasta, Rice, or Potatoes
Cup of veggies
1 glass of milk
Snack
2 slices of toast
1 glass of milk
*drink plenty of water throughout the day
If that is good, i would have no problem following that...
opinions?
I agree with goandykid i rather get my ass kicked then not fight at all..but that depends on you..
Anyways you should start with at least push ups and sit ups if you cant get to weights atm. Get your diet in check, eat at least 6 times a day, drink plenty of water and maybe even use a protein supliment.Find out how many calories a day you need to eat to gain weight (Bulk), find you motovation maybe that girl you like or something and give it time, Muscles dont grow over night just keep on working and you will get there i promise you. Read the stickies to find a diet right for you and on a routine for training. Good luck
Anyways you should start with at least push ups and sit ups if you cant get to weights atm. Get your diet in check, eat at least 6 times a day, drink plenty of water and maybe even use a protein supliment.Find out how many calories a day you need to eat to gain weight (Bulk), find you motovation maybe that girl you like or something and give it time, Muscles dont grow over night just keep on working and you will get there i promise you. Read the stickies to find a diet right for you and on a routine for training. Good luck
Because he is 6'1" and 130 pounds. I just meant he shouldn't nitpick and worry about eating 100% clean like a lot of us do, just worry about getting in the calories and training regularly and properly.
This is what I mean about the advice "don't worry about getting fat;" this is not enough food. Can you be more specific about serving sizes (total calories, proteins/carbs/fats) and what exactly is in every meal? Saying two slices of toast doesn't mean much since you could be talking about a tiny serving of Wonderbread or a big fat slice of Amana bread. You want to try to evenly distribute your total calories (and macronutrients) between your meals. I wish you would take everyone's advice about reading the stickies.
I agree with this. Most people seem to associate the word "fat" on nutritional labels as the thing that will get you fat.. not true. You need good fats in your diet. Some good fats include: extra virgin olive oil, natural peanut butter, fish oils, nuts. Read around about these and understand why.
to be honest, start off slow.
first take all junk off for a week.
Not even a freakin icecream or pepsi or anything.
just no more junks.
2nd week, start on ur diet if u did good on ur first week, just commit yourself like marriage. It aint a good thing but its there. I was trying so hard to lose weight at first and i never lose any until i got serious about every piece of shit i ate or drank. Then i went 10pounds lower in like 4-5 weeks.
first take all junk off for a week.
Not even a freakin icecream or pepsi or anything.
just no more junks.
2nd week, start on ur diet if u did good on ur first week, just commit yourself like marriage. It aint a good thing but its there. I was trying so hard to lose weight at first and i never lose any until i got serious about every piece of shit i ate or drank. Then i went 10pounds lower in like 4-5 weeks.
Try not to drink that much milk, dairy is something to take lightly especially since it's full of hormones not meant for humans. Carbs need to be emphasized in the morning, and cut back as the day progresses. Make sure your "snack" meals are actual meals not just something you pull out of your pocket and finish eating in 10 seconds. Give yourself plenty of lean and complete protein by having lean animal protein and protein supplement shakes, and make sure you eat a lot of a variety of vegitibles every day.
Eating really clean is not just viable because it's "good" for you. It's viable because if you eat everything clean and nourishing you're not just giving your body useless calories it can't use. With you having a problem with putting on mass you definitely need to make sure everything you're putting into your body is something that it can make good use of.
For supplements I recommend you take two high-potency multivitamines and 1,000mg of vitamin C every morning, along with a good B-complex, and at dinner take 4 grams of fish or flax Omega-3 essential fatty acid gel supplements.
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That's good advice. It's stupid, but I used to be fat and I worried about putting on weight too much. For some reason, the scale disappeared out of the gym for over a month (?). When they put it back I'd gained 10 pounds, and I looked way better after staying the same weight for a long stretch. It broke my habit of jumping on the scale all the time though. Keep an eye on body composition, not your weight...
no offence but you meal suggestions are very poor. The first few meals lack for the most part any protein.
You don't need to have protein in every single meal, the first couple of meals need to be emphasized on healthy lower glycemic carbs to fuel his metabolism for the rest of the day to come, and the third meal of the total six I suggested a good deal of lean protein. I'm also going off the fact that he might not have just anything he wants readily available at all times.
Keep also in mind that I emphasized lean protein in 4 out of the 6 meals. To add, also a person as small as him would have trouble making use of excessive amounts of protein and would dispose of most of it anyway until his body picks up on the new demands.
I'm not fighting you IainDaniel but please note that anything I give out as advice is not from personal preference but from things I've researched thoroughly.
Keep also in mind that I emphasized lean protein in 4 out of the 6 meals. To add, also a person as small as him would have trouble making use of excessive amounts of protein and would dispose of most of it anyway until his body picks up on the new demands.
I'm not fighting you IainDaniel but please note that anything I give out as advice is not from personal preference but from things I've researched thoroughly.
That is very true, I am actually going to take what i learn from this thread and go grocery shopping though, my dad is pretty good for getting me the groceries I need.
another question-
Would I eat a snack, protein shake befor "or" after a workout.
I also heard it was good to eat meats following a workout because it releases hormones which encourage muscle growth, is this valid?
I am not looking for a fight, I am looking to learn like the rest of the people here. Why do you suggest no protein? Why are you suggesting so much processed carbs muffins/ bread?
He is young lets instill healthy eating habits now.
He wants muscle. Protein/amino acids, the building blocks of muscle development.
Im sorry im getting confused here. What meals should have which, proteins,carbs,fats?
Breakfast
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Snack
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Lunch
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Snack
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Dinner
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Snack
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I want to try and make a grocery list,
also, i downloaded this bulkup pdf, it has lots of info, but i don't know if its legit. Has anyone seen this?this is what it had to say
It was off a link--"Attention Skinny guys who want to be big" right down my alley.
Breakfast
When bulking up you should aim to eat at least 50 grams of protein and 1000 calories
each morning for breakfast. This will start your day off right for maximum muscle
building. It really doesn't matter what you eat, just as long as you eat. If you are in a
hurry you can have a protein drink, 2 slices of toast with peanut butter, and a piece of
fruit. Or if you have some extra time you can cook up steak, eggs, hash browns,
pancakes, etc. You can even go to McDonald's or another restaurant and load up for
breakfast.
LunchHere are some tips for eating lunch at school or work:
- You can cook foods such as chicken, beef, turkey, rice, pasta, etc. ahead of time
and put them in a Tupperware container to reheat in the microwave.
- Make sandwiches such as tuna, roast beef, turkey, etc.
- Mix a protein shake and take it with you in a thermos or shaker bottle.
- Take protein bars, fruit and vegetables such as: apples, bananas, carrot sticks, etc.
- Put trail mix (i.e. dried fruit, nuts, etc.) in a zip lock bag.
- Take a frozen dinner to heat up in the microwave.
Some frozen dinners make great high calorie bulk up meals. For example, the ???Hungry-
Man Classic Fried Chicken Dinner??? has 790 calories and 33 grams of protein.
When I was in college I used to take 4 peanut butter and jam sandwiches, 2 chicken
breasts, and a big bottle of water to school with me each day. We had a 10 minute break
in between each class so I would eat a sandwich or chicken breast in between each class.
By the end of the day I had all of my sandwiches and chicken eaten.
Dinner
For dinner you can eat basically any meat and potatoes type of meal. Get some cook
books and lean to make some good mouth watering meals. The tastier you make your
meals the easier it will be to eat the volume of food necessary to build maximum muscle
mass. Also be sure to visit your local restaurants and the all you can eat buffets on a
regular basis!
Good snacks to eat during day in between your meals include dried fruit, nuts, olives,
cottage cheese, yoghurt, cereal and milk, fresh fruit, protein bars, and protein drinks.
Like I mentioned before, try not to go any longer then 2 hours without eating something.
You need a steady supply of nutrients and calories throughout the day to keep your body
in an anabolic state.
Another weight gain trick that you can use to help you build maximum size is to have a
high calorie protein drink in the middle of the night. During the night when your body
goes without food for several hours is one of the most catabolic times. But you can
overcome this by having a protein shake pre-mixed and keep it in the refrigerator. Then
if you wake up during the night to use the washroom or what ever, you can go to the
kitchen and have your pre-mixed protein drink.
If the drink is already pre-mixed you???ll be more likely to drink it then if you have to go
through the trouble of mixing it up while you are still half asleep. So be sure to mix up
the drink in advance before you go to bed.
Breakfast
-------
Snack
-------
Lunch
-------
Snack
-------
Dinner
-------
Snack
-------
I want to try and make a grocery list,
also, i downloaded this bulkup pdf, it has lots of info, but i don't know if its legit. Has anyone seen this?this is what it had to say
It was off a link--"Attention Skinny guys who want to be big" right down my alley.
Breakfast
When bulking up you should aim to eat at least 50 grams of protein and 1000 calories
each morning for breakfast. This will start your day off right for maximum muscle
building. It really doesn't matter what you eat, just as long as you eat. If you are in a
hurry you can have a protein drink, 2 slices of toast with peanut butter, and a piece of
fruit. Or if you have some extra time you can cook up steak, eggs, hash browns,
pancakes, etc. You can even go to McDonald's or another restaurant and load up for
breakfast.
LunchHere are some tips for eating lunch at school or work:
- You can cook foods such as chicken, beef, turkey, rice, pasta, etc. ahead of time
and put them in a Tupperware container to reheat in the microwave.
- Make sandwiches such as tuna, roast beef, turkey, etc.
- Mix a protein shake and take it with you in a thermos or shaker bottle.
- Take protein bars, fruit and vegetables such as: apples, bananas, carrot sticks, etc.
- Put trail mix (i.e. dried fruit, nuts, etc.) in a zip lock bag.
- Take a frozen dinner to heat up in the microwave.
Some frozen dinners make great high calorie bulk up meals. For example, the ???Hungry-
Man Classic Fried Chicken Dinner??? has 790 calories and 33 grams of protein.
When I was in college I used to take 4 peanut butter and jam sandwiches, 2 chicken
breasts, and a big bottle of water to school with me each day. We had a 10 minute break
in between each class so I would eat a sandwich or chicken breast in between each class.
By the end of the day I had all of my sandwiches and chicken eaten.
Dinner
For dinner you can eat basically any meat and potatoes type of meal. Get some cook
books and lean to make some good mouth watering meals. The tastier you make your
meals the easier it will be to eat the volume of food necessary to build maximum muscle
mass. Also be sure to visit your local restaurants and the all you can eat buffets on a
regular basis!
Good snacks to eat during day in between your meals include dried fruit, nuts, olives,
cottage cheese, yoghurt, cereal and milk, fresh fruit, protein bars, and protein drinks.
Like I mentioned before, try not to go any longer then 2 hours without eating something.
You need a steady supply of nutrients and calories throughout the day to keep your body
in an anabolic state.
Another weight gain trick that you can use to help you build maximum size is to have a
high calorie protein drink in the middle of the night. During the night when your body
goes without food for several hours is one of the most catabolic times. But you can
overcome this by having a protein shake pre-mixed and keep it in the refrigerator. Then
if you wake up during the night to use the washroom or what ever, you can go to the
kitchen and have your pre-mixed protein drink.
If the drink is already pre-mixed you???ll be more likely to drink it then if you have to go
through the trouble of mixing it up while you are still half asleep. So be sure to mix up
the drink in advance before you go to bed.
Whole Wheat Toast and Bran Muffins are on the safe side for carbohydrate intake, more processed and unhealthy carbs would be like white bread toast and blueberry muffins.
The glycemic index holds most bran muffins in the 40s and toast in the low 50s which of course makes them border line and there are more suggestable alternatives, but given that he had them already in his list I only sought to modify his quantity since it's given that he has them available. Also I suggested an uptake of fruit which is the best source of carbs you can get in the earlier hours of the day.
Again I have not suggested "no protein" at all--
Meal #3 "lots of meat like a shredded chicken breast"
Meal #4 "instead have a Protein shake"
Meal #5 "have a hefty serving of lean meat"
Meal #5 "a scoop of your protein in milk"
I've just allocated the amounts to be consumed during the more beneficial times of the day. The first meal I suggested is 75% carbs, 15% protein, and 10% fat which is a good ratio for a morning meal.
One good read to consider if you want to look more into it is "Food for Fitness" by Chris Charmichael which gives some insight into gearing specific foods to specific times of the day for the purposes of training (of any kind). There are others but that's the best one I've read so far.
Joet this is bad news, peanut butter is concentrated with fat and NOT good for the morning, and never ever should you be pointed to a fast food resturaunt as a part of ANY fitness advice. You need to eat a lot, but it needs to be healthy, well planned CLEAN burning food. Greasy fatty foods are considered empty or pollutant carriers which means you are getting calories but they provide your body no benefit whatsoever and in some cases will affect you adversely. Have you read the stickies in this section yet?
The glycemic index holds most bran muffins in the 40s and toast in the low 50s which of course makes them border line and there are more suggestable alternatives, but given that he had them already in his list I only sought to modify his quantity since it's given that he has them available. Also I suggested an uptake of fruit which is the best source of carbs you can get in the earlier hours of the day.
Again I have not suggested "no protein" at all--
Meal #3 "lots of meat like a shredded chicken breast"
Meal #4 "instead have a Protein shake"
Meal #5 "have a hefty serving of lean meat"
Meal #5 "a scoop of your protein in milk"
I've just allocated the amounts to be consumed during the more beneficial times of the day. The first meal I suggested is 75% carbs, 15% protein, and 10% fat which is a good ratio for a morning meal.
One good read to consider if you want to look more into it is "Food for Fitness" by Chris Charmichael which gives some insight into gearing specific foods to specific times of the day for the purposes of training (of any kind). There are others but that's the best one I've read so far.
Joet this is bad news, peanut butter is concentrated with fat and NOT good for the morning, and never ever should you be pointed to a fast food resturaunt as a part of ANY fitness advice. You need to eat a lot, but it needs to be healthy, well planned CLEAN burning food. Greasy fatty foods are considered empty or pollutant carriers which means you are getting calories but they provide your body no benefit whatsoever and in some cases will affect you adversely. Have you read the stickies in this section yet?
Not sure what it is like in the Arab Emirates, but in North America whole wheat bread is just glorified white bread. I would like to see the ingredient profiles and macros for both the bread and muffins, the muffins here depending on which he is using can be loaded with fats and sugar.
I guess I am of a different opinion of macro requirments. Sure the profiles you provide may be good for someone who is a marathon runner, or one using up there glycogen stores with an extreme activity requirement. But someone with asthetic goals, don't need to meet those requirements, as they won't deplete the glycogen stores like someone in your position.
United Arab Emirates, that's like calling us the States of America.
Happy Thanksgiving, do you do anything up there in the 51st state?
Gee thanks for the correction Goandy from states of america
We celebrate Thanksgiving when it was originally celebrated in October.
Yes we do
