I highly doubt they showed some real results,did they work out before.I mean for a person thats never trained and starts training will get results faster than the experienced person.
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I highly doubt they showed some real results,did they work out before.I mean for a person thats never trained and starts training will get results faster than the experienced person.
Yeah I sense jealously in alot of people also.We're both going for the same thing but I choose to do something you won't and because of that I reap the benefits.And yes for the benefits I'm gonna suffer later on in life.And yes I'll see what taking a shortcut will do to me.Lets see some proof behind these bold statements.Some cold hard proof.
And for everyone I'm talking smart,intelligent usuage not abusing or misusing like everybody who gets there info from the media likes to talk bout.And actually believe what there being spoonfed and brainwashed to believe.
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The two guys that I actually observed first hand did have some workout experience, but not from Id say a year before they shot up.
One of them actually put on some mass.
The other just maintained what was shrinking.
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I guess I have good genetics, but my father said I dont. He said he never got as big as I have and my mother's side of the family sure doesnt have large members, so I dont know. 
I would say that in my area, almost every person I know or know of who juices, never gets as strong or as big as me. Ive got years of experience behind me and they dont. That does actually make me feel pretty good.
Of course, they dont take this shit seriously, meaning writing up programs, eating clean food, sleeping right, etc. They are in for America's "I want it and I want it by yesterday afternoon" mentality.
I would say that in my area, almost every person I know or know of who juices, never gets as strong or as big as me. Ive got years of experience behind me and they dont. That does actually make me feel pretty good.
Of course, they dont take this shit seriously, meaning writing up programs, eating clean food, sleeping right, etc. They are in for America's "I want it and I want it by yesterday afternoon" mentality.
I guess I have good genetics, but my father said I dont. He said he never got as big as I have and my mother's side of the family sure doesnt have large members, so I dont know.
I would say that in my area, almost every person I know or know of who juices, never gets as strong or as big as me. Ive got years of experience behind me and they dont. That does actually make me feel pretty good.
Of course, they dont take this shit seriously, meaning writing up programs, eating clean food, sleeping right, etc. They are in for America's "I want it and I want it by yesterday afternoon" mentality.
See those are just kids in my eyes(regardless of age).And the people that make so called juicers look bad.Its funny cause they never amount to anything in weightlifting and never learn any true knowledge.When they come off they don't know how to train,and eventually just give up.Like every other so called has been that tries to talk to me about lifting."Ya,know kid when I was your age I used to work out all the time too,with arms like this"
And thats when I usually laugh and keep quiet so they get the point that I really don't care,dipshit.
I personally don't give a damn about whether someone uses 'roids, as long as he's honest about it. People get respect from me if they work hard, with or without anabolic steroids.
Jon Harris gets respect, but so does Ronnie Coleman.
Jon Harris gets respect, but so does Ronnie Coleman.
Lets face it, there is no way Coleman (or a lot of bb'ers for that matter)could be as big as he is without roids, no matter how much time/effort he puts into his traning/diet he cannot naturally get that big without roids. period. So to the person saying taking roids is pathetic i disagree, i think some people take them without the proper education and therefore A: risk themselves more than they have to in terms of adverse effects on their health and B: Dont use them as efficiently as they could do and so in effect waste them. However to the pro bb'ers who are using them to give themselves that extra edge which they could no way get naturally, i say fair play to them.
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I dont know about you guys, but i would much rather look like those natural body builders then the contestants for mr olympia, or the women for god sakes, i wouldnt even touch one of those bit*hes, id probably get radiation posioning! And believe me its not like im against illegal drugs, i used to smoke weed for a good 2 years, almost everyday some weeks everyday, but then i gave all that up when i saw myself getting really lazy, and doing bad in school, and all the affects of it, so i guess what im saying is, you may think steroids are good right now because your seeing such great results, but you truly dont know how there going to affect you in the long run, you can dream and play it out however you want, but one day your gonna wake up and reality is gonna smack you right in the face, and well now its to late 
Since when do steroids contain radioactive chemicals? 
You need to remember that a lot of pro's make a living through their bodybuilding, it is their whole life, they spend 90% of their life training/eating and making sure there resting.
A lot of people probably wouldn't want to look like any of the pro's but the pro's are competing and they are more concerned about being the best as apposed to how attractive women find them. No doubt 20 years down the line they may regret what they have done if their health deteriorates due to streoid abuse.. but thats for another debate really.
You need to remember that a lot of pro's make a living through their bodybuilding, it is their whole life, they spend 90% of their life training/eating and making sure there resting.
A lot of people probably wouldn't want to look like any of the pro's but the pro's are competing and they are more concerned about being the best as apposed to how attractive women find them. No doubt 20 years down the line they may regret what they have done if their health deteriorates due to streoid abuse.. but thats for another debate really.
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I personally don't really care if they do roids or not, but I think the reason most don't openly admit it is because people will think that they didn't work as hard for it or had that magic pill and it made their muscles grow huge. They want credit for all that hard work, and admiting to steroids some how takes away from that, most people don't realize you still have to work your ass off to get that big.
I dont know about you guys, but i would much rather look like those natural body builders then the contestants for mr olympia, or the women for god sakes, i wouldnt even touch one of those bit*hes, id probably get radiation posioning! And believe me its not like im against illegal drugs, i used to smoke weed for a good 2 years, almost everyday some weeks everyday, but then i gave all that up when i saw myself getting really lazy, and doing bad in school, and all the affects of it, so i guess what im saying is, you may think steroids are good right now because your seeing such great results, but you truly dont know how there going to affect you in the long run, you can dream and play it out however you want, but one day your gonna wake up and reality is gonna smack you right in the face, and well now its to late
Umm yeah I can tell by your post your a youngster....smoking weed not a good comparison to AAS use.Keep reading though,learning as much as possible
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I think the only way to settle this argument is the who wants it most theory.I think it's great that you set records and where all natural but I wanted it even more than you and was willing to run the risk of steroids.Coleman wants it bad, he busts his ass and eats properly so he wants to be the best he can be and that includes juice.I don't see them as a short cut anymore than I see taking a protein shake as a shortcut because you didn't eat chicken instead.It's not a magic pill or needle so why would it be diffrent than creatine as far as a shortcut.Sure it gives better results but it's not doing the work for you.
Who gives a shit if they use or not. It's their choice and they have to live with their choices and not anyone else. They know the consequences and the possible future problems but they still make the choice. So be it.
Personally though, I do not find those that use AAS to be aesthetically pleasing. I prefer the athletic look over the "big" look. IOW - Harris over Coleman, any day!
Personally though, I do not find those that use AAS to be aesthetically pleasing. I prefer the athletic look over the "big" look. IOW - Harris over Coleman, any day!
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Totally agree and well said!!
not natural, that is your argument? that holds no water, half of what you eat every day is not natural.
serious health risks? you can say that about any OTC drug, alcohol, tobacco, caffeine and many other substances. do you eat fast food because that has more health risks than using steroids.
you are buying into media sensationalism, steroids can and are used safely by many athletes, not just bodybuilders. do you watch football because they use them as well to enhance performance and speed up recovery time.
do you approve of woman taking birth control pills? because that is unnatural and it is a hormone as well.
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Dumbest shit I have ever heard.
people that think that way are ignorant (uneducated) on the subject.
all they know is that steroids caused Lyle Alzado's brain tumor, and we know this because Lyle said it did.
btw, I am not implying that there are no health risks in using steroids.
all they know is that steroids caused Lyle Alzado's brain tumor, and we know this because Lyle said it did.
btw, I am not implying that there are no health risks in using steroids.
I agree, explain why you take them.
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people that think that way are ignorant (uneducated) on the subject.
all they know is that steroids caused Lyle Alzado's brain tumor, and we know this because Lyle said it did.
btw, I am not implying that there are no health risks in using steroids.
I think that is Exactly it!...People only know what the media puts out there, which is usually negative. I don't know a whole lot about steroids, but I do know they are not as bad as most think. I think most of the people who have had problems with them is becuase of Abuse, not just USE.
There was a book once posted around here about this very subject.
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The trouble is, just like any other drug, the gains you get from steroids can be quite addictive to people who lift. It is very easy for someone to go from simple use to overdoing it because they want the gains it gives them again and again.
I'd be interested to actually hear the story of anyone who has done just one cycle, what gains they made and why they did not do another one. Any user that I know personally has done more than one, even if it is a year between them.
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That was something I have always heard girls say. Girls would see muscle and fitness magazines and say:
"You want to look like that? I like muscles, but not that much, thats just disgusting."
Ive heard more girls say that they didnt like the "huge" look than girls I heard say they did like it.
I workout to obtain a look above the average gym rat. Not too big, not too small, just right. Kinda like...ah nevermind.
They really dont look at bodybuilding as a careful process. Overtraining beyond belief, eat shit all day, etc. The people I see most of the time can be labeled as "short cutting" Id say. They can also be labeled as idiots too, but whos judging?
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I don't. I am clean as a whistle, and every gain I have is natural.
I tired a cycle once and hurt myself, because I wasn???t educated enough before starting them. It took me 8 months to get back where I was before I started them.
I took them because I was close to my natural limit. I either had to gain some fat to get stronger or lose some muscle to get leaner. Like most of the people on this board that used them, they had trained for years before even considering AS.
I have trained with people who have taken roids, and it is no shortcut, I guarantee you that. The side effects are horrendous. It is a trade off.
Also, it sounds to me that the ones whining are a little jealous.
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They are. Ill bet they are jealous for the same reasons that people think (generally speaking) you take steroids, when you really do not.
As far as most girls yeah, me, no I like a bit more. I like muscle just not overdone.
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You can actually put the shoe on the other foot too.
A woman who works out and develops a hard curvy body is sexier than a "skinny fatty" with a pretty face.
However...
Too big of a woman is in fact disgusting...but some guys like it, just as some girls like the huge look in guys.
It does boil down to preference, but as long as you have a nice body through hard work, youll have a better chance of finding more fish in your pond and have the pick of the litter.
Yes thats two adadges for the price of one post.
no that doesn't mean it should be legal that means alcohol should be illegal
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