Do bodybuilders take sterioids?

[fufu]

Pro bodybuilders must take large amounts of anabolic drugs to support the LBM they carry on their frames.

 

[fufu]

I don't use steroids.

I also don't smoke weed but I think it should be legal, safer than alcohol in many ways.

 

[Pedro TT]

They are. Ill bet they are jealous for the same reasons that people think (generally speaking) you take steroids, when you really do not.

Oh yeah that it. I'm TOTALLY jelous of all the horrendous acne, ball-shrinking and sterilization associated with steroids. Oh and dont forget about those various long term health effects

The muscles are totally worth it

I personally have no problem with somebody juicing. The only reason I get worked up is when someone tries to explain to me that its all fine and dandy with it when in reality, its its common knowledge that juicing has potential for serious long term medical complications. Its like smoking....sure you MIGHT not get cancer, enphusema or any other smoking related illness but your chances of dying from them are significantly increased because you chose to smoke.

 

[blueboy75]

The trouble is, just like any other drug, the gains you get from steroids can be quite addictive to people who lift. It is very easy for someone to go from simple use to overdoing it because they want the gains it gives them again and again.

I'd be interested to actually hear the story of anyone who has done just one cycle, what gains they made and why they did not do another one. Any user that I know personally has done more than one, even if it is a year between them.

I did a straight test cycle approx 13 years ago, I was 19 at the time. I was heavily influenced by a competing BB friend of mine at the time who persuaded my to try. I had made modest gains naturally up until this point from training hard for about 3 years.

At 19, I tried to mix a cycle and social life of clubs/drinking/poor diet together. I am amazed looking back of the gains I actually made during this cycle considering how poor my diet/rest was etc.

Why I never did another cycle was due to experiencing significant bloat from the cycle - probably from poor diet, incorrect dosages and no PCT.

I also stopped training altogether about 2 years later and put on a significant amount of fat (especially around midsection and face). Every ounce of muscle I gained from the cycle quickly disappeared.

5 years ago I took the initiative to get back into shape (naturally) and I can truly say im satisfied with my physique now (I could lose a few pounds further around my midsection). I am a big believer of muscle memory and I regained at least 40-50% of the size I had during my cycle.

Sure I think about what it would be like to do another cycle, but at 31 - my cycle days are over.

 

[JonnyStead]

At 33 I'm sure I'm too old to start playing around with them. For me, if you want to use Roids, thats up to you - but I dont think there is a doubt that you are at least running the risk of problems in later life. For me thats the main reason I wouldnt touch them - there is no point looking strong now and needing a new heart at 55 - seems a bit like snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory to me.

The one thing that does concern me is referring to them as 'juice' . Juice implies that they are some kind of natural healthy option and I'm sure to the uninitiated the name kinda hides the risks you run by using them. I think we should all make sure (whether we believe in them or not) that noobs are advised of possible risks they run in using them. Just my two penneth worth

 

[WYLER98]

Who cares if a person uses Roids or not. Every action has a consequence. We all know what they are if you take Roids good or bad.

However, personally I don't use them. I get more satisfaction knowing that my gains are produced through normal natural practices that i can use for the rest of my life. Therefore I will be able to maintain my strength and size for the rest of my life (relatively speaking).

Would you rather be Lyle Alzado (death due too steriod use) or Jack Lalanne (still kickin in his 90's)? It is a simple chioce for me. But, to each his own.

 

[Witchblade]

no that doesn't mean it should be legal that means alcohol should be illegal

You've got to be kidding me, right?

 

[musclepump]

Oh yeah that it. I'm TOTALLY jelous of all the horrendous acne, ball-shrinking and sterilization associated with steroids. Oh and dont forget about those various long term health effects

Could you please name some scientifically proven (not this stupid media science) long term health effects associated with responsible steroid usage in adult men?

I'd love to see them because, again and again, science has proven that adult males can use supraphysiological doses of testosterone with absolutely no long-term or irreversible side effects.

 

[musclepump]

At 33 I'm sure I'm too old to start playing around with them.

Mid 30's is probably the best time to start using AAS, actually. Assuming of course your training and diet are spot on.

 

[Pedro TT]

Could you please name some scientifically proven (not this stupid media science) long term health effects associated with responsible steroid usage in adult men?

I'd love to see them because, again and again, science has proven that adult males can use supraphysiological doses of testosterone with absolutely no long-term or irreversible side effects.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/performance-enhancing-drugs/HQ01105

30 seconds on google got me that link. Sure I could find something which seems like its more medically sound but thats about all the information you need right there.

Anabolic steroids:
Some athletes take a form of steroids ??? known as anabolic steroids ??? to increase their muscle mass and strength. The main anabolic steroid hormone produced by your body is testosterone.

Testosterone has two main effects on your body:

Anabolic effects promote muscle building.
Androgenic effects are responsible for male traits, such as facial hair and a deeper voice.
The anabolic steroids that athletes use are synthetic modifications of testosterone. These drugs were developed in an attempt to maximize the anabolic effects and minimize the androgenic effects of testosterone. As it turns out, these two actions of testosterone can't be separated.

Given as pills, injection or topical treatment, these hormones have many medical uses. Some of these include replacement therapy for men deficient in testosterone, helping people with AIDS maintain muscle mass and reduce muscle wasting, and treating rare types of anemia.

However, many athletes take anabolic steroids at doses that are much higher than those prescribed for medical reasons. The effects of taking anabolic steroids at very high doses haven't been well studied.

Anabolic steroids come with serious side effects.

Men may develop:

Prominent breasts
Baldness
Shrunken testicles
A higher voice
Infertility
Women may develop:

A deeper voice
An enlarged clitoris
Increased body hair
Baldness
Increased appetite
Both men and women might experience:

Severe acne
Liver abnormalities and tumors
Increased low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol (the "bad" cholesterol)
Decreased high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol (the "good" cholesterol)

Like I said before, I DONT CARE IF YOU PUMP THAT SHIT INTO YOUR BODY!! I just hate it when all the juicers try to convince me that it isnt bad for you!!! I dont care if these effects are only temporary while on cycle.

 

[largepkg]

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/performance-enhancing-drugs/HQ01105

30 seconds on google got me that link. Sure I could find something which seems like its more medically sound but thats about all the information you need right there.




Like I said before, I DONT CARE IF YOU PUMP THAT SHIT INTO YOUR BODY!! I just hate it when all the juicers try to convince me that it isnt bad for you!!! I dont care if these effects are only temporary while on cycle.

I don't think that we're trying to convince you they aren't bad for you. More like we're trying to enlighten the ones who believe all the negatives about AAS. MP was simply asking for scientific proof. Sure, abuse can be very bad for you but responsible use is what we're talking about.

I would never try to talk someone into taking AAS. I'm just the opposite. I want people to discover and research it for themselves. Then decide where to go from there.

"The sky is falling" mentality is the shit that pisses most of us off.

 

[AKIRA]

Oh yeah that it. I'm TOTALLY jelous of all the horrendous acne, ball-shrinking and sterilization associated with steroids. Oh and dont forget about those various long term health effects

The muscles are totally worth it

Not sure why you quoted me since I dont take roids. I was stating that my size and numbers make people believe that I am juicing when I am not, hence the jealousy remark.

By the way, I developed acne on the top of my shoulders after 5 years of training and still no juice...so whats to blame for that? Genetics? Wrong soap? Shitty shirts? Why not?

 

[NordicNacho]

Not sure why you quoted me since I dont take roids. I was stating that my size and numbers make people believe that I am juicing when I am not, hence the jealousy remark.

By the way, I developed acne on the top of my shoulders after 5 years of training and still no juice...so whats to blame for that? Genetics? Wrong soap? Shitty shirts? Why not?

To many man massages can cause shoulder acne. What kind of oils are you guys using? Best cure is to let the sun hit it and dry it out.

 

[AKIRA]

To many man massages can cause shoulder acne. What kind of oils are you guys using? Best cure is to let the sun hit it and dry it out.

I didnt want to go off on a tangent by it. What I was pointing out is that it could be acne or labeled as acne and guess what, a label of juicing comes with it.

 

[largepkg]

I didnt want to go off on a tangent by it. What I was pointing out is that it could be acne or labeled as acne and guess what, a label of juicing comes with it.

Well, obviously you're a juicer. Stop denying it and accept what others believe.

 

[Yanick]

I'm neither pro nor con steroid use. However two things irk me about steroids

1. When juicers enter tested contests after being off for a couple of months claiming to be 'natural'

2. The huge amount of misinformation that is prevalent amongst the media and the everyday layman in regards to steroids' effects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9DSzeuFVJU&mode=related&search=

 

[musclepump]

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/performance-enhancing-drugs/HQ01105

30 seconds on google got me that link. Sure I could find something which seems like its more medically sound but thats about all the information you need right there.

It is links like those that spread the misinformation. There's not one real study quoted in that entire thing! That link is absolutely USELESS.

 

[ABCs]

This is the way I look at steroids... like drugs. They can be a good time used by the right person IN MODERATION. It's when they get in the hands of the wrong person and are abused is when everything turns to mush. And that's exactly why they are illegal.

 

[LT81]

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/performance-enhancing-drugs/HQ01105

30 seconds on google got me that link. Sure I could find something which seems like its more medically sound but thats about all the information you need right there.



Like I said before, I DONT CARE IF YOU PUMP THAT SHIT INTO YOUR BODY!! I just hate it when all the juicers try to convince me that it isnt bad for you!!! I dont care if these effects are only temporary while on cycle.

Good in 30sec you found exactly what YOU wanted to hear on steroids.Look a little deeper into that info you got there son,there talking about mega high excessive dosages(Which is called abusing by the way).In this discussion everyone's try to talk about intelligent,responsible usuage.And it just seems that everybody aganist it has some off the wall type story of an abuser or something to that extent


Damn could you imagine,if he was a user,everyone would say"See thats that ROID RAGE coming out"

 

[AKIRA]

Well, obviously you're a juicer. Stop denying it and accept what others believe.

I dont wanna

 

[Pedro TT]

I'm neither pro nor con steroid use. However two things irk me about steroids

1. When juicers enter tested contests after being off for a couple of months claiming to be 'natural'

2. The huge amount of misinformation that is prevalent amongst the media and the everyday layman in regards to steroids' effects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9DSzeuFVJU&mode=related&search=

That news peice changed my opinions completely. I did more research after seeing that and as everyone stated before me, I have yet to find a totally unbiased research study stating that steriods when properly taken have no known long-term health effects.

 

[Arnold]

This is the way I look at steroids... like drugs. They can be a good time used by the right person IN MODERATION. It's when they get in the hands of the wrong person and are abused is when everything turns to mush. And that's exactly why they are illegal.

I agree with the first part but not the second.

Most drugs are illegal for political and financial reasons, i.e. steroids, that one was completely political.

Bottom line, don't think the government makes drugs illegal because they care about your health, they don't.

 

[NordicNacho]

I agree with the first part but not the second.

Most drugs are illegal for political and financial reasons, i.e. steroids, that one was completely political.

Bottom line, don't think the government makes drugs illegal because they care about your health, they don't.

Cigarettes are just one example. Shit is addictive and kills way more people then any drug. When sales go down they just add more nicotine. How many people do you know that steriods killed? How many from cigarettes?

 

[NordicNacho]

lots of information here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroid

cool links at the bottom

 

[Spud]

Cigarettes are just one example. Shit is addictive and kills way more people then any drug. When sales go down they just add more nicotine. How many people do you know that steriods killed? How many from cigarettes?

What a stupid argument. How many people are killed in car accidents? How many people die at work? Should we just eliminate cars and working?

 

[NordicNacho]

What a stupid argument. How many people are killed in car accidents? How many people die at work? Should we just eliminate cars and working?

I can't believe you just wrote that

 

[Yanick]

That news peice changed my opinions completely. I did more research after seeing that and as everyone stated before me, I have yet to find a totally unbiased research study stating that steriods when properly taken have no known long-term health effects.

I'm glad i could open your eyes on the subject just remember that lack of a properly executed long term studies does not mean they are good for you. If you dig around the anabolic section and read up on posts by Trouble!, you'll see that steroids affect way more than one's HPTA and muscular systems. A lot of the effects are unknown and one always needs to weigh the risk:reward ratio when trying to decide whether anabolics are right for him/her or not.

 

[largepkg]

What a stupid argument. How many people are killed in car accidents? How many people die at work? Should we just eliminate cars and working?

Dude, you really didn't just say that did you?

 

[LT81]

What a stupid argument. How many people are killed in car accidents? How many people die at work? Should we just eliminate cars and working?

Its pretty funny how the misinformed also post up some pretty idiotic analogies.Do you honestly think those are even comparable?

 

[ABCs]

I agree with the first part but not the second.

Most drugs are illegal for political and financial reasons, i.e. steroids, that one was completely political.

Bottom line, don't think the government makes drugs illegal because they care about your health, they don't.

Never said they ban them to protect us. I don't even trust the bastards (Reps and Dirty Libs) with my money, let alone my life. One things for sure, this steroid argument has been beaten to death.