Test E. Cycle Tomorrow...

[tryn2getbig]

I will be starting my cycle of Test E., Deca and Dbol tomorrow. I was just wondering, am I going to have to keep taking the vitamins and what not while on this cycle? I was taking B12, Vitamin C, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Milk Thistle, and some other vitamins while on the M1T cycles. I know since M1T is bioavailable, it was harder on the liver. Is this the same for injectables? I just want to make sure everything is in order before I start.

Thanks for the assistance...

 

[Pirate!]

The same precautions you took with M1T should be taken with dbol.

 

[tryn2getbig]

I'm using a 23ga. needle, but its taking like 3-4 minutes to shoot. Will a 21ga. make a difference when the test is coming out? Anyone know of what the reccommended ga. would be to use for test e and deca?

 

[musclepump]

I'm using a 23ga. needle, but its taking like 3-4 minutes to shoot. Will a 21ga. make a difference when the test is coming out? Anyone know of what the reccommended ga. would be to use for test e and deca?

Brother that's like poking yourself with the blunt end of a stick. 23g should be fine for most gear (more than fine) if you heat the vial first.

 

[microtel]

I always use 21G for all Test Cyp injections, w/a 1" needle.
Takes only a few seconds. Draws from the bottle easy too.

 

[Pirate!]

That must be thick gear. I use 22 gauge in the glutes. Put the vial in a warm (not super hot) bath of water for 5 minutes.

 

[microtel]

How do you reach the Glutes by yourself?
With help, yes, but alone...?

Seems awkward. Technique?

 

[TrojanMan60563]

How do you reach the Glutes by yourself?
With help, yes, but alone...?

Seems awkward. Technique?

has to be done with one hand...push it in...hold in place and pull back on plunger....no blood...push in the plunger...all done!

 

[tryn2getbig]

I will try heating the vial up with some warm water. If you all say it will work, I'm all in! As for the needles, I'll stay with what I got for now.

One more question, I know after an M1T cycle, it took a couple weeks for my libido to get back to normal. Is this going to be the same after this cycle, if not worst? If so, is there anything with PCT that can help get it going sooner? I will be heading home for about 10 days and want to make sure I can "perform" while back. I'm going to be back mid July and I don't want to cut my cycle short in order to be "normal" again. If all else fails, there are the magic blue or white pills! Any suggestions?

 

[tryn2getbig]

Ok, with my reading it seems as hCG would help with the last question. Are there any internet "research" sites out there that would offer such a solution?

 

[kicka19]

has to be done with one hand...push it in...hold in place and pull back on plunger....no blood...push in the plunger...all done!

i don't think aspirating is even necessary with glutes, cant hurt tho

 

[TrojanMan60563]

i don't think aspirating is even necessary with glutes, cant hurt tho

I think its very unlikely you would hit a vein that deep...but I have gone through them before because when I pull out I bleed like a stuck pig...better safe than sorry.

 

[LAM]

I use a 25g for everything but I go in the pecs, quads and calves. too hard to reach the ass these days. just warm up the vial with some warm water from the sink

 

[tryn2getbig]

I use a 25g for everything but I go in the pecs, quads and calves. too hard to reach the ass these days. just warm up the vial with some warm water from the sink

Does it matter where the inject point is? Does injecting into the chest give different results than the leg, arm, or calves?

 

[LAM]

nah...results will be the same regardless of the injection site. I just find in easier to inject in those sites as I don't have to use a mirror so I'm more relaxed. and with more inj sites you end up hitting the same spot less and of course using a smaller gauge needle causes less trauma to muscle

 

[camarosuper6]

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[LAM]

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shoot me an email. I think I owe you some $

 

[tryn2getbig]

I was wondering, would it make too big a difference to add 50mg-100mg. Test Propionate for the first week or two? I have some and have read that it only lasts about two days but it helps with strength increase and increases appetite. So, if I were to add 50mg every two-three days for first week or so until the enanthate kicks in, would it make a huge difference?

Is it recommended to use a needle more than once? I don't want to, but in case the other needles don't arrive by the time I run out. Thanks...

 

[TrojanMan60563]

I was wondering, would it make too big a difference to add 50mg-100mg. Test Propionate for the first week or two? I have some and have read that it only lasts about two days but it helps with strength increase and increases appetite. So, if I were to add 50mg every two-three days for first week or so until the enanthate kicks in, would it make a huge difference?

Is it recommended to use a needle more than once? I don't want to, but in case the other needles don't arrive by the time I run out. Thanks...

You can run the prop for the first 2-4 weeks but you will increase risk of sides and getting gyno.

I wouldn't use a needle more than once....its asking for infection and increased pain when injecting...not to mention bacteria into the vial you are reusing....so long story short...NO...wait till you get mroe pins...depending on where you ordered them from its usually only a few days....or pay out the ass at walgreens for them....or you should have planned this a little better....or maybe don't start the cycle until you have everything you need...like the pins! I hope you have considered what you are doing for PCT...and actually have the stuff. You must not be the planner type huh?

 

[tryn2getbig]

You can run the prop for the first 2-4 weeks but you will increase risk of sides and getting gyno.

I wouldn't use a needle more than once....its asking for infection and increased pain when injecting...not to mention bacteria into the vial you are reusing....so long story short...NO...wait till you get mroe pins...depending on where you ordered them from its usually only a few days....or pay out the ass at walgreens for them....or you should have planned this a little better....or maybe don't start the cycle until you have everything you need...like the pins! I hope you have considered what you are doing for PCT...and actually have the stuff. You must not be the planner type huh?

Actually, I did plan ahead. I had enough pins for my cycle and then some. I have everything I need for PCT, except HCG which is on it's way. Only thing I didn't plan on was another person doing the cycle with me. He didn't have anything, just what I had so that put a damper on my plans. Plus I already started when he told me he wanted to cycle as well. Oh, and I'm in Iraq, so we haven't got a walgreens that I can pay out the ass at... And it definitely doesn't take a few days to get here either! More so 14-19 days.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Actually, I did plan ahead. I had enough pins for my cycle and then some. I have everything I need for PCT, except HCG which is on it's way. Only thing I didn't plan on was another person doing the cycle with me. He didn't have anything, just what I had so that put a damper on my plans. Plus I already started when he told me he wanted to cycle as well. Oh, and I'm in Iraq, so we haven't got a walgreens that I can pay out the ass at... And it definitely doesn't take a few days to get here either! More so 14-19 days.

Its cool you want to help your friend out...but you shouldn't put yourself in a bad situation doing it.

 

[Crazyfist]

When I was in Iraq it would take up to 4 weeks to get shit sometimes...it sucked trying to plan anything.

 

[kicka19]

shoot me an email. I think I owe you some $

I remember you were a vet when I first got to this board, what was the layoff about if you dont mind?

 

[tryn2getbig]

I have been feeling really lethargic lately, does this have anything to do with the cycle? If so, is there anything to battle it?

 

[Pirate!]

Dbol does that to many people. First time I used it, I started sleeping an extra 2 hours a night. It may improve as your test level builds up.

 

[KungFu]

I have been feeling really lethargic lately, does this have anything to do with the cycle? If so, is there anything to battle it?

That has happened to me in the past I started taking B comples vitamins and regained all my energy back, worked for me.

 

[tryn2getbig]

Alright, I'm at the end of my second week and it seems as though the test has, or is, kicked in... I was in the gym yesterday and I went up 20lbs in one week on my shoulder press... I know it's not much, yet, but I have been struggling to get 135. Last week I got it 3 times and needed help on the last three. This week, I got in there and started out heavier with warm-ups, did more sets with heavier weight and ended at 155 for five, but needed a little guiding for six. I haven't gained much weight yet, but that will come in the weeks to follow. I have legs today and am looking to make another huge gain! I'll follow up that my progress from workout to workout.

 

[tryn2getbig]

Ok... Made even bigger gains today!

Last week:

185 x 5
195 x 5
205 x 5
225 x 5
235 x 5 <-- Stuggled and spoted last rep

This week:

185 x 5
205 x 5
225 x 5
245 x 5
275 x 5 <-- Spotted 4 and 5
285 x 1

Let me ask a question, is this going to happen every workout session? Making gains like this I mean... When I was in the gym, I was just so confident after my first couple sets, that I didn't want to stop! I didn't want to leave at 285 because I think I could have gotten 295 if went one more time, but I wanted to leave something for next week! But every exercise that I did I just did better than EVER before... You know, the M1T cycles I did having nothing in comparance to this!

 

[tryn2getbig]

Got another question, my injections have been done by a friend of mine. He's actually kinda certified as a nurse and is also doing this cycle with me. I have to inject myself my next go around because I will be away for a few days. Can anyone suggest a good place to inject? He was telling me to hit the arm, but it seems kinda akward reaching across the body. Is the leg an easy place to hit that doesn't seem to painful? Pain doesn't really matter, getting over having to inject myself for the first time is a different story. I'm a little nervous doing it on my own. Also, I preloaded my pin but there seems to be a few tiny little bubbles at the top near the needle, is this okay? The whole airbubble in the bloodstream stopping the heart thing is got me a little nervous to. But I don't know how big the bubble has to be to do that though. Sorry for all the questions, but thanks in advance anyway--

 

[Pirate!]

Inject in your delt with a 1" needle. Just hit it straight on in the middle of the medial delt. It's easier than you think. Don't worry about bubbles. Just make sure you are not in a vein.