My Gravity Theory

[soxmuscle]

So I was discussing with a buddy who goes to the same place that I now go to and I was wondering if he thought the weight was considerably heavier at this place than it was back at his school.

He agreed and said he'd notice it even last year when he'd lift at my high school for football compared to when he'd lift at the place we go to now.

His theory and one that made sense since my training days began as well was that places whose weight rooms are on a second or third floor are heavier than weights on the first or lower floors.

Is there any truth to this? and if not, why the hell are the weights so much heavier at this place?

 

[tucker01]

Gravitational pull should be less the further away from the center of the earth.

Realisitcally you wouldn't notice shit.

Are you sure the bars are the same?

 

[MeatZatk]

 

[snoogans]

I always thought the higher up you were, the less gravity had an effect, therefore easier. I don't think 30 or 40 feet will be noticeable for weightlifting. You'd need thousands of feet in differrence to notice anything.

 

[DOMS]

Iain is spot on.

There is a difference, but it's not noticeable by human perception. Heck, time goes slow at higher altitudes (the further you are from Earth). It's been measured with atomic clocks, but, just like the difference in weight, you simply can't detect it with human senses.

 

[soxmuscle]

The bars are nearly identical. Brand new, silver Olympic bars.

It's just strange to me, because I was able to bench 225 for a single on my last workout at school. I got home and didn't get past 200 on the bench my first workout and then on saturday I got 205 of 2 with help.

And it hasn't been like my training has changed or anything. If anything I've been eating healthier and sleeping more and I'm not able to lift as much as I did at school.

I want to bring some of the plates down to the locker room to put them on the scale.. Maybe I'll try and do that today.

Thanks.

 

[NeilPearson]

Iain is spot on.

There is a difference, but it's not noticeable by human perception. Heck, time goes slow at higher altitudes (the further you are from Earth). It's been measured with atomic clocks, but, just like the difference in weight, you simply can't detect it with human senses.

Time isn't slower with distance from the Earth... it is slower as you accelerate but even then it is only slower relative to an observer on Earth

 

[MeatZatk]

It's just strange to me, because I was able to bench 225 for a single on my last workout at school. I got home and didn't get past 200 on the bench my first workout and then on saturday I got 205 of 2 with help.

maybe you just had a good workout. Had you been hitting 225 consistently?

 

[MeatZatk]

at my high school gym, all of our weights were off. We'd have to weigh them, then spray paint the actual poundage on the side. It got tricky when you could only find one 48lb plate.

 

[DOMS]

Time isn't slower with distance from the Earth... it is slower as you accelerate but even then it is only slower relative to an observer on Earth

When I'm jumping from a car going 50 MPH, I prefer to think in nonrelativistic terms...

 

[soxmuscle]

maybe you just had a good workout. Had you been hitting 225 consistently?

I had been hitting 225 consistently. The weights are definitely heavier (meaning either the bar ways considerably more or the weights do).

 

[Brachiisaurus]

I had been hitting 225 consistently. The weights are definitely heavier (meaning either the bar ways considerably more or the weights do).

I know what you are talking about.

I lifted in at my highschool for over 3 years. Then I went to a gym and the weights seemed much heavier.

Although in retrospect, I think it may have been the type of grib on the bar, the bar thickness, and my own hand placement.

Make sure all those are in check and see what happens.

 

[NeilPearson]

When I'm jumping from a car going 50 MPH, I prefer to think in nonrelativistic terms...

That is where your speed relative to the ground actually becomes quite important.

 

[maxpro2]

Weights vary all the time. At my gym, they have the actual weight on the side of every 45lb plate. They vary from 43lb to 48lb sometimes. Also affecting your numbers could be the bar thickness, and the distance of the bench from the floor (affecting leg drive).

Weigh that shit and find out.

 

[P-funk]

Iain, the higher the altitude, the less gravitational pull on an object.

The weight may feel heavier to you because you are lifting in a different environment. Environment is a stimulus much like anything else. if you lift somewhere that you don't always lift, things tend to feel different because the environment is still unfamiliar to you.

 

[Duncans Donuts]

Iain is spot on.

There is a difference, but it's not noticeable by human perception. Heck, time goes slow at higher altitudes (the further you are from Earth). It's been measured with atomic clocks, but, just like the difference in weight, you simply can't detect it with human senses.

Actually, that's assuming there is no aether that permeates everything that exists. I hate relativity , I think it's stupid.

 

[Duncans Donuts]

This will have no real world application in the weight room, of course. Rusting will cause more of an effect than gravity.

 

[DiGiTaL]

I'll see if i can ask my Physics teacher and get his opinion on this.

 

[Duncans Donuts]

It wouldn't be too hard to calculate, I'd say.

 

[fufu]

Iain, the higher the altitude, the less gravitational pull on an object.

The weight may feel heavier to you because you are lifting in a different environment. Environment is a stimulus much like anything else. if you lift somewhere that you don't always lift, things tend to feel different because the environment is still unfamiliar to you.

Yeah, this is true. However, it worked in the opposite for me. When I got my new gym over the fall I added 20 lbs to my back squat for my 3RM from the previous week, and the previous week was very difficult hitting those numbers.

 

[DontStop]

i havent read any of your responses.
All i know is gravitational force is ALWAYS 9.18m/s.
And I also know that depending on the elevation, O2 levels vary. less oxygen, harder for muscles to function.
don't know if that has anything to do with anything but eh

 

[Brachiisaurus]

i havent read any of your responses.
All i know is gravitational force is ALWAYS 9.18m/s.
And I also know that depending on the elevation, O2 levels vary. less oxygen, harder for muscles to function.
don't know if that has anything to do with anything but eh

Actually its not 9.18
its 9.8

 

[DontStop]

close enough

 

[NeilPearson]

i havent read any of your responses.
All i know is gravitational force is ALWAYS 9.18m/s.
And I also know that depending on the elevation, O2 levels vary. less oxygen, harder for muscles to function.
don't know if that has anything to do with anything but eh

Not ALWAYS... just on Earth. Even then it isn't completely the same depending on where you are

 

[DontStop]

i doubt we'd be lifting weights on pluto anytime soon..

 

[Brachiisaurus]

i doubt we'd be lifting weights on pluto anytime soon..

Pluto's not even a planet.

 

[soxmuscle]

Pluto's not even a planet.

She's blonde, cut her some slack.

 

[tucker01]

Hmmm I didn't realize she called Pluto a planet

 

[MeatZatk]

She's blonde, cut her some slack.

not anymore

 

[largepkg]

Hmmm I didn't realize she called Pluto a planet

Well one's a dinosaur and the other is a sox's fan. What do you expect?