Strength Dedication Ambition

[Gazhole]

You just can't win - i sympathise with you over the loss of your hard earned muscle. You must be gutted, and at 168lb, your only 10lb heavier than me .

Thanks a lot , lol.

As you say, you are resourceful and im sure you'll come up with something. There's one thing for sure, you won't be short of suggestions or support - you're one of the most popular guys on this site

Well i dunno about popular, but you're right in that the members here know a thing or six million, haha.

Ive come up with some sort of program that i may give a go. Two upper body workouts, one lower body workout, two fullbody workouts, interspersed with 3 cardio sessions and grip work over 11 days (i took the 11 day split idea off Dale Mabry i think ).

Maybe ill give it a go. Just not in a great mental place today

 

[Gazhole]

You know, you may like it, but when you sit at the end of the bed and cry, it bothers me.

There are real fight clubs. At least in the US. But I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the UK, too.

I expect there are actually, maybe ill ask around

Maybe I missed it, but have you gone to a doctor?

Ive been seeing an Osteopath for the last 3 months, have seen him on about 5 different occaisions. Its helping a lot, its definintely not hurting as much as before. Its just not RIGHT, yknow?

You could just take a month or more off and practice stretching. When you come back, I'm sure you'll be hitting PRs in a week.

Its an option i guess...i just dont think i could handle any more time off, im on the limit as it is. 190 - 168lbs bodyweight is just a terrifying decrease...

 

[Gazhole]

does your back hurt even on high reps (12+) with legs? and does your back hurt when you do upper strength movements? just a thought, but what if you were to try something like in Dale's journal and in one routine, you train half strength, upper body, and the other half higher reps for lower body? unless you get pain in your back no matter what.

I kinda stole some of Dale's setup thismorning actually...its a good idea, perhaps ill do that. Good thinking. Upper Body doesnt generally give me any crap TBH, but lower body still hurts my back when i do most things...

you could always increase your cardio too, instead. but if worse comes to worse Sam has the best advice with just getting healed up before you get back into it.

I thought of adding cardio in a lot more aswell. I should probably post that program i came up with with these modifcations and stuff. I think its basically gonna be lowish volume.

sorry to hear all this Gaz, I've been there not being able to get to the gym when I really wanted to go. don't beat yourself up over it, and hopefully it's not distracting you from your school.

Im trying not to let it, i should probably get back to work in fact, just pissed today and its hard to concentrate when im in a bad mood, lol. Cheers though dude.

oh, and they're not naked...but...

Very nice!

 

[katt]

Sorry Gaz.. losing mass can really fuck up your brain and mental attitude! But, lesson learned on idiot training? It'll come back, probably sooner than you think.

 

[vortrit]

Gah, im really pissed off.

I wanna go to the gym today but i really havent got a clue what to do. I love this EDT training, but its flaring my back up like mad. I havent training legs for about two weeks because after the last time i just couldnt sit down for more than 5 minutes without my lower back subjecting me to fire and brimstone raargh etc.

Total frickin' loss as to what the hell im supposed to be doing right now. This stupid back injury is really getting into my head now. Ive managed to put up with it for a few months now, but its starting to get to me.

I just want to train without problems!

Thing is i LIKE training legs, its awesome, but if i train them and it hurts like fuck afterwards (in the bad way, not the fun DOMS-makes-me-cry way) then i dunno...i dont wanna JUST train upper body because thats obviously not the way to go about things.

Do you think i tried to do too much too fast guys?

I probably did, but fuck...im pissed off with losing this much mass and strength so fast...the only way to get it is to train hard. Thats the only way i know HOW to train, yknow? I dont do things half-assed in the gym.

I wish fight club was real, i could really go for some of that the mood im in at the moment.

No ideas where to go with my training right now dudes n' gals, ideas, advice, and pictures of nude ladies (as always) are welcome and very much encouraged at this stage before i go rather mental.

I know what you mean. Just taking last week off I was about to go crazy. I'd definitely cut down on the volume and see how that goes but that's just me. You don't want to be in pain all the time. It's better to lose some mass.

Before you know it you'll be doing balls out workouts (in your balls out jeans).

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[DOMS]

I expect there are actually, maybe ill ask around

I did a search on Google for "london fight club" and do you know what I got? I got the "London Pillow Fight Club"! I really, really hope that it involves hot chicks in pajamas.

Ive been seeing an Osteopath for the last 3 months, have seen him on about 5 different occaisions. Its helping a lot, its definintely not hurting as much as before. Its just not RIGHT, yknow?

What is the exact ailment?

Its an option i guess...i just dont think i could handle any more time off, im on the limit as it is. 190 - 168lbs bodyweight is just a terrifying decrease...

I know this must sound trite, but you've gotta do what you've gotta do to stay healthy.

 

[Witchblade]

You gave most of the answers yourself: stop doing anything that hurts, even if it involves skipping on most of your leg work-outs.

Go to an ART specialist. A good one.

Can you sprint?

Can you bench press?

Can you do dumbell rows?

Planks?

 

[Gazhole]

Sorry Gaz.. losing mass can really fuck up your brain and mental attitude! But, lesson learned on idiot training? It'll come back, probably sooner than you think.

Heres hoping

 

[Gazhole]

I know what you mean. Just taking last week off I was about to go crazy. I'd definitely cut down on the volume and see how that goes but that's just me. You don't want to be in pain all the time. It's better to lose some mass.

Before you know it you'll be doing balls out workouts (in your balls out jeans).

YouTube Video

Thats possibly the strangest sketch i have ever seen...

I gotta get me a pair of those.

 

[Gazhole]

I did a search on Google for "london fight club" and do you know what I got? I got the "London Pillow Fight Club"! I really, really hope that it involves hot chicks in pajamas.

Me too...i dont like the thought of the same situation involving sweaty UFC fighters...just doesnt seem right. Tito Ortiz in pink pajamas etc...

What is the exact ailment?

A sacro (sarco?) iliac strain. Basically a pull up the right side of my body. Or rather, that was the problem before. Now the pull isnt hurting cos it was totally up the right side of my back into my shoulder...now its just my lower back.

I know this must sound trite, but you've gotta do what you've gotta do to stay healthy.

I know, i know. It shouldnt even be an issue of what i "want" to do. And dont worry about triteness, i prefer it when people say what they mean.

 

[Gazhole]

You gave most of the answers yourself: stop doing anything that hurts, even if it involves skipping on most of your leg work-outs.

This is obviously a good option since some training is better than no training. I just dont want to CREATE more imbalances than i fix by leaving legs out. Perhaps doing less volume and intensity on the lower body than upper...

Go to an ART specialist. A good one.

ART?

Can you sprint?

Not if i want to keep my knees their correct size. Whenever i run i get lots of swelling and bruising in my knees, Dad has the same thing so im thinking its hereditry. Its why i stopped running in the first place, a few years ago i was pretty good at long distance.

Can you bench press?

Like a mofo.

Can you do dumbell rows?

Like a posterior chaining mofo.

Planks?

Yeah, i can do core stuff without much problem. Crunches hurt after a while though, the reverse versions not so much.

 

[vortrit]

I gotta get me a pair of those.

You are not the only one.

 

[Gazhole]

You are not the only one.

Do you think they market a cut-off version for the summer?

 

[vortrit]

Do you think they market a cut-off version for the summer?

Yes, there is a cut-off version and a overalls version just for sheep fuckers.

 

[Witchblade]

ART: active release therapy (massage variant).

You could train upper body only for a while. Your legs will grow or at least stay the same size too (body's homeostasis finally working to your advantage eh?). The only dangerous zone is your core. Don't make your hip flexors or your rectus abdominis too powerful. Do as much leg training as possible without agonizing yourself and focus on your lower body and your core when you're fully healed again.

There's a risk, but it's not that big if you do things correctly.

 

[Gazhole]

Yes, there is a cut-off version and a overalls version just for sheep fuckers.

Maybe theyll endorse my DVD...

 

[vortrit]

Maybe theyll endorse my DVD...

lol. A free pair with the first 100 DVD's sold. Act now and get a free bucket to stand on.

 

[Gazhole]

ART: active release therapy (massage variant).

Do'h, i knew that, lol. Thanks

You could train upper body only for a while. Your legs will grow or at least stay the same size too (body's homeostasis finally working to your advantage eh?). The only dangerous zone is your core. Don't make your hip flexors or your rectus abdominis too powerful. Do as much leg training as possible without agonizing yourself and focus on your lower body and your core when you're fully healed again.

There's a risk, but it's not that big if you do things correctly.

What i may do then, is keep doing this EDT training for my upper body, but stick with some low volume weight training for my legs (2x20 on two lifts - RDLs, Squats ) and do cardio a lil more.

I dont really do that much core work to be honest, just 2 sets of planks, and two sets of something else 3x a week.

I dont see what else i can do really. If i dont train im gonna regret it, and as much as i love leg training and how much im OCD about program balance, thisll have to do untill im recovered.

Thanks for that WB

And indeed thanks to everybody who posts in here, you guys are awesome. Strange having friends ive never actually met, but meh

 

[Gazhole]

lol. A free pair with the first 100 DVD's sold. Act now and get a free bucket to stand on.

An autographed bucket, heathen.

 

[the other half]

lol. A free pair with the first 100 DVD's sold. Act now and get a free bucket to stand on.

so what are the chances that this is how you hurt your back to begin with

sorry to hear about the pain. but you are young and if you fuck your back up for good, thats going to make for a long and painful life.

definitely get a pair of those pants and go to the fight club, no one will want to fight you then.

 

[Gazhole]

so what are the chances that this is how you hurt your back to begin with

sorry to hear about the pain. but you are young and if you fuck your back up for good, thats going to make for a long and painful life.

definitely get a pair of those pants and go to the fight club, no one will want to fight you then.

its a possibility. Our wooly friends sometimes need pinning down.

Wise words though, my Dad has had back pain for as long as he can remember so i know the trouble he gets with it.

Hows things with you anyways?

 

[the other half]

things are always good in my life,(got katt to thank for that) hunting alot now, not as much gym time, but will start hitting it hard in december

 

[Gazhole]

things are always good in my life,(got katt to thank for that) hunting alot now, not as much gym time, but will start hitting it hard in december

good stuff!

What kind of hunting?

 

[the other half]

finished hunting elk at the beginning of november, now just hunting for deer till the end of the month

 

[Raoul]

Wow, finally finished the whole thing. Cracking read.

Sorry to hear about your injury flare-up man, hopefully if you take it a little bit easier you can still make progress, even if its not at the usual Gaz-like intensity

 

[goob]

Hey Gaz, I know it must grate have gone from 190 - 168, but think on the bright side, you;ll be super -ripped. The chicks will love it.

Every Cloud...

 

[goob]

Hey Gaz, I know it must grate have gone from 190 - 168, but think on the bright side, you;ll be super -ripped. The Sheep will love it.

Every Cloud....

My bad. Almost forgot...


BTW, sorry to hear about you're back, I was loving those utterly crazy workouts.....

 

[Gazhole]

Wow, finally finished the whole thing. Cracking read.

Sorry to hear about your injury flare-up man, hopefully if you take it a little bit easier you can still make progress, even if its not at the usual Gaz-like intensity

Lol, welcome to IM. Couldnt ask for a better first post than in me journal though

You read the whole thing? Kudos.

 

[Gazhole]

Hey Gaz, I know it must grate have gone from 190 - 168, but think on the bright side, you;ll be super -ripped. The chicks will love it.

Every Cloud...

Well im MORE ripped than before, but i wouldnt say im super ripped, haha. This missus is loving it though, god bless her

 

[Gazhole]

My bad. Almost forgot...


BTW, sorry to hear about you're back, I was loving those utterly crazy workouts.....

Hey, no worries, lol.

Youll be pleased to know the crazy upper body workouts will be remaining. Lower Body will be boring as piss for a while.

At least ill go the half-gaz.