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Ephedrine + Aspirin + Caffeine

for the person who said it is readily available in Canada , that may be true , but it is not legal no store can have a record of sale or purchase, the product can only be bought under the counter and with cash.........however a lower does of ephedrine used a decongestant is available in 8mg tablets , the weight loss pills if i a m not mistaken use somewhere around 300 - 400 mg of Ma Huang
 
for the person who said it is readily available in Canada , that may be true , but it is not legal no store can have a record of sale or purchase, the product can only be bought under the counter and with cash.........however a lower does of ephedrine used a decongestant is available in 8mg tablets , the weight loss pills if i a m not mistaken use somewhere around 300 - 400 mg of Ma Huang

That's actually not true. It is and has always been legal to sell ephedrine HCL in Canada.

Allow me to introduce Health Canada's Drug Product Search engine.

The DIN for ephedrine HCL, 8mg made by Kaizen, a US company out of LA, is 02236722.

Kindly enter that DIN into the database. You will see the status is listed as "active". This is an OTC medication that is legal to be sold as a decongestant. It may NOT be sold as an energy or diet aid.

The highest dose that may be sold in Canada is 8mg, and it is definitely over the counter. I purchase it regularly at Popeye's, and it's right out on the shelf.

The herb Ma Huang is often standardized to contain 8mg of the active per 100mg of the herb - so 300mg Ma Huang would contain the equivalent of 24mg ephedrine HCL, the typical amount in the standard "stack" of 200mg caffeine with 25mg ephedrine (ASA optional).
 
no i believe that and i know that 8mg tablets are legal and sold over the counter, i mean the old pills, which are now under the counter with more then that per tablet , and i do know the Ma Huang being standardized to about 8% ephedrine, i do apologize for my post for before, in my head it sounded ok but i did re read it and saw i was not very clear .....my apologies
 
Ah - no worries.

Ephedrine HCL - even in the 8mg tablets - CAN be hard to find. Supplement stores sell it, but the drugstores don't. So odd.

Quite honestly, I'd just as soon they came in the smaller doses. It's easier to titrate your dose - something that's very helpful when you decide to go "off": drop from 24mg in your stack 3x a day, to 16mg (leave the caffeine in), then 8mg (still with the caffeine), then just caffeine, then drop the caffeine down to 2x a day, then off.

Or stay on the caffeine all year, like I do.

Hi!
 
one day i will learn to explain myself

me i take an ECA stack that is 350 mg Ma Huang , 350 mg kola nut and 25 mg white willow bark , now when i come off of this it is a bitch i can only do it in 28mg ephedrine jumps so for my relief phase i buy a bottle of 8 mg from hercs

now i do have a question i know the stack is generally 1:10:10 now im not to worried about the aspirin content 25 mg is fine by me , but with the ephedrine to caffeine ratio being 1:1(well close to it) i was wondering if i should up the caffeine ratio and what would be a good way , like just drink a coffee or something or get a caffeine pill
 
Personally, I prefer to avoid herbals and pre-mixed formulations where at all possible. Not only is the chemical stuff cheaper, it's easier to tailor and titrate your doses from the individual components. Plus, with the non-herbal stuff, you know EXACTLY what you're getting.

The usual ephedrine:caffeine stack is 20mg ephedrine to 200mg caffeine, or 1:10.

A small cup of coffee is what, about a hundred mg of caffeine? If you're taking it with 8mg of ephedrine, that should "feel" about right.
 
well i usually use a chemical stuff and mix it out myself , but i got this bottle from a friend of mine who couldn't stay dedicated to it. so he just gave it to me

each pill is 28mg E
35mg C it uses kola nut as a caffeine replacement 10% standardized , now i want to finish this bottle off cause i figure why not its there + plus its almost exactly finishes at the time i take a break from it. after this i will go back to my old formula which was 1:10

so just buy a large coffee and i will be fine?
 
Coffee if you like it, or caffeine tablets otherwise.

Personally, I hate the smell of coffee so I just take pills.

What brand is it?
 
therma cutts by scientifik athletika

and ya i do like coffee so thats not a problem
 
I am new this site and am looking for some help. I'm 28 just under 5 '2'. my weight is down to 112 with 12% bf. I've decided to compete in figure in april/may. I go to a small gym and the trainers aren't really experienced with training for competition. My trainer is an old wrestling coach and only a hand full of people from the gym have ever competed. None of whom would be any help to me. I can rely on my trainer to help develop my body and I do my own nutrition.

I do 3 low days of 1300 with a 50p/25c/25f with 1 high day 1800 30p/50c/20f. I carb and calorie taper on low days.

I started taking ECA a few weeks before xmas and decided this was want I wanted to stick with through my training. I relaxed through the end of dec and early jan and started back on my nutrition cycle and the ECA stack jan 10th.

I feel like I am missing out on proper supplementing. Should I be taking Creatine? HMB? a pump product?

Also is ECA my best coice? I've been reading a lot about Clen or Cytomel.

If you wouldn't mind giving me your opinion or any advice I would really appreciate it.
 
Ok so here goes my first noob question in a while.. Everyone on an ECA stack right now, where do you get the E?!? All I find is cold medicine of stuff. Packed with extra crap..
 
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Ok so here goes my first noob question in a while.. Everyone on an ECA stack right now, where do you get the E?!? All I find is cold medicine of stuff. Packed with extra crap..



if you live close to canada you can cross the border and go to a training supplement store such as GNC or HERC's and buy Ephedrine in 8mg tablets or find a reliable site to order from

to byrker12 (sorry if spelt wrong) i do not know to much about the clen or cyotest so i cant be much help , but i do use the eca stack and se results through any stage of the year , i just change dosages depending on whether im bulking or cutting
 
Ok.. I live in NJ and EPHEDRINE IS LEGAL in the USA. Why the f can't I find it anywhere without extra shit attached!!! Anyone have a reliable online source?
 
it is banned as a weight loss supplement, but can be found in the form ephedrine HCL
 
it is banned as a weight loss supplement, but can be found in the form ephedrine HCL

Soo.. Are you trying to tell me its impossible to get???
 
No, he's telling you that you'll have to purchase it as pure ephedrine HCL and make your own weight loss supp out of it. Same way bodybuilders have been doing it for years. ;)
 
thing is you didnt take ten doses, and you werent hugely out of shape, (or wearing thirty pounds of pads in 100+ degree weather with crazy humidity) which are the killers

Nah I played football bro.
But I think I was off of it during what I think was one of the hottest days I've ever been outside. I really can't describe how hot it was on the field and i really just kinda was in more awe than pain the whole day. I lost 12 pounds in one practice. We had a lineman that lost 24. Later after practice he was in the food line in the cafeteria and suddenly you heard, "arhhh....." then a cling clang clang....He had a whole body sieze/cramp and dropped his tray and dishes. Went to the hospital and got an IV f electrolytes and came back a few hours later. IV's are awersome! Nothing like em. :thumb:

Like I said...Glad I'm not a stat.
 
No, he's telling you that you'll have to purchase it as pure ephedrine HCL and make your own weight loss supp out of it. Same way bodybuilders have been doing it for years. ;)

well, if i could get my hands on a legit site to get say, 10 mg pure ephedrine HCL, great, but so far the onlyplace i have found is that bs spam snd nutrition, (the snd canada ripoff site)... so yeah..

totally not looking forward to taking cold medicine all the time and working my way up a DEA watchlist as a meth mixer.. :wtf: lol
 
ohhhhhh, and a quick phone call to Kaizen "we havent mfg'd ephedrine HCL in about 4 years" now idk if its bs or legit, but he said it was due to "outside pressure"..
 
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