Michael Jackson memorial

[T_man]

Funny you call him stupid for not falling under the Spell of the King of "POP", a form of music geared towards the mindless masses; so he was the greatest pied-piper for the rat race.... if we recall the piper also seduced the towns children to a cave... To be fair where was the lottery to attend Ray Charles' funeral, the weeks long mourning, the hours long Memorial on the big networks? To me Ray Charles did way more for music than MJ did, hell if it wasn't for his achievements in rendering a soulful sound MJ may have been singing and dancing to something entirely different..... Not to mention Ray overcame the physical challenge of being blind and still went on to become a true musical genius.....His music was so beautiful that one song became an official state song and another set a precedent for an American Anthem, a version that even Presidents could be proud of.....he also made a huge accomplishment by melding Country with R&B Soul, music white folks could also groove to this was before Jackson was even able to coo his first sound......

Tell me he didn't change the world, being dubbed "king of pop"

lol @ mindless masses. why do you think just because most people like him he cant be good??? i really want to know the thinking behind this mindless masses logic

See that Ray Charles comment is your OPINION just the way most people's opinions fall that MJ was the greatest entertainer. Don't hate just because you're in the minority

 

[T_man]

I don't hate the guy, he was really weird and out there, but I liked his music. I just don't understand the swooning over him and, as NeilPearson said, nothing changed the day he died except the fact that he is dead. All the weird behavior, the pedophile charges, the skin bleaching or what have you still stands...so why are people crying over him? How did wacko jacko turn into a god all of a sudden? Its actually kind of sickening really, demonized in life and idolized in death. Once again I will state my point, he did not change shit, he made himself and others very rich and made a bunch of teenagers wet along the way. The world is not different. Where are the weekend long radio tributes and million people strong memorials for Einstein?

What weird behaviour?? being childish??
What paedophile charges? you mean the ones that were dropped?
Skin bleaching, as in his skin disorder that he had his skin bleached for to get it over with??

Why do you mourn people close to you and look past their negatives but you cant just cut this guy some slack?

If you do not think he changed the world, then I don't think many other people have. Name me one person who has evidently done alot of good for people in a way you can rationalise.

 

[Keylan]

Really? Who cares? I hated that pedophile and his music at his height of popularity. All he did was dance around and grab his crotch. Since then he has just made a mockery of his life. His kids are better off now. I couldn't imagine being raised by him. He wasn't even human anymore.

I'm glad the world has been cleansed. Rot in hell Micheal.

Hmmm, not sure how much you know about the entertainment business but no matter how you feel about MJ's music, his obvious eccentricities, or him as a person the FACT is anytime you see a music video where the singer(s) are acting out a story as opposed to just standing there performing their song you must give it to the king of pop. Anytime you see the singers doing organized choreography you gotta thank Michael Jackson.
Today almost all recording artists are using his music video format from Janet to Justin, from Britney to Christina, from Usher to Omarion. If you think of the video for "The Way You Make Me Feel" and "Kiss" From the purple rain album you can see it. And That is why MJ will never be forgotten.

 

[Arnold]

Hmmm, not sure how much you know about the entertainment business but no matter how you feel about MJ's music, his obvious eccentricities, or him as a person the FACT is anytime you see a music video where the singer(s) are acting out a story as opposed to just standing there performing their song you must give it to the king of pop. Anytime you see the singers doing organized choreography you gotta thank Michael Jackson.
Today almost all recording artists are using his music video format from Janet to Justin, from Britney to Christina, from Usher to Omarion. If you think of the video for "The Way You Make Me Feel" and "Kiss" From the purple rain album you can see it. And That is why MJ will never be forgotten.

I agree with you on all points, EXCEPT don't try and tell me that Prince copied MJ in anyway, he did not.

 

[maxpro2]

Funny you call him stupid for not falling under the Spell of the King of "POP"

No I called him stupid for his Einstein reference. It was stupid. I could care less about MJ and was in fact more sad when Billy Mays died

 

[busyLivin]

I could care less

why do so many people get that wrong?

 

[min0 lee]

Sheesh, I said the same things while being gang banged by T-Man and Chobby, thanks guys......it was horrible.

 

[Yanick]

Albert Einstein Biography "The death of Albert Einstein came on April 18, 1955 in Princeton, New Jersey. After a long illness, he died peacefully in his sleep. The listed cause of death is a ruptured artery in his heart. Upon his request in his will, there was no funeral, no grave, and no marker. His brain was donated to science and his body was cremated and his ashes were spread over a near-by river."

Not to mention Einstein didn't just die. What a stupid example to pick, lolol. Oh and I'm sure Einstein didn't have radio tributes as he didn't cut any albums. If you wanted to look smart, you would have picked a different example. Stupid.

WTF? Dude who the fuck are you and why are you even talking to me?

What the fuck was your point? Albert Einstein was, arguably, the greatest genius to have ever lived. He actually changed the world. Every patient that goes through a PET Scan can thank Einstein for his work because without him who knows how long it would take to reveal the truths about our universe. His contributions to the world are immeasurable. And they reached beyond making your little pecker hard when you were a wee little teen watching MJ grab his cock on National Television.

Who cares how the guy died? I care about how the guy lived and MJ didn't do shit. Music videos are gay, MTV is retarded and Pop Culture is going to be the downfall of modern fucking society. My point was people deify the stupidest, weirdest, snobbiest fucking people as long as they have big tits, or a decent voice or can dance. Where are the crying people remembering the contributions of Joseph Lister, whose work has affected each and every person that reads this thread. Hell, fuck crying and weekend long memorials. I'd be happy if half the people on the street could even say who Joseph Lister was, or explain, at the most fundamental level, what e=mc^2 means. Those same people will rattle off MJ's discography, his favorite color, his cock size, what diseases he had, which side of the bed he sleeps on and so forth.

 

[Yanick]

Sheesh, I said the same things while being gang banged by T-Man and Chobby, thanks guys......it was horrible.

I would've had your back but I wasn't around and by the time I got back, the thread was closed.

 

[Yanick]

What weird behaviour?? being childish??
What paedophile charges? you mean the ones that were dropped?
Skin bleaching, as in his skin disorder that he had his skin bleached for to get it over with??

I don't care enough about pop culture so I can argue the in's and out's of MJ's life. I just know that Wacko Jacko was his name till the day he died. Then all of a sudden he became a god who changed the world.

Why do you mourn people close to you and look past their negatives but you cant just cut this guy some slack?

I mourn them because they changed my life. My grandmother died and I cried because she raised me. She taught me the meaning of hard work, she hopped around on one leg (which she lost during WW II) cleaning the house, raising her grand kids, making dinner etc. She was a big reason for convincing my family to leave the shithole that was/is the former USSR. She wasn't perfect but she changed my life, without her I don't know where I or my family would be. If MJ didn't exist, I would have never heard Thriller or knew what a moon walk was. Not exactly something for me to cry about.

If you do not think he changed the world, then I don't think many other people have. Name me one person who has evidently done alot of good for people in a way you can rationalise.

So how has MJ made this world so fucking great? How has he changed your life? Or put it this way, if MJ never lived how would your life be any different than it is today? Now take those questions and apply them to some of the people I've named in this and previous threads...You will understand my point

I will say this though, for the last time. I don't like/dislike the guy. I couldn't care less about him. Good music, weird life, don't fucking care. Just as I don't really care about any pop culture icons life. I don't fucking care about britney spears new hair cut/marriage/divorce/child etc. My life is not any better or worse with or without these fucking people. I just don't understand the swooning is all. There are much more important matters at hand than the death of some weirdo but people around here, thats all they could talk about, some people took time off of work to watch the shit, people cried. Jesus christ!

 

[lola1182]

the memorial was so sad.. watching paris getting up there to speak was heartbreaking.

 

[NeilPearson]

Tell me he didn't change the world, being dubbed "king of pop"

lol @ mindless masses. why do you think just because most people like him he cant be good??? i really want to know the thinking behind this mindless masses logic

See that Ray Charles comment is your OPINION just the way most people's opinions fall that MJ was the greatest entertainer. Don't hate just because you're in the minority

I don't know what it is like in England but in North America, I don't think most people like him. In fact, I don't think I know many people that would admit to liking him. He had a few years in the 80s where he was way overrated for a couple albums but then pretty much fell off into obsurity.

I don't know anyone that listened to Micheal Jackson after 1990

I just looked up his albums.

1982 Thriller - this was incredibly sucessful but then he didn't do anything until 1987 when he released Bad.... come on 5 years to follow up a success like that. Bad sold only a third of what Thriller did

Then 4 more years for Dangerous in 1991 which I don't know a single song off of. Dangerous did about as good as Bad

Then 4 more years for HIStory in 1995... He apparantly had some new songs on this but it was mostly just a greatest hits album. HIStory sold less than a fifth of what Thriller did.

Then nothing for 6 years when he released Invincible in 2001. This sold less than a 10th of what Thriller did.

Since then he hasn't done squat... good thing too. Every album that he released since Thriller did worse and worse.

This is hardly a record worthy of the title "King of Pop"

He was a one album wonder. They gave him the "King of Pop" title during Thriller and he has been a huge let down ever since.

Most overrated performer ever. I could think up at least a dozen performers more worthy of that title.

 

[NeilPearson]

What weird behaviour?? being childish??
What paedophile charges? you mean the ones that were dropped?
Skin bleaching, as in his skin disorder that he had his skin bleached for to get it over with??

Why do you mourn people close to you and look past their negatives but you cant just cut this guy some slack?

If you do not think he changed the world, then I don't think many other people have. Name me one person who has evidently done alot of good for people in a way you can rationalise.

I don't think he changed shit...

 

[maniclion]

Hmmm, not sure how much you know about the entertainment business but no matter how you feel about MJ's music, his obvious eccentricities, or him as a person the FACT is anytime you see a music video where the singer(s) are acting out a story as opposed to just standing there performing their song you must give it to the king of pop. Anytime you see the singers doing organized choreography you gotta thank Michael Jackson.
.

You mean the Who's Tommy or Pink Floyd's The Wall couldn't have influenced the Almighty King of Pop? All the Opera's and Ballets get no credit for acting out stories to music nor choreography?

 

[min0 lee]

Giraldo is a bit of a nut job but he's right about this.

Geraldo calls out "99 percent" of celebs at MJ's memorial as fair-weather friends

Did you hear Geraldo Rivera on Fox's memorial coverage? Unlike other network talking heads, he wasn't gushing over the celebs in attendance:
"The vast majority of the people in that hall," Geraldo said, "and certainly ninety nine percent of the celebrities who have come to this memorial did not stand anywhere near Michael Jackson during the years he was accused of those horrible crimes, and they didn't say, 'We believe him innocent, they didn't say let the case go where it may, let the facts prove innocence or guilt.' They just disappeared, and now they have resurfaced to celebrate his life.
"That is entirely fitting I'm sure," Geraldo said, "but I personally can't get over the memory of 2005. When Michael Jackson stood essentially alone and accused and convicted in the minds of many of the most perverse crime."

 

[Jarhed]

Giraldo is a bit of a nut job but he's right about this.

Geraldo calls out "99 percent" of celebs at MJ's memorial as fair-weather friends

Did you hear Geraldo Rivera on Fox's memorial coverage? Unlike other network talking heads, he wasn't gushing over the celebs in attendance:
"The vast majority of the people in that hall," Geraldo said, "and certainly ninety nine percent of the celebrities who have come to this memorial did not stand anywhere near Michael Jackson during the years he was accused of those horrible crimes, and they didn't say, 'We believe him innocent, they didn't say let the case go where it may, let the facts prove innocence or guilt.' They just disappeared, and now they have resurfaced to celebrate his life.
"That is entirely fitting I'm sure," Geraldo said, "but I personally can't get over the memory of 2005. When Michael Jackson stood essentially alone and accused and convicted in the minds of many of the most perverse crime."

I concur...

 

[min0 lee]

Michael Jackson -- #7
Posted Jul 7th 2009 4:10PM by TMZ Staff
Get ready to have your mind blown. Ready? Here we go ...

-- Michael Jackson signed his will on 7/7/02.
-- Michael Jackson's memorial was on 7/7/09 ... exactly 7 years after the will was signed.
-- Michael Jackson's two biggest hits -- "Black & White" and "Billie Jean" -- were each #1 for 7 weeks.
-- Michael Jackson's three biggest albums -- "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" -- each produced 7 top 40 hits.
-- Michael Jackson was the 7th of 9 children.
-- Michael Jackson was born in 1958 ... 19 + 58 = 77
-- Michael Jackson died on the 25th ... 2 + 5 = 7
-- Michael Jackson has 7 letters in his first and last name.


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[Jarhed]

Michael Jackson -- #7
Posted Jul 7th 2009 4:10PM by TMZ Staff
Get ready to have your mind blown. Ready? Here we go ...

-- Michael Jackson signed his will on 7/7/02.
-- Michael Jackson's memorial was on 7/7/09 ... exactly 7 years after the will was signed.
-- Michael Jackson's two biggest hits -- "Black & White" and "Billie Jean" -- were each #1 for 7 weeks.
-- Michael Jackson's three biggest albums -- "Thriller," "Bad" and "Dangerous" -- each produced 7 top 40 hits.
-- Michael Jackson was the 7th of 9 children.
-- Michael Jackson was born in 1958 ... 19 + 58 = 77
-- Michael Jackson died on the 25th ... 2 + 5 = 7
-- Michael Jackson has 7 letters in his first and last name.


If you're looking for lottery numbers tonight, we recommend something with the number 7 in it.

 

[min0 lee]

The sheep see him as this now.....

 

[maniclion]

Tell me he didn't change the world, being dubbed "king of pop"
He didn't change the world.....
lol @ mindless masses. why do you think just because most people like him he cant be good??? i really want to know the thinking behind this mindless masses logic
If I have to explain mindless masses to you then you are lost in the afterglow
See that Ray Charles comment is your OPINION just the way most people's opinions fall that MJ was the greatest entertainer. Don't hate just because you're in the minority ....At least I have an opinion and don't let the majority decide for me....

This reminds me of when the Pope died, people were suddenly Catholic for a week because it was the "IN" thing of the moment, I don't know if it's some kind of need to belong or fear of being an outcast but too many people get sucked up into these momentary trends, the entertainment industry, including the media, yes most of them fall under entertainment, have done such an awesome job of figuring out how to manipulate hordes of the zombified somnambulant populous that it scares me.......

I guess it just how I think but I don't get how people can idolize another fellow man, I am a huge fan of Jim Morrison's poetry and music, even how he lived, but I wouldn't say I think he changed the world, nor that he did great things for humanity, I know he was just an artist who's work meshed with my own ideas and who valued similar things as I do, I don't think he was super human.....

 

[min0 lee]

This reminds me of when the Pope died, people were suddenly Catholic for a week because it was the "IN" thing of the moment, .

So true.

 

[NeilPearson]

You mean the Who's Tommy or Pink Floyd's The Wall couldn't have influenced the Almighty King of Pop? All the Opera's and Ballets get no credit for acting out stories to music nor choreography?

Nope it was all MJ and it was completely original

 

[maniclion]

I concur...

I just saw Citizen Kane again the other night...........good movie but I can never figure out what makes it one of the top movies of all time besides it's technical achievments, I think the acting is alright, the story get's boring especially toward the end.....but as far as visuals go I could watch it with the sound muted and still sense what emotion is being provoked......

 

[min0 lee]

Oh, oh......a new scandalous book about him.

Is it too soon?

King of Pop was gay, dressed like woman, claims book: 'Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson'
King of Pop was gay, dressed like woman, claims book: 'Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson'



Michael Jackson was into men, not boys - and masqueraded as a woman with his lovers, a new book claims.
That's the most sensational nugget in "Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson," a tell-all by celebrity biographer Ian Halperin obtained by In Touch magazine.

"Michael would dress up as a woman," Halperin wrote of the trysts.
He said the star once picked up a construction worker in Las Vegas and swore him to secrecy.
"The lover admitted Michael made him sign a confidentiality agreement," the book states.

Halperin's book, which hits stores as the world still reels from Jackson's death, asserts that ex-wife Lisa Marie Presley and galpals like Brooke Shields and Tatum O'Neal were his beards.

Jackson never had sex with second wife Debbie Rowe, so "none of Jackson's three kids are his biological children," an "insider" told the author.
Halperin also contends that Jackson is no pedophile and may be a blackmail victim. He claims to have documents proving Jackson's nervous insurance company forced him to pay millions to a teen who accused the singer of molesting him.

Jackson "collapsed in hysterics when he found out he had to do that," the "insider" told Halperin.

King of Pop was gay, dressed like woman, claims book: 'Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson'

 

[Arnold]

Jackson never had sex with second wife Debbie Rowe, so "none of Jackson's three kids are his biological children," an "insider" told the author.

I agree that they were not his children because they were very white, however you don't have to have sex, there is something called artificial insemination.

This asshole is just trying to capitalize off of MJ's death, pathetic.

 

[Jarhed]

Now there's footage showing MJ's ghost in his old "Neverland" home....OH PLEASE!!!!

YouTube Video

 

[Jarhed]

WAIT!!!!! It has been explained.

YouTube Video

 

[T_man]

Let me just ask you this.
If you were close to a relative, but then they became distant for any reason. When they died, and you went to mourn their loss, how would you react if people started accusing you of coming there and not even being close. How would you feel if there were people there condemning him for every bad thing he did (and we all do bad stuff so don't bs).

My $0.02 have a good day

 

[Arnold]

Let me just ask you this.
If you were close to a relative, but then they became distant for any reason. When they died, and you went to mourn their loss, how would you react if people started accusing you of coming there and not even being close. How would you feel if there were people there condemning him for every bad thing he did (and we all do bad stuff so don't bs).

My $0.02 have a good day

I don't know who you're asking, nor do I understand the point of the question?

 

[Yanick]

Let me just ask you this.
If you were close to a relative, but then they became distant for any reason. When they died, and you went to mourn their loss, how would you react if people started accusing you of coming there and not even being close. How would you feel if there were people there condemning him for every bad thing he did (and we all do bad stuff so don't bs).

My $0.02 have a good day

I'll assume this was in response to me. There are fundamental flaws in your attempt at analogy.

MJ was not mine, nor was he your relative. You did not know the guy, he never spoke a single syllable to or about you. He has not affected your life besides being a bit of entertainment. Why you, or others, feel so personally offended is beyond me and that was my point to begin with.

I'm not condemning him for anything. I could care less about him or any other pop culture icon's personal life. Let them do whatever they want to do. Their job is to provide some entertainment...Its not exactly earth shattering stuff they are doing. I just hate the swooning and deification of these people when there are true heroes out there busting their asses everyday, the teachers, doctors, nurses, cops, firefighters, scientists, engineers. These people effect real change in the world on a daily basis, they pass everyday just like MJ did. They die in tragic accidents, where's the swooning and memorials for them? And as I've said before, screw swooning and memorials. I'd like people to have a fraction of the knowledge about Einstein or Lister as they have about MJ's life or Britney's new hair cut. Pop culture will be the downfall of modern society.