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This whole is issue is just a media story.

The President should not comment on a police-citizens dispute, in the first place.

And then the mainstream media - always in search of ratings fed by drama and controversy reports on this non-story story.


It's a waste of time.
 
This whole is issue is just a media story.

The President should not comment on a police-citizens dispute, in the first place.

And then the mainstream media - always in search of ratings fed by drama and controversy reports on this non-story story.


It's a waste of time.

yeah well if the prez didn't comment it would have just been another harassment case and gates would probably be in jail without a voice and no one would have been the wiser or cared. look at rodney king from years ago. he was no angel but let's face it, those cops went ballistic on his a** And walked until folks rioted. you can't tell me that was the only or first time that happened and i know gates isn't the first or only one this has happened to either.

Ok, you hear the 911 caller say something to the effect of "he looks like he could be hispanic". excuse me please hermanos y hermanas but is that cameron diaz/christina aguilera hispanic or jewish sammy davis jr./tatyana ali hispanic? to hear that most people assume the caller would mean anything from J.Lo to david ortiz. that includes me but im not hispanic. nor is halle berry to my knowledge. therefore if snoop dogg and jackie chan were walking down the street at that time and a tool of a cop went by what would happen? would that be the same outcome as with charlie sheen and freddie prince jr.?

this whole thing is so dumb. i don't think obama's apology is necessary. maybe they should add a shot of quarvo gold and a plate of nachos when they enjoy their beers.
 
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if the prez didn't comment it would have just been another harassment case and gates would probably be in jail without a voice and no one would have been the wiser or cared. look at rodney king from years ago. he was no angel but let's face it, those cops went ballistic on his a** And walked until folks rioted. you can't tell me that was the only or first time that happened and i know gates isn't the first or only one this has happened to either.
Ok, you hear the 911 caller say something to the effect of "he looks like he could be hispanic". excuse me please hermanos y hermanas but is that christina aguilera hispanic or sammy davis jr. hispanic? to hear that most people assume the caller would mean anything from J.Lo to david ortiz. that includes me but im not hispanic. nor is halle berry to my knowledge. therefore if i was walking down the street with jackie chan at that time and a tool of a cop went by what would happen? would that be the same outcome as charlie sheen and freddie prince jr.?
this whole thing is so dumb. i don't think obama's apology is necessary. maybe they should add a shot of quarvo gold when they enjoy their beers.
The President can't fix every single problem in this country, that has to be handled by someone else.
He's already stretching himself out too thin, although racism is an issue in this world he and everyone else must realize we did elect a Black president...so we must have made some sort of progress.

Obama should have just kept his mouth shut till after the investigation was done. It now looks like he's the the Black man's back no matter what and for those who are bias this just makes it worse now.
Ignorant folks will start saying he only cares about "his people".

Obama himself realized he made a mistake so he has apologized which I can respect. He knows he was wrong.

Keylan, his charges being dropped by the police had nothing to do with what Obama said.
 
rodney king from years ago. he was no angel but let's face it, those cops went ballistic on his a** And walked until folks rioted.

That moment brought out the worst in both the police and Black Americans.
 
The President can't fix every single problem in this country, that has to be handled by someone else.
He's already stretching himself out too thin, although racism is an issue in this world he and everyone else must realize we did elect a Black president...so we must have made some sort of progress.

Obama should have just kept his mouth shut till after the investigation was done. It now looks like he's the the Black man's back no matter what and for those who are bias this just makes it worse now.
Ignorant folks will start saying he only cares about "his people".

Obama himself realized he made a mistake so he has apologized which I can respect. He knows he was wrong.

Keylan, his charges being dropped by the police had nothing to do with what Obama said.
alright but if obama doesn't at least appear to care about people of color who will? imo he was right to step in to this matter as a person who cares and who this could affect as opposed to a 'good will charity case'.
That moment brought out the worst in both the police and Black Americans.

it would be scarier to think about where we'd be today if the riots hadn't happened.
 
alright but if obama doesn't at least appear to care about people of color who will?
I wonder if that's the reason why people voted for him? If it is then we have a problem.

imo he was right to step in to this matter as a person who cares and who this could affect as opposed to a 'good will charity case'.

That's what the NAACP is there for, right? You have Al Sharpton and Jackson.....oh my bad...

it would be scarier to think about where we'd be today if the riots hadn't happened.
Wow....all they did was destroy, loot and hurt those in there own neighborhoods.
I would relate that to a disgruntled lunatic dousing himself with gasoline, or an Emo cutting himself just to gain attention....who really gives a damn.
 
You know if they were really mad at the police they would have stormed the police precincts instead like they did here in the Bronx back in the 70's.
They even made a movie out of it, it's called Fort Apache starring Paul Newman.

I've seen my share of riots in the 70's....there was a shopping strip on Broadway in Brooklyn that the rioters looted, the owners were disgusted that there own neighbors would do this to them so they packed up and left.
Fast forward 30 years later it's still shut down.
Is that progress?
 
Wow....all they did was destroy, loot and hurt those in there own neighborhoods.
I would relate that to a disgruntled lunatic dousing himself with gasoline, or an Emo cutting himself just to gain attention....who really gives a damn.

maybe like a distant cousin. self inflicted wounds and suicide bombers are hardest on themselves. that's the last point they can make. the LA riots to me said "we will no longer stand down and take this abuse" that seems to be when 'the system' began to git with the times. a lot of companies in that area weren't luded.
 
maybe like a distant cousin. self inflicted wounds and suicide bombers are hardest on themselves. that's the last point they can make. the LA riots to me said "we will no longer stand down and take this abuse" that seems to be when 'the system' began to git with the times. a lot of companies in that area weren't luded.
The whole world looked at us like animals that day, all I learned was how humans take advantage of situations.
They looted because they were greedy, not because of injustice.
 
You know if they were really mad at the police they would have stormed the police precincts instead like they did here in the Bronx back in the 70's.
They even made a movie out of it, it's called Fort Apache starring Paul Newman.

I've seen my share of riots in the 70's....there was a shopping strip on Broadway in Brooklyn that the rioters looted, the owners were disgusted that there own neighbors would do this to them so they packed up and left.
Fast forward 30 years later it's still shut down.
Is that progress?

can't say yet. how good was the shopping strip?
 
can't say yet. how good was the shopping strip?
It used to be a nice shopping district but now it looks like crap, it doesn't make a difference how good it was.
Do you know what's really sad....some of the stores were owned by minorities.

Then people wonder....oh why can't they rebuild here?
 
The whole world looked at us like animals that day, all I learned was how humans take advantage of situations.
They looted because they were greedy, not because of injustice.

exactly. The rioting was sheer stupidity. mob mentality taking over to the benefit of no one. It shouldn't be confused with a peaceful rally or march that would have been tremendously more effective
 
The whole world looked at us like animals that day, all I learned was how humans take advantage of situations.
They looted because they were greedy, not because of injustice.
hmmm....sounds a lot like Katrina...New Orleans had a chance to shine...
 
seems to me shaq is more politically savvy than president obama.

On if he has an opinion about, of all things, the Henry Louis Gates arrest: "Not really, because I'm actually on both sides. You know, they teach you in ever law enforcement training that every law enforcement [official] goes through something different, so I don't really have an opinion on it. I have a deep respect for the president, I have a deep respect for law enforcement, so rule number one is mind your own business. I don't really know what goes on."
D.C. Sports Bog - Shaq Denied Entrance to White House
 
exactly. The rioting was sheer stupidity. mob mentality taking over to the benefit of no one. It shouldn't be confused with a peaceful rally or march that would have been tremendously more effective
it may have been stupid but it really only took one episode of barbaric retaliation to initiate change. how many marches and years did it take to get mlk day?? im NOT saying rioting is the answer to injustice. the LA riots happened after years of organized, state-sponsored, mistreatment of citizens.

The whole world looked at us like animals that day, all I learned was how humans take advantage of situations.
They looted because they were greedy, not because of injustice.

i don't believe for a second the majority of looters looted out of greed. at that time i wanted something to be done to rectify the travesty that occurred. you couldn't have asked for more evidence. had i been in LA then i was so angry i might have joined in. it could have easily been me those cops were beatin down like a slave.
 
I keep saying it's not easy being an officer.
Once you know what they have to deal with everyday you would realize it's not an easy job.Shaq walked in those shoes so he may have an idea, not officially but he has.
 
it may have been stupid but it really only took one episode of barbaric retaliation to initiate change. how many marches and years did it take to get mlk day?? im NOT saying rioting is the answer to injustice. the LA riots happened after years of organized, state-sponsored, mistreatment of citizens.



i don't believe for a second the majority of looters looted out of greed. at that time i wanted something to be done to rectify the travesty that occurred. you couldn't have asked for more evidence. had i been in LA then i was so angry i might have joined in. it could have easily been me those cops were beatin down like a slave.


If greed wasn't a factor they would have broken everything, not stolen it.
 
i don't believe for a second the majority of looters looted out of greed. at that time i wanted something to be done to rectify the travesty that occurred. you couldn't have asked for more evidence. had i been in LA then i was so angry i might have joined in. it could have easily been me those cops were beatin down like a slave.
Didn't you see the news that day?
Didn't you witness the after affects?
Did you not see the smiles on their faces when they ran out of the stores with sneakers?

Like I said before, a lot of the stores were minority owned.

Do you know who I have more respect for? This man.

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One man protesting.....one man against 4 tanks....one man against the system.

Not a mob against an innocent trucker...not a mob against an Asian fruit vendor..

The one man....a hero
The Mob....cowards.
 
seems to me shaq is more politically savvy than president obama.

On if he has an opinion about, of all things, the Henry Louis Gates arrest: "Not really, because I'm actually on both sides. You know, they teach you in ever law enforcement training that every law enforcement [official] goes through something different, so I don't really have an opinion on it. I have a deep respect for the president, I have a deep respect for law enforcement, so rule number one is mind your own business. I don't really know what goes on."
D.C. Sports Bog - Shaq Denied Entrance to White House

shaq is someone u can picture havin a beer with the prez.
 
it may have been stupid but it really only took one episode of barbaric retaliation to initiate change. how many marches and years did it take to get mlk day?? im NOT saying rioting is the answer to injustice. the LA riots happened after years of organized, state-sponsored, mistreatment of citizens.



i don't believe for a second the majority of looters looted out of greed. at that time i wanted something to be done to rectify the travesty that occurred. you couldn't have asked for more evidence. had i been in LA then i was so angry i might have joined in. it could have easily been me those cops were beatin down like a slave.

organized, state sponsored, mistreatment of citizens? that is total BS.

the majority of looters looted because they saw an opportunity to get away with breaking the law with little consequence. those looters where the worst kinds of citizens this country has known. those looters should have been shot on-site by the people they were robbing
 
organized, state sponsored, mistreatment of citizens? that is total BS.

the majority of looters looted because they saw an opportunity to get away with breaking the law with little consequence. those looters where the worst kinds of citizens this country has known. those looters should have been shot on-site by the people they were robbing
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Just to clear things up not all of the looters were Black, a lot were Hispanic.
I'm sure there would be some whites looting but that was not a day for a white guy to be in LA.
 
seems to me shaq is more politically savvy than president obama.

On if he has an opinion about, of all things, the Henry Louis Gates arrest: "Not really, because I'm actually on both sides. You know, they teach you in ever law enforcement training that every law enforcement [official] goes through something different, so I don't really have an opinion on it. I have a deep respect for the president, I have a deep respect for law enforcement, so rule number one is mind your own business. I don't really know what goes on."
D.C. Sports Bog - Shaq Denied Entrance to White House
Isn't he a Sheriff's Deputy?
 
Shaq as a law man, give me a break. Who does he think he's gonna be Wyatt Earp?

He can't even shoot FREE throws, so, now he thinks he can shoot a 38.
 
organized, state sponsored, mistreatment of citizens? that is total BS.

the majority of looters looted because they saw an opportunity to get away with breaking the law with little consequence. those looters where the worst kinds of citizens this country has known. those looters should have been shot on-site by the people they were robbing

i'd have to research the details of that time with a more objective mindframe before ceding. that beating didn't remind me of an anarchist rebelling against some intangible concept. it reminded me of the water hoses in the 60's. that's what was so disturbing. maybe it ended up being execrable vultures stripping the flesh of a paralyzed establishment but my first reaction to the riots was..."Good". i wasn't alone in feeling this way. it was the uniting of a social class as crude as it was. who besides the gov't owns tanks? who besides the police owns tasers. let's be clear. i'm not advising anyone to form militant groups or to disobey the law. what would make all those people think they could loot and get away with it? those riots imo were a warning and too many people were there to not pay attention.

now things are better than they were as more old foggies die off. i couldn't forsee a situation where that would happen again in the u.s. provided we continue in this direction. it's our job as a society to avoid these types of situations. it isn't easy to make changes and open our minds as we head into this faster paced era. we haven't gone so far forward that we can regress but bit by bit things can and will change.;)
 
If greed wasn't a factor they would have broken everything, not stolen it.

maybe making the best out of a bad situation. what does being obediant bring me? trifling isn't it?
 
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